HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

If anything HBG held onto Madge too long & it was Lee & Pascoe via Sheens that moved him on.

Cleary moved once he realised Nathan wouldn't come to the Tigers. Not sure HBG had much to do with that.

Pascoe...here is what I'll say about HBG. If you are the significant share holding financier....whatever they are....no company owner is "hands off". What kind of company would hand everything over to someone else & expect no say in it?

Pascoe was given enough rope to hang himself 10 times over. HBG allowed him to do that.
That's a good point in Pasco had enough rope to hang himself 10 times over, after what has transpired this week how do we know how much of the mediocrity was his and how much was from an overbearing boardroom at HBG.
It can't just be Pasco. Cleary no doubt left for Nathan I don't dispute that at all but even then the media were reporting he saw Wests Tigers as too hard an environment to work in with the boardroom garbage. Madge didn't stay too long. The board hamstrung him by telling him how hard he should be training the guys. Instead of walking like Richo did he compromised and accommodated them and we got nowhere fast. He leaves wins origin, takes the Kiwis they win, then first year at Brisbane they win the comp. Cleary 4 comps after leaving. These guys know how to win even with inferior squads they couldn't do anything with us. Multiple ceo's, board members and make up, coaches who achieved nothing here and went on to win comps elsewhere and players. None achieved anything close to success here. The one constant has been the owner(s) and their interference.
 
Just thinking whats the use of holding a rally if the person didn’t want to fight for his position , I wanted Richo to stay but he has just rolled over and left benji and the players to look after themselves, surely he could have stood up to them at least untill the nrl had looked at the situation
It's not just about Richardson he is just another victim who tried to make difference while walking away with the golden handshake - courtesy of our "owners". They knew his clauses and they forced his hand. Was never prepared to work with anything other than an independent board and as of this week we don't have one - with no guarantee that they intend to honour that recommendation any further.

This is about sustained and ongoing in -fighting within a governance structure that has no capacity to lead and in doing so continue to damage the club that it controls while expecting fans to continue supporting while having no voice
This didn't start with Richardson and it clearly has ended with him either
 
Known debenture holders include:
  • Peter DiMichiel (Chairman)
  • Dennis Burgess (Chairman, also a Director of Wests Tigers)
  • Kevin Hammond
  • Daniel Lane
  • Clare Burgess
  • Fiona Shand
  • Russell Smith
  • Brian Cook
  • Mick Liubinskas
  • Scott Beynon
  • Paul Marsh
  • Allan Fallah (Appointed recently)
  • Leo Epifania (Appointed recently)
  • Bob Cairns (Appointed recently)
  • Tony Raciti (Appointed recently)
Also add board members Montgomery & Tropiano (Lubinskas above plus the first 2 above) make up the 5 HBG appointees from the Debenture Holders.
 
Ahhh Nah. That’s the loose argument for not doing the obvious sensible thing and naming the NSW Cup team Wests Tigers.
Could you imagine Parramatta fans correcting each other saying “We aren’t Parramatta, we are the Parramatta Eels”? Bit silly right?

It’s a bit tiring that the Wests name has been demonised to the point that whenever it is uttered, it’s immediately seen as a Magpie reference, yet it’s part of the name of the bloody club.
 
Instead of protesting on the street, we should storm Wests leagues club and takeover the pokies room. Just sit in there and stop others from using the machines. That'll do HBG more financial damage than returning memberships

We could actually pool all our money together and play their pokies … see if we can bankrupt them ..
 
1. HBG sack Wests Tigers Board Chairman and 3 other independent board members stating lack of transparency
- Of course its agenda driven, of course there are ulterior motives, of course it’s bad timing and of course it was going to upset a lot of Wests Tigers fans, so of course it should not have happened.
- Besides what I have written above, is there any chance some other realistic concerns were at least some small part of the problem that led to the abrupt and destabilising decision ? It has been suggested that removing Wests Magpies as our NSW Cup feeder team and renaming them Wests Tigers was a non negotiable. Many will say that’s how it should be and too bad how sad for anyone who likes the Magpies connection and memory living on via the NSW Cup feeder team. That’s ok to think that way, but that’s not considering what it means to many Wests Tigers supporters who have any type of connection to the Maglies side of the merger. If it was effecting the results of Wests Tigers NRL team then sure change the name but, when this seasons 2 Grand Finalists don’t see the need for their feeder team to be named the same as their NRL team I fail to see how this is a major oroblem and surely a little bit of give and take could be applied and allow this to remain to help avoid conflict.
2. Richo announces he will hold off making a decision on whether or not he remains as Wests Tigers CEO and gives a deadline of Monday 8th December unless PVL and the NRL intervene and ensure an independent administration is put in place.
- Very few if any people are happy with the current HBG governance, I’m near certain most were satisfied and content with the previous board members who were thrown out such as Rick Wayde, Dave Gilbert, Julie Romero, Tony Andreacchio and I’m not sure what happened to John Dorahy along this journey ?
The point is there is very few if any who wanted these good people to be removed, they are the ones who agreed with and made the decision for the Independent review to go ahead.
So is the major problem the HBG, or is it those who are currently involved and making all the decisions on behalf of the HBG that are the problem ?
Yes there is now a long history of issues and problems arising from HBG decision making, but as I’ve just alluded to, that was being rectified by the previous good people involved before they were booted out.
Say those people were reinstated next week and were on board with the largely independent Wests Tigers board as they were in the first place.
It’s not beyond reality to believe the current trouble makers or dreamers within the HBG will not be booted out themselves, replaced with good decent people who will get it heading in the right direction like it was when the likes of Wayde, Gilbert, Romero Andeaacchio etc were leading the charge.
- PVL is not the type of person who bows down to anyone’s timelines or demands, very unrealistic to place them on him.
I have no doubt whatsoever PVL will get involved and enforce some changes once he is satisfied he has all the correct information.
- As I previously stated the timing of Richo departing is not good at all, but I’m convinced he’s not the saint that he has many believing he is and I’m glad Chammas pointed out a few home truths.
3. Moving forward we need 4 independents back on the Wests Tigers board ASAP whether that is the recently dismissed ones reinstated or others to come in. We need assurances that HBG do not go against decisions they make, however hugely important decisions such as changing the team name and colours of our feeder team is surely something that would need to be discussed at a higher level before any decision is agreed on or made. After all does this decision really effect many Wests Tigers supporters? I would estimate there would only be 10-15% of supporters who even care about our NSW Cup team let alone watch their games or know who plays in the team.
- Richo himself has given a glowing endorsement of Shaun Mielecamp so hopefully he can be the man to take us forward without too many disruptions. Would he have stayed himself if he thought the club was a lost cause ?
- The upcoming rally is a good thing as it will hopefully achieve major change within HBG and help an independent iWests Tigers board be reinstated at the very least. I understand many want much more than that, but you would hope the majority would at least accept that as a win for the cause and a step forward from where we are now.
 
