HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

weststigers said:
If we take a step back, it is very strange a bunch of people, who were publicly and unceremoniously dismissed and had their character smeared on the way out, would return 10 days later.

The devil is in the detail.

My guess is this.

V'Landys didn't want to create a media storm by appointing an administrator. He made the agreement that O'Farrell and the other independents would be reporting directly to the NRL as a watchdog of sorts. This gave the independents enough confidence to return and gave HBG what they ultimately wanted which is board control.

I believe that, the NRL believes, it's a good solution, but it's not going to stop bad decisions being made.

Time will show their incompetence.
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Do you think the three Independent Directors …just reinstated after a firestorm that had the potential to do damage to their careers …. Have decided to go back for potentially more of the same ? I don’t see why they would bother to be someone else’s sock puppet….who cares who they report to if they are outvoted every time … There has to be more to the story ..
 
GNR4LIFE said:
Roy Masters? The writer did mention coaching the Magpies. Couldn’t be anyone else.
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More aligned to Melbourne than Wests these days - personally i though the article was more about an explanation of how we are where we are now for those who don't spend their life on football forums ramming their agendas down everyones throats.
 
mikey said:
Epifania -
“The only contention that regularly arises is the fact Wests Magpies have never been respected in the joint venture and always tainted as the bad guys. An opportunity to discuss a fairer representation would go a long way in ending 25 years of war.”

Shows the paranoia of some. How much more opportunity than controlling the club does HBG need.
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Short memories.

Wests Macarthur pulled out of the joint venture because Balmain & Wests Ashfield were voting as a block to ensure operations were focused on the inner west.

This same recognition of a Leichhardt history has got the CEO sacked.

Focus on the south west? Have had 25 years to do that and the first to try and build those connections was Richo.

Wests Ashfield screwed that up when they ran the Magpies for 10+ years before the merger. Absolutely hilarious to try and hear them now use that community as the basis for recent decisions
 
innsaneink said:
Laughable...sounds like silly old mate here

Blazers and debentures is their only care
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Unfortunately it's worse than that, it's a victim's mentality.

He still believes Wests Magpies doesn't have a fair representation, despite majority ownership and calling the shorts, plus taking over the NSW Cup team.

And then he says "25 years of war"... really, he thinks Magpies and Balmain have always been at war and still are? Including since Balmain was bought out 11 years ago and their clubs subsumed into Wests Ashfield?

Part of me wonders if this is still all about the Tiger brand, that some old folks just can't handle that both clubs agreed the Tiger was more marketable mascot. And you could call it the Western Suburbs Lidcombe Campbelltown Tommy Raudonikis Dallas Donnelly Magpie Black & White Tigers, but they'd still rankle at having Tigers tacked on.
 
jirskyr said:
And then he says "25 years of war"... really, he thinks Magpies and Balmain have always been at war and still are? Including since Balmain was bought out 11 years ago and their clubs subsumed into Wests Ashfield?
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This is the greatest myth now around the club…it’s an enabler for the continuation of this disruption coming from HBG that keeps the club at the bottom of the ladder ..

Have Balmain said anything this year ?
 
innsaneink said:
This is what PVL said yesterday.

Full article posted by @BlackWhiteGold on page 307 and 308
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V’landys said he had to intervene to protect the NRL and Wests Tigers brands.

“A licence is a privilege, a licence to be in the NRL is worth a lot of money,” V’landys said on Thursday. “Naturally, we have our rights under the licence, and we will use those rights if we have to.

“In this case, we didn’t have to because they were professional enough to reach an amicable solution. We appreciate their professionalism in that regard. They gave us an undertaking they won’t dilute the Balmain brand, they are putting the independents back on with Barry as chair.

“It’s the best solution to give the fans confidence before Christmas. And, more importantly, for Benji Marshall and the team. We won’t allow any dilution. If they ever try, it won’t happen. Balmain fans can rest easy it will never happen.”

V’landys felt the reinstatement of the independent directors, particularly O’Farrell, would provide
the club with much-needed stability.
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Balmain fans might be able to rest easy but what about Wests Tigers fans Peter?
 
cochise said:
Honestly, I think PVL thought this would appease the fans. That this would be enough to stop the Rally.

It's not enough though and I for one will be there supporting the Wests Tigers this weekend.
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Hey mate, has the new board make up 5 HBG 1 BAL 3 INDY been confirmed outside of Chammas? He’s not correct as often as he thinks he is.
I think the rally should go ahead. Nothing is set in stone so in practise nothing has changed.
 
mikey said:
Epifania -
“The only contention that regularly arises is the fact Wests Magpies have never been respected in the joint venture and always tainted as the bad guys. An opportunity to discuss a fairer representation would go a long way in ending 25 years of war.”

Shows the paranoia of some. How much more opportunity than controlling the club does HBG need.
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Surely the only increase in representation possible is 100% ownership and removal of Balmain Tigers? They are only 1 step short of that right now with 90% ownership, Balmain granted a token seat, Wests Ashfield taking on all old Balmain assets and Magpies in the NSW Cup.

Only thing left would be to excise the Tiger.

So really this does show that at least some of HBG do dream of returning Magpies in full, because they keep talking about it, how it's not yet fair.
 
liltiger said:
Masters really asking the tough questions that need answering. More like playing cover for mates. Absolute joke.
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It's the worst thing he's written. Just blind to the dysfunction in that joint. Even the title is absurd. Strongman.... People are forgetting the incredible things that Richo has accomplished. HBG don't care about winning. Winning actually feels good and can bring people together instead of harking back to the 70s to teams that never won damn thing.
 
jirskyr said:
Unfortunately it's worse than that, it's a victim's mentality.

