HBG, Independent Directors Sacked

Surely the only increase in representation possible is 100% ownership and removal of Balmain Tigers? They are only 1 step short of that right now with 90% ownership, Balmain granted a token seat, Wests Ashfield taking on all old Balmain assets and Magpies in the NSW Cup.

Only thing left would be to excise the Tiger.

So really this does show that at least some of HBG do dream of returning Magpies in full, because they keep talking about it, how it's not yet fair.

Look, the issue isn't with ownership outright. The issue is that the ownership are moronic. Winning is not on their radar. It's entirely possible to have a board that just let the footy people do their thing.
 
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This is what PVL said yesterday.

Full article posted by @BlackWhiteGold on page 307 and 308
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V’landys said he had to intervene to protect the NRL and Wests Tigers brands.

“A licence is a privilege, a licence to be in the NRL is worth a lot of money,” V’landys said on Thursday. “Naturally, we have our rights under the licence, and we will use those rights if we have to.

“In this case, we didn’t have to because they were professional enough to reach an amicable solution. We appreciate their professionalism in that regard. They gave us an undertaking they won’t dilute the Balmain brand, they are putting the independents back on with Barry as chair.

“It’s the best solution to give the fans confidence before Christmas. And, more importantly, for Benji Marshall and the team. We won’t allow any dilution. If they ever try, it won’t happen. Balmain fans can rest easy it will never happen.”

V’landys felt the reinstatement of the independent directors, particularly O’Farrell, would provide
the club with much-needed stability.
Fair enough, my mistake and apologies to @Vicious for thinking he was making this up.

Glad that V'landys has stated this, but I'm over this obsession with Balmain during this period of turmoil, this should all be about Wests Tigers.

Stuff Balmain, they have been part of the problems we have been having for years, and that's coming from someone that goes back a long way as a Balmain supporter.
 
I think his complaint is in regards to the perception of the club. In their minds, to the general RL public, Wests Tigers are an extension of Balmain. That’s what the old Magpies fans are still bent out of shape about. They know the Magpies are in charge, but it irks them they get no recognition. That’s the crux of their issue.

Possibly … but it’s an argument that doesn’t stand up to a lot of scrutiny , as any fan of the club under late 30s would be too young to really recall the parents of the JV ..so it’s all irrelevant for them ? What do they make of all this ? What other sporting team anywhere has to contend with this ?

I dont know what further recognition would have satisfied the old Magpies fans… and who should it have come from ? The Balmain Fans? The Media? The team? What could they have said or done to change things ?
 
FP, What I don’t understand is why do Wests Magpies feel that they weren’t strongly represented on the Wests Tigers board?
Did they not have more numbers than Balmain?
But that’s not enough is it? It’s those scoundrel independents who need to see things through black & white glasses.
 
No, I'm not missing the point.

We can go over the HBG issues till we are blue in the face... but we all know that HBG can't be anywhere near the club, there is no world in which they give this a red hot go with the best interest of the JV in mind... that ship sailed when they sacked the independent directors. You should give up any line of thought that includes HBG doing the right thing...

In otherwords, we need them gone... That we need to work on collectively as a unit over the next few years.

What I am trying to do is focus on the upside that we still have Shaun and Benji leading the charge from the football club... And that's the best possible outcome at this point in time given what has transpired over the last week. It gives us SOME hope for a competitive season in 2026.

#HBGout

Sounds a bit divisive and don't you think?
 
Possibly … but it’s an argument that doesn’t stand up to a lot of scrutiny , as any fan of the club under late 30s would be too young to really recall the parents of the JV ..so it’s all irrelevant for them ? What do they make of all this ? What other sporting team anywhere has to contend with this ?

I dont know what further recognition would have satisfied the old Magpies fans… and who should it have come from ? The Balmain Fans? The Media? The team? What could they have said or done to change things ?
You trying to find logic in this is like trying to teach logic to a monkey, telling them they cannot drive a car.
 
You trying to find logic in this is like trying to teach logic to a monkey, telling them they cannot drive a car.

