HBG, Independent Directors Sacked
- Thread starter BlackWhiteGold
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Would you put your money in and then be willing to have no say in anything ?
It doesn't make HBG special though; there are others who would happily take over the lisence and do exactly the same.
pawsandclaws1
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If I was only putting in $1.4m into the club and the NRL was putting in $18m, I would ask how high do you want me to jump. HBG are on a good gig but I believe a change is now required.
You are 100% correct and it would be naive to think so
The issue we have is that "the say" appears to be all focused on what's best for the Magpies and not the JV...
Can you understand why that's an issue for alot of us?
hammertime
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1. They aren't "pouring" money into the club if it's making a profit, and it should be the members' voices they are representing, not their own.
2. No one is asking HBG to be quiet, they still need to sign things off and have representation. The Crawford Barnier Report was a good structure. But they were just absolutely mental how they blew us up a few weeks ago.
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weststigers
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They didn't put any money in. Not one of those guys has any financial stake in the club.
They are a non-profit licensed club owned by members.
Why do you persist with this narrative?
If they were privately owned, ala Russell Crowe and Souths, I'd be the first to agree with you.
This is not ownership. This is a protection racket on power and control.
hammertime
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It's HBG members money. The members are providing their voices now. The directors are not acting in their interest
cochise
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They just sacked a board that turned a profit reducing what they need to 'pour' in
We pay membership, we buy merchandise, purchase subscriptions. HBG have had their chances, they represent the interests of a small minority of fans and proven time and time again that they’re just not up to the task of running a successful NRL team.
That’s a separate issue.
My previous comment was purely stating that nobody is going to pour money into a club and have no say.
The fans such as in this case may be unhappy about decisions they are making, but it does not change the fact they are going to have input into decisions when they are putting their money in.
What happenss if Arthur Laundy buys the club and the fans are not happy with decisions he is making ?
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weststigers
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A private owner wants to make a profit. It hurts them directly if they don't.
HBG is a non-profit with no financial stakeholders. They don't care.
I totally understand why fans are making such a big deal about it, but some of the concerns that continue to be raised such as an ongoing plan to rebrand the NRL team as Wests Magpies is ridiculous and has already been shut down by PVL.
The major concern was in independent board members being removed, they have now been reinstated.
Now there is a concern that the balance of power will be with HBG, we don’t even know the full list of the 9 Wests Tigers board members yet and we do not know if BOF and the independent board members will have a large say or not. As I keep saying it makes no sense for them to agree to come back if he will not have a large say in the decision making.
Then we have Shaun Mielenkamp as our interim CEO. He is a breath of fresh air and he communication has so far been outstanding, surely we give him a chance to prove he is the man to lead the club to an upward spiral.
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When you say HBG don’t care about Wests Tigers making profit, do you know this or are you assuming this ?
liltiger
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Of the money being put in HBG only put in about less than 10% of the money annually. If HBG put in 1.2 million a year and the N.R.L throw in 13.5 million a year then the N.R.L would be over 90% owners like H.B.G keep saying and could do as they wish as majority owner. Other thing is in the big scheme of things HBG and all other owners throughout our history have left us massively underfunded. There are clubs who spend more than 1.2 million just in their scouting and youth systems.
Probably part of the reason why they should be extremely happy we now have a great operator in Shaun Mielenkamp running things.
Early days I know, but so far there is no indication that Shaun Mielenkamp is being restricted in any way.
cochise
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No point reinstating them if HBG has the majority, that is the issue fans have.
Only 1 independent board member has been returned.
Rock Hopper Steve
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This is my point that I've been trying to get across, for this club to be great we need more investment, a much wealthier owner or we will keep languishing at the bottom of the table for who knows how much longer.
If HBG really cared they would recognise this and allow more investment in, but they won't, shit scared of dilution.
I don't know how you can suggest its ridiculous when:
- Lee H is on the public record saying that directors at HBG have communicated their plan to him
- Magpies director starting a "magpies" chant at Campbelltown
Just because PVL shut it down doesn't mean that the directors don't think it.
So stop dismissing this like it's nothing.. it's something!!
THe HBG didn't reinstate the directors on their own because they saw the light, they did it because PVL scared them.
Don't confuse twist this action into being good leadership by HBG. If they had it there way, the independent directors wouldn't be reinstated.
Whats your point here?
Are you saying that we should have no idnependent directors if HBG hold the majority?
How is BOF any different to anyone else that might take on the role?
Richo was a breath of fresh air...
He proved with results that the club was on an upward spiral - but you continue to drag his name through the mud.
If 2026 is a good season I am sure you will spin it as all SM, when really , the upward spiral all started because of Richo...
Have all the board members been named ?
Has there yet been any reason to believe that a reinstated chairman is not being heard or is not agreeable to any decisions being made ?
We are predicting a car crash before it happens, rather than hoping the car crash never eventuates.