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1. HBG sack Wests Tigers Board Chairman and 3 other independent board members stating lack of transparency
- Of course its agenda driven, of course there are ulterior motives, of course it’s bad timing and of course it was going to upset a lot of Wests Tigers fans, so of course it should not have happened.
- Besides what I have written above, is there any chance some realistic concerns were at least some small part of the problem that led to the abrupt and destabilising decision ? It has been suggested that removing Wests Magpies as our NSW Cup feeder team and renaming them Wests Tigers was a non negotiable. Many will say that’s how it should be and too bad how sad for anyone who likes the Magpies connection and memory living on via the NSW Cuo feeder team. That’s ok to think that way, but that’s not considering what it means to many Wests Tigers supporters who have any type of connection to the Maglies side of the merger. If it was effecting the results of Wests Tigers NRL team then sure change the name of the NSW Cup team to Wests Tigers, bit when this seasons 2 Grand Finalists don’t see the need for their feeder team to be named the same as their NRL team I fail to see how this is a major oroblem and surely a little bit of give and take could be applied and allow this overman to avoid conflict.
2. Richo announces he will hold off making a decision on whether or not he remains as Wests Tigers CEL and give a deadline of Monday 8th December unless PVL and the NRL intervene and ensure an independed administration is put in place.
- Very few if any people are happy with the current HBG governance, I’m near certain most were very happy and sided either the previous board members who were thrown out such as Rick Wayde, Dave Gilbert, Julie Romero and I’m not sure what happened to John Dorahy along this journey, but the point is there is very few if any who wanted these good people to be removed, they are the ones who agreed with and made the decision for the Independent review to go ahead.
So is the major problem the HBG, or is it those who are currently flu involved and making all the decisions on behalf of the HBG that are the problem ?
Yes there is now a long history of issues and problems arising from HBG decision making, but as I’ve just alluded to, that was being rectified by the previous good people involved before they were booted out.
Say those people were reinstated next week and were on board with the largely independent Wests Tigers board as they were in the first place.
It’s not beyond reality to believe the current trouble makers or dreamers within the HNG will not be booted on themselves, replaced with good decent people who will get it heading in the right direction like it was when the likes of Wayde, Gilbert, Romero etc were leading the charge.
- PVL is not the type of person who bows down to anyone’s timelines or demands, very unrealistic to place them on him.
I have no doubt whatsoever PVL will get involved and enforces sone changes once he is satisfied he has all the correct information.
- As I previously stated the timing of Richo departing is not good at all, but I’m convinced he’s not the saint that he has many believing he is and I’m glad Chammas pointed out a few home truths about him.
3. Moving forwarded we need 4 independents back on the Wests Tigers board ASAP whether that is the recently dismissed ones reinstated or others to come in. We need re-assurances that HBG do not go against decisions they make, however hugely important decisions such as changing the team name and colours of our feeder team is surely something that would need to be discussed at a higher level before any decision is agreed on or made. After all does this decision really effect many Wests Tigers supporters? I would estimate there would only be 10-15% of supporters who even care about our NSW Cup team let alone watch their games or know who plays in the team.
- Richo himself has given a glowing endorsement of Shaun Mielecamp so hopefully he can be the man to take us forward without too many disruptions. Would he have stayed himself if he thought the club was a lost cause ?
- The upcoming rally is a good thing as it will hopefully achieve major change within HBG and help bring all the independent board members back on the Wests Tigers board at the very least. I understand many want much more than that, but you would hold the majority would at least accept that as a win for the cause and a step back in the right direction.
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Instead of protesting on the street, we should storm Wests leagues club and takeover the pokies room. Just sit in there and stop others from using the machines. That'll do HBG more financial damage than returning memberships
Tipping boredom would set in and we’d do our dough.
 
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