HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

hammertime said:
I will bet you $100 that HDB won't revert to the prior independent structure, without serious pressure from fans, regulators, and the NRL.

Happy to be proven wrong
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It's very possible.

But we don't know for sure.

It should have been a question asked, demanded...by people in positions to get answers.

We are happy for people to talk about the club falling apart, insiders giving this & that info etc.

Who asked HBG- now what do you plan to do about the independent board spots?

A rally has been organised.

But HBG could have been on the spot the next day if the right questions were asked.
 
The Chad said:
That was implemented after PVL sat with all the interested parties, yeah?

I can believe that HBG wanted more control. The NRL just gave it to them.

That said- is the board breakdown accurate?

5 x HBG
3 x Independent
1 x Balmain

Where is Wests? Leo Epiphiana (or however it's spelt) was the Wests board member, but isn't actually HBG is he? If he is HBG, do Wests lose a seat in the mix?
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Seeing as we are answering questions with questions, who is the majority shareholder of Wests Magpies?

Once you work that out, then let's talk.
 
mtd#2 said:
The march alone won't change much.. but if it becomes an ongoing persistent news piece.. that's a completely different story..

As I've suggested on another thread (which I saw someone post on WT insta page before it was deleted)... If everyone in round 2 vs cowboys turned their back on the game in the 5th minute (to represent the 4 sacked directors + Richo), do you think that doesn't make commentary? Or make NRL 360 on Monday? The bye round podcast? Sen league? Triple M NRL...

If everyone then did it in every game following, it'll stay relevant..

The media has been the Wests tigers fans enemy for so long... It's been tough. But we are in a position to weaponise them against the HBG and apply the blow torch.. it may never work.. but it also may just have the desired impact over time...

Who knows if you don't try right?
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We are looking at action around that game if needed.
 
hammertime said:
I'd say it's in the HBG number. Effectively same thing.
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It would appear so. Or an oversight by whoever reported it.

That said- I imagine not EVERY Wests Magpies board member is simply a HBG yes man/woman.

People might not get a vote on the HBG representation.

I bet they get a vote on Magpies representation though.
 
The Chad said:
That was implemented after PVL sat with all the interested parties, yeah?

I can believe that HBG wanted more control. The NRL just gave it to them.

That said- is the board breakdown accurate?

5 x HBG
3 x Independent
1 x Balmain

Where is Wests? Leo Epiphiana (or however it's spelt) was the Wests board member, but isn't actually HBG is he? If he is HBG, do Wests lose a seat in the mix?
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1 of the 5 will likely be a Wests Magpies Rep. It's just semantics though as the HBG control the Wests Magpies as well.
 
The Chad said:
Not a lot of evidence anywhere in these arguments.
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I blame HBG for this.

We as fans are only bystanders. Yet this club is something we care about deeply.

We have no say, the board was fired. We are not given the real reasons, so we have to guess.

Wests Tigers is something we deeply love. Heck I too believe all people involved in this love the club (with bad motives, but still love the club). It hurts to have something we love wrecked like this and that's why we are trying to find the reason.
 
The Chad said:
It's very possible.

But we don't know for sure.

It should have been a question asked, demanded...by people in positions to get answers.

We are happy for people to talk about the club falling apart, insiders giving this & that info etc.

Who asked HBG- now what do you plan to do about the independent board spots?

A rally has been organised.

But HBG could have been on the spot the next day if the right questions were asked.
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The HBG is a dysfunctional mess, that is constantly backstabbing, why would anyone trust an answer they provide?
 
The Chad said:
It would appear so. Or an oversight by whoever reported it.

That said- I imagine not EVERY Wests Magpies board member is simply a HBG yes man/woman.

People might not get a vote on the HBG representation.

I bet they get a vote on Magpies representation though.
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The HBG have 4 seats on the Wests Magpies board with 3 being voted on by the Wests Magpies footy members.
 
The Chad said:
It's very possible.

But we don't know for sure.

It should have been a question asked, demanded...by people in positions to get answers.

We are happy for people to talk about the club falling apart, insiders giving this & that info etc.

Who asked HBG- now what do you plan to do about the independent board spots?

A rally has been organised.

But HBG could have been on the spot the next day if the right questions were asked.
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If a car is about to run over my kid, I don’t wait till he’s a pancake.
 
The Chad said:
It would appear so. Or an oversight by whoever reported it.

That said- I imagine not EVERY Wests Magpies board member is simply a HBG yes man/woman.

People might not get a vote on the HBG representation.

I bet they get a vote on Magpies representation though.
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It's all on their website. Here it is verbatim.

WSDRLFC (Western Suburbs District Rugby League Football Club Ltd)

WSDRLFC has 7 members on its board of directors.
- 4 x Directors appointed by Holman Barnes Group
- 3 x Directors directly elected in 3 year terms by eligible Wests Magpies FC members

Leo was appointed...

There are also 2 member elected positions on the HBG board. Ask cochise what happened to those guys.
 
cochise said:
1 of the 5 will likely be a Wests Magpies Rep. It's just semantics though as the HBG control the Wests Magpies as well.
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What is the breakdown of the Magpies board though?

Is it possible that an 'independent' Magpies board member takes the spot?

I'm not stupid enough to think the board isn't loaded. But maybe that is the compromise from PVL?

4 x HBG
1 x Wests (not HBG aligned)
1 x Balmain
3 x Independent

It's still a majority government, but to get the majority isn't as simple. Or is there still a chance a 4th independent comes in?
 
weststigers said:
You and Chad continue to question the opinions of people calling for HBG power to go.

You talk about us not being close enough to it. OK...let's explore that for a second.

What do you say to the independent company that conducted the independent review last year and made the exact recommendations people are calling for now?

They were there. They know more than us. They interviewed everyone on all sides. Probably investigated more than PVL did yesterday I'd say. What do you say to that?
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I say they had very good information to reach their outcome at that time.
I find it hard tj believe they would have more information than what PVL has in regards to this current situation ?
I could be wrong, but that’s how I’m seeing it right now.
 
BAGNF05 said:
If a car is about to run over my kid, I don’t wait till he’s a pancake.
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Agreed.

So why wasn't the intentions put to hard questioning from day 1?

Who pressured the media, the club, the CEO (at the time) for the board plans going forward?
 
The Chad said:
What is the breakdown of the Magpies board though?

Is it possible that an 'independent' Magpies board member takes the spot?

I'm not stupid enough to think the board isn't loaded. But maybe that is the compromise from PVL?

4 x HBG
1 x Wests (not HBG aligned)
1 x Balmain
3 x Independent

It's still a majority government, but to get the majority isn't as simple. Or is there still a chance a 4th independent comes in?
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Mate, it simply isn't good enough after the findings of the review.
 
BAGNF05 said:
I respect the tone on your message.

Those that oppose HBG don’t trust them. They could flick Benji and pay him out in 6 months.
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Based on PVL’s statement they will be walking on eggshells and if they make any future decisions that bring Wests Tigers into any more disrepute, they will highly likely be stripped of the licence.
 
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