My theory is that 26 years later …a lot of people still can’t build a bridge and get over it …even though it was put to a vote at the time…and it wouldn’t have mattered what happened since , short of their team coming back into the comp…
 
Possibly … but it’s an argument that doesn’t stand up to a lot of scrutiny , as any fan of the club under late 30s would be too young to really recall the parents of the JV ..so it’s all irrelevant for them ? What do they make of all this ? What other sporting team anywhere has to contend with this ?

I dont know what further recognition would have satisfied the old Magpies fans… and who should it have come from ? The Balmain Fans? The Media? The team? What could they have said or done to change things ?

Nothing. Look at how deluded the chairman of HBG is... Lives in fantasy land.

 
PVL was pleased the HBG acted professionally and were willing to accept the independent directors back. What a load of spin. Of course HBG were happy with the outcome, they now have control, they still have the debenture system and they rolled Richo who they saw as a danger.

What did the members and fans get, absolutely nothing, same old same old inept HBG controlling the clubs fate. All PVL did was to try and create a veneer that the club is now back on track.
 
Look, the issue isn't with ownership outright. The issue is that the ownership are moronic. Winning is not on their radar. It's entirely possible to have a board that just let the footy people do their thing.
Spot on Laundy owning us would be win , a big win as they are able to do thing in multiples , they are use to handling big money and it’s their money so they are not dumb , we would be very competitive in the market and field , this would be a great outcome if HBG sold up to them
 
FP, What I don’t understand is why do Wests Magpies feel that they weren’t strongly represented on the Wests Tigers board?
Did they not have more numbers than Balmain?
But that’s not enough is it? It’s those scoundrel independents who need to see things through black & white glasses.
No one can answer this question.

The logical action would have been to sack their own representives who were unanimously voting in favour of decisions and not passing back the information to HBG.. not sacking the independents - who aren't responsible for feeding back everything to HBG.
 
PVL was pleased the HBG acted professionally and were willing to accept the independent directors back. What a load of spin. Of course HBG were happy with the outcome, they now have control, they still have the debenture system and they rolled Richo who they saw as a danger.

What did the members and fans get, absolutely nothing, same old same old inept HBG controlling the clubs fate. All PVL did was to try and create a veneer that the club is now back on track.
I'm not sure it's over mate.

There seems to be alot of people putting HBG on the radar of ASIC... Whether they have something to hide or not, the last thing anyone needs is an audit.

And it makes me wonder what specifically PVL had up his sleeve to force their hand... You don't just reinstate 4 sacked board members because PVL asked nicely...
 
PVL was pleased the HBG acted professionally and were willing to accept the independent directors back. What a load of spin. Of course HBG were happy with the outcome, they now have control, they still have the debenture system and they rolled Richo who they saw as a danger.

What did the members and fans get, absolutely nothing, same old same old inept HBG controlling the clubs fate. All PVL did was to try and create a veneer that the club is now back on track.
Exactly! We’ve heard this before many times. It’s really tragic that the club has burnt so many good people in the process, including admin staff, coaching and players. A trail of destruction.
 
Possibly … but it’s an argument that doesn’t stand up to a lot of scrutiny , as any fan of the club under late 30s would be too young to really recall the parents of the JV ..so it’s all irrelevant for them ? What do they make of all this ? What other sporting team anywhere has to contend with this ?

I dont know what further recognition would have satisfied the old Magpies fans… and who should it have come from ? The Balmain Fans? The Media? The team? What could they have said or done to change things ?
Problem is the team is branded the Tigers, so they're fighting a losing battle. No one is paying attention to their Magpie heritage.
 
I'm not sure it's over mate.

There seems to be alot of people putting HBG on the radar of ASIC... Whether they have something to hide or not, the last thing anyone needs is an audit.

And it makes me wonder what specifically PVL had up his sleeve to force their hand... You don't just reinstate 4 sacked board members because PVL asked nicely...
Apparently he was threatening to install an administrator, I'm assuming he didn't think the HBG excuse held water.
 
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