He still believes Wests Magpies doesn't have a fair representation, despite majority ownership and calling the shorts, plus taking over the NSW Cup team.

And then he says "25 years of war"... really, he thinks Magpies and Balmain have always been at war and still are? Including since Balmain was bought out 11 years ago and their clubs subsumed into Wests Ashfield?

Part of me wonders if this is still all about the Tiger brand, that some old folks just can't handle that both clubs agreed the Tiger was more marketable mascot. And you could call it the Western Suburbs Lidcombe Campbelltown Tommy Raudonikis Dallas Donnelly Magpie Black & White Tigers, but they'd still rankle at having Tigers tacked on.
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I think his complaint is in regards to the perception of the club. In their minds, to the general RL public, Wests Tigers are an extension of Balmain. That’s what the old Magpies fans are still bent out of shape about. They know the Magpies are in charge, but it irks them they get no recognition. That’s the crux of their issue.
 
jirskyr said:
Surely the only increase in representation possible is 100% ownership and removal of Balmain Tigers? They are only 1 step short of that right now with 90% ownership, Balmain granted a token seat, Wests Ashfield taking on all old Balmain assets and Magpies in the NSW Cup.

Only thing left would be to excise the Tiger.

So really this does show that at least some of HBG do dream of returning Magpies in full, because they keep talking about it, how it's not yet fair.
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Look, the issue isn't with ownership outright. The issue is that the ownership are moronic. Winning is not on their radar. It's entirely possible to have a board that just let the footy people do their thing.
 
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innsaneink said:
This is what PVL said yesterday.

Full article posted by @BlackWhiteGold on page 307 and 308
Post #6142

V’landys said he had to intervene to protect the NRL and Wests Tigers brands.

“A licence is a privilege, a licence to be in the NRL is worth a lot of money,” V’landys said on Thursday. “Naturally, we have our rights under the licence, and we will use those rights if we have to.

“In this case, we didn’t have to because they were professional enough to reach an amicable solution. We appreciate their professionalism in that regard. They gave us an undertaking they won’t dilute the Balmain brand, they are putting the independents back on with Barry as chair.

“It’s the best solution to give the fans confidence before Christmas. And, more importantly, for Benji Marshall and the team. We won’t allow any dilution. If they ever try, it won’t happen. Balmain fans can rest easy it will never happen.”

V’landys felt the reinstatement of the independent directors, particularly O’Farrell, would provide
the club with much-needed stability.
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Fair enough, my mistake and apologies to @Vicious for thinking he was making this up.

Glad that V'landys has stated this, but I'm over this obsession with Balmain during this period of turmoil, this should all be about Wests Tigers.

Stuff Balmain, they have been part of the problems we have been having for years, and that's coming from someone that goes back a long way as a Balmain supporter.
 
GNR4LIFE said:
I think his complaint is in regards to the perception of the club. In their minds, to the general RL public, Wests Tigers are an extension of Balmain. That’s what the old Magpies fans are still bent out of shape about. They know the Magpies are in charge, but it irks them they get no recognition. That’s the crux of their issue.
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Possibly … but it’s an argument that doesn’t stand up to a lot of scrutiny , as any fan of the club under late 30s would be too young to really recall the parents of the JV ..so it’s all irrelevant for them ? What do they make of all this ? What other sporting team anywhere has to contend with this ?

I dont know what further recognition would have satisfied the old Magpies fans… and who should it have come from ? The Balmain Fans? The Media? The team? What could they have said or done to change things ?
 
FP, What I don’t understand is why do Wests Magpies feel that they weren’t strongly represented on the Wests Tigers board?
Did they not have more numbers than Balmain?
But that’s not enough is it? It’s those scoundrel independents who need to see things through black & white glasses.
 
mtd#2 said:
No, I'm not missing the point.

We can go over the HBG issues till we are blue in the face... but we all know that HBG can't be anywhere near the club, there is no world in which they give this a red hot go with the best interest of the JV in mind... that ship sailed when they sacked the independent directors. You should give up any line of thought that includes HBG doing the right thing...

In otherwords, we need them gone... That we need to work on collectively as a unit over the next few years.

What I am trying to do is focus on the upside that we still have Shaun and Benji leading the charge from the football club... And that's the best possible outcome at this point in time given what has transpired over the last week. It gives us SOME hope for a competitive season in 2026.

#HBGout
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Sounds a bit divisive and don't you think?
 
Tom Shines said:
Possibly … but it’s an argument that doesn’t stand up to a lot of scrutiny , as any fan of the club under late 30s would be too young to really recall the parents of the JV ..so it’s all irrelevant for them ? What do they make of all this ? What other sporting team anywhere has to contend with this ?

I dont know what further recognition would have satisfied the old Magpies fans… and who should it have come from ? The Balmain Fans? The Media? The team? What could they have said or done to change things ?
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You trying to find logic in this is like trying to teach logic to a monkey, telling them they cannot drive a car.
 
GNR4LIFE said:
You trying to find logic in this is like trying to teach logic to a monkey, telling them they cannot drive a car.
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My theory is that 26 years later …a lot of people still can’t build a bridge and get over it …even though it was put to a vote at the time…and it wouldn’t have mattered what happened since , short of their team coming back into the comp…
 
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