10 Great things about Electric Cars.

Todd Packer said:
I've got a crappy petrol whipper snipper that's taken 10 pulls to start since it was new. I've been waiting for it to die to replace it but I got fed up and told the wife if it took 10 pulls to start when I mowed yesterday that'd be it, I'm done, it's going to the tip.
The bloody thing must've heard, it started first pull for the first time ever.
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So it came on early after just one pull….
 
Carefactor said:
Firstly the cost of recovering the lithium alone is 5 times the cost of virgin mined lithium , rendering it worthless at this stage unless business is forced to use it .. which it isnt.
Secondly the available EV batteries used from a previous car would come with a great degree of mystery as to their origin , particularly in regard to what wrote the vechicle of for these to be now removed.
The major reason EV's are written of isnt generally body damage but because the battery has been compromised is some fashion ( impact,water,heat etc) and not economical to replace. Would you trust one of these stacked on the side of the house. ?
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Burn Baby Burn.
 
TCL said:
One of the greatest things about an electric vehicle is that I don’t have one!

sad thing is I will probably have one at some stage in the future, electric cars imo are a stop gap, if Toyota cracks the hydrogen puzzle then we have a real alternative

but I will still have my V8’s and turbos
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I’ll consider buying an electric car only when solid state batteries replace Lithium ion batteries…. Safer with a range of 1000ks per charge
 
crazycat said:
Gah who makes this stuff up. I hear so much more about EV battery recycling then Asbestos disposal in Western Sydney! Asbestos disposal a far bigger issue along with Containimated land management.

No one cares about Recycling till 5 years after your flooded with Junk OR if the stuff is valuable.

Everyone wants EV batteries because once they are crap for a Car, they are great for House cells. 10 Years is the figure given, most Hybrid/EV batteries outlast that (some don't and you are rolling the dice). but what's crap in a car, is fine for a house. They don't go "Flat as a tac". You gradually loose range. that battery may be 60-70% capacity, so no good for performance car but otherwise fine.

Naturally after 20-30 years it will need to be dismanted for various parts...

That's where the EV's are cool as they don't have many models, yet. The car frames are steel + interior lining so easy to recycle. While the batteries are all uniform, much more uniform then a Toyota Camry. Recyclers love Uniformity as they know what's in the battery.

Worry about Asbestos disposal or Stone Kitchen benchtops. not this.
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Im not arguing the potential use of EV batts for home use etc its an amazing thing. But reality is there is a risk, although low (lower than petrol cars), of igniting and doesn't even have to be from a collision. We have had 6 at least and this is metal fire.. can't smother them, its more of a containment. Its not made up that a ship has sunk and at least a liner has banned EVs. Even Austraila requires them to be shipped in containers. Fire crews have to draw up new protocols dealing with it. Motorway Sydney that i mentioned is true. It cost them a lot to shut-down motorways if one catches fire without container containment. They have to be ready.
You can't just stockpile used up ones or landfill as these conditions makes it even more susceptible to igniting and they can seep and contaminate to soil & water.
 
Elon should have invested in hydrogen and not electric. Whilst hydrogen conversion is more expensive at the moment it’s 100% green and tech advances will make costs and vehicles comparable in the next few years.

Til that happens I’ll drive on petrol.
 
I believe that they have to immerse EV's that catch on fire in a container full of water and leave them there for at least 24 hours to put them out because they just keep burning.

Not sure if I want to park one in my garage or anywhere near my house or anything else that is combustible for that matter.
 
Demps said:
I have a hybrid.

Fill up, once a month.
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i have a diesel 4×4 and fill up every fortnight . And i bet mine cost less to buy and will last longer and go places your car wouldnt dare go.
But anyway Hybrid is the most practical way to go if u want to do the EV thing 👍🏻
 
Carefactor said:
i have a diesel 4×4 and fill up every fortnight . And i bet mine cost less to buy and will last longer and go places your car wouldnt dare go.
But anyway Hybrid is the most practical way to go if u want to do the EV thing 👍🏻
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Probably..

I drive to the work / shops / beach.
Works for me.
 
Was just thinking, wouldn't it be wonderful if someone invented some sort of a liquid that could go into a tank that was mounted under a motor vehicle and that liquid then allowed you to travel a long distance without having to stop and when the liquid needed to be replenished, it could be done relatively easily and in a short space of time at outlets that could be found all over this vast nation.

I don't know what anyone else thinks but I reckon that an idea like that could catch on, as opposed to catching on fire.
 
Carefactor said:
Firstly the cost of recovering the lithium alone is 5 times the cost of virgin mined lithium , rendering it worthless at this stage unless business is forced to use it .. which it isnt.
Secondly the available EV batteries used from a previous car would come with a great degree of mystery as to their origin , particularly in regard to what wrote the vechicle of for these to be now removed.
The major reason EV's are written of isnt generally body damage but because the battery has been compromised is some fashion ( impact,water,heat etc) and not economical to replace. Would you trust one of these stacked on the side of the house. ?
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To the major reason: You make a good
- Concern.
Not a - Blocker...

There is a huge difference here. People buy electric scooters, powerwalls, a bunch of high powered LI battery stuff and... Store it next to combustables.
That's a huge problem and a very valid Concern.

So if someone gave me 5 used Tesla batteries would I make a powerwall, HELL YES! Would I store it next to a wooden frame, HELL NO!
Likewise E scooters, likewise E anything. Ideally I would make a brick pit or enclosed area. A Brick Garage, fine, Timber no way.

Anyone reading that is paying an electricity bill right now would leap at getting a powerwall. They are SKY HIGH!

We have so many Tesla's on the market it's pretty clear where those batteries come from and they have a uniform process. Tesla is a Battery company that wrap their product in a high speed automobile. Others include Toyota/Hyundai/Mitsubishi/etc most of them arise from a single origin supplier. Auto manufacturers are pretty damn good at stating where a part comes from because genuine part replacement is their thing... E-scooters, yea who knows.

So back to your first point, Reuse the battery! 95% can be recycled and cost of recovery improves the more we recycle, but why recycle when we don't have too. Assess the batteries, reuse those that can be reused.


... OKay why on earth are we talking about this on a Football site? Please tell me exploding batteries are not our next sponsor!
 
Spartan117 said:
I'm buying an isuzu D Max Ute.
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Are you aware of the faults in them - ask me how I know. My MU-X is in limbo at the moment - the insurer won't repair the damage from hitting a roo, and Isuzu need to determine if it's a production fault, even though it is well known (after I bought mine) and there is even a class action! I'm hoping that Isuzu will fix the cracks in the body, then NRMA will carry out the repairs from the roo hit. I really hope that Mazz the MU-X gets fixed, because she really is the best car I've owned!
 
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