OFFICIAL Jarome Luai - #295

jirskyr said:
I find this quite naive on two fronts.

Last point first - I am convinced that a PNG NRL team will help improve their community. There's so much positive flow-on if a population can rally around a single identity or goal, then there's also the potential investment associated with the sporting side. Govts all over the world want big, successful sporting teams in their jurisdiction because it contributes to the economy.

Luai is an immediate example - I believe his shirt sponsor for Tigers is Exclusive Estate Agents. He signs with PNG and he gets Pepsi. Chalk and cheese.

On the first point, 60M a year does bugger-all for our armed forces. For example just one F35 is 150M to purchase and we have 72 of them in the RAAF. A single E-7A Wedgetail is 570M. A P-8A Poseidon is 300M. That doesn't even cost operating costs, pilot training etc.

It's also bugger-all for our Pacific investment - 3.75B per year spent on Pacific region assistance.

60M to keep PNG on-side and China out is pennies.
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While $600m is peanuts when it comes to upgrading, building, or purchasing modern, battlefield-ready hardware and systems, what that $600m can do over that time is train and strengthen our current personnel, as well as attract new recruits, in what is a new, modern age of warfare due to drones.

Our current armed forces (land, air and sea) number just over 90,000. China’s number over 2,000,000 and growing. Look at Ukraine and how it has used technology to stave off Russia.

The Chiefs’ Club will not protect our borders, nor will it change the influence and debt that China has plunged PNG into. Sure, it’s a feel good story, but that’s all it is, a politically brokered story by the Labor government.

Edit: PNG have around 4000 active armed forces.

www.abc.net.au

'Significant change to the relationship': PNG seeks $11.8b debt refinance from China

In a move experts say could give Beijing even greater influence over Australia's nearest neighbour, Papua New Guinea's Prime Minister James Marape reaches out to China to help refinance its $11.8 billion national debt.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
 
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jirskyr said:
I find this quite naive on two fronts.

Last point first - I am convinced that a PNG NRL team will help improve their community. There's so much positive flow-on if a population can rally around a single identity or goal, then there's also the potential investment associated with the sporting side. Govts all over the world want big, successful sporting teams in their jurisdiction because it contributes to the economy.

Luai is an immediate example - I believe his shirt sponsor for Tigers is Exclusive Estate Agents. He signs with PNG and he gets Pepsi. Chalk and cheese.

On the first point, 60M a year does bugger-all for our armed forces. For example just one F35 is 150M to purchase and we have 72 of them in the RAAF. A single E-7A Wedgetail is 570M. A P-8A Poseidon is 300M. That doesn't even cost operating costs, pilot training etc.

It's also bugger-all for our Pacific investment - 3.75B per year spent on Pacific region assistance.

60M to keep PNG on-side and China out is pennies.
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But thats the thing, were spending the money in an effort in soft diplomacy to keep P.N.G onside and China out. But as it stands it just looks like P.N.G are just playing footsies with both sides. Theyre buddying up to us and embraced the new franchise and all the tax dollars we send. At the same time theyve allowed some of Chinas biggest firms that are really just fronts for the ccp. Giving them carte blanche in P.N.G.
 
liltiger said:
But thats the thing, were spending the money in an effort in soft diplomacy to keep P.N.G onside and China out. But as it stands it just looks like P.N.G are just playing footsies with both sides. Theyre buddying up to us and embraced the new franchise and all the tax dollars we send. At the same time theyve allowed some of Chinas biggest firms that are really just fronts for the ccp. Giving them carte blanche in P.N.G.
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In the end, I don’t have a problem with a PNG side. However, I do have a problem with the tax free incentive and us footing the bill.

This tax free clause will affect a lot of teams. It’s already affected ours, with Luai jumping ship.
 
jirskyr said:
I find this quite naive on two fronts.

Last point first - I am convinced that a PNG NRL team will help improve their community. There's so much positive flow-on if a population can rally around a single identity or goal, then there's also the potential investment associated with the sporting side. Govts all over the world want big, successful sporting teams in their jurisdiction because it contributes to the economy.

Luai is an immediate example - I believe his shirt sponsor for Tigers is Exclusive Estate Agents. He signs with PNG and he gets Pepsi. Chalk and cheese.

On the first point, 60M a year does bugger-all for our armed forces. For example just one F35 is 150M to purchase and we have 72 of them in the RAAF. A single E-7A Wedgetail is 570M. A P-8A Poseidon is 300M. That doesn't even cost operating costs, pilot training etc.

It's also bugger-all for our Pacific investment - 3.75B per year spent on Pacific region assistance.

60M to keep PNG on-side and China out is pennies.
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Unfortunately it makes no difference if China decide to move in.
 
Leck said:
While $600m is peanuts when it comes to upgrading, building, or purchasing modern, battlefield-ready hardware and systems, what that $600m can do over that time is train and strengthen our current personnel, as well as attract new recruits, in what is a new, modern age of warfare due to drones.

Our current armed forces (land, air and sea) number just over 90,000. China’s number over 2,000,000 and growing. Look at Ukraine and how it has used technology to stave off Russia.

The Chiefs’ Club will not protect our borders, nor will it change the influence and debt that China has plunged PNG into. Sure, it’s a feel good story, but that’s all it is, a politically brokered story by the Labor government.

Edit: PNG have around 4000 active armed forces.

www.abc.net.au

'Significant change to the relationship': PNG seeks $11.8b debt refinance from China

In a move experts say could give Beijing even greater influence over Australia's nearest neighbour, Papua New Guinea's Prime Minister James Marape reaches out to China to help refinance its $11.8 billion national debt.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
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Go labor 😆
 
jirskyr said:
I find this quite naive on two fronts.

Last point first - I am convinced that a PNG NRL team will help improve their community. There's so much positive flow-on if a population can rally around a single identity or goal, then there's also the potential investment associated with the sporting side. Govts all over the world want big, successful sporting teams in their jurisdiction because it contributes to the economy.

Luai is an immediate example - I believe his shirt sponsor for Tigers is Exclusive Estate Agents. He signs with PNG and he gets Pepsi. Chalk and cheese.

On the first point, 60M a year does bugger-all for our armed forces. For example just one F35 is 150M to purchase and we have 72 of them in the RAAF. A single E-7A Wedgetail is 570M. A P-8A Poseidon is 300M. That doesn't even cost operating costs, pilot training etc.

It's also bugger-all for our Pacific investment - 3.75B per year spent on Pacific region assistance.

60M to keep PNG on-side and China out is pennies.
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Keep china out 😆
 
Leck said:
In the end, I don’t have a problem with a PNG side. However, I do have a problem with the tax free incentive and us footing the bill.

This tax free clause will affect a lot of teams. It’s already affected ours, with Luai jumping ship.
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100% agree. I get they may need to incentivise guys to go there but the N.R.L and govt have gone way too far with it. Completly bottled it in terms of bringing the Bears into the comp around the same time.
 
achilles said:
Keep china out 😆
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Too late for that. The CCP, via a company called Landbridge, won a 99-year lease for the Port of Darwin in 2015.

Ye Cheng, the CEO, became a member of China’s CCP in 2013, and the Chinese government had previously recognised him for contributions relating to national defence.

Our politicians are complete clowns. They are now trying to get out of the deal, but the consequences are both financially and strategically dire.

 
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