18th man in the NRL?🤕

[Tigerlily]

Is it time for the introduction of the 18 man?....

On tonights game the Sharks v Eels you would have to think so.

The Sharks having 3 players ruled out due to HIA and 1 out through another injury leaving them with no reserves on the bench, surely there would have to be some kind of onus on the NRL for the duty of care and welfare of it’s players.

Wouldn’t using independent doctor’s eliminate the concern of coaches exploiting the use of having an 18th man.

 

[JC99]

It needs to happen. These new rules are leading to a lot more concussions...

 

[Speed2burn]

Could almost make a case for 19th man aswell after today’s games

 

[Tiger_Steve]

It would be interesting to look at the data available on injury occurrence. It seems to me that the faster the game becomes the more incidence of head knocks and joint injury. Just an observation and maybe wrong but could the game be getting too quick?

 

[LeichhardtTiger]

The issue seems to have been that the teams were left without spare troops too early in the game. So perhaps having an extended bench for say the first 20 minutes is a fair workplace safety option. After that, it's called bad luck.

 

[Lauren]

The round 3 injury tolls were just discussed on the post-game show. There were three concussions or thereabouts, about the same long-term injuries and not sure of other (short or midterm) alone just from the round.

 

[WT2K]

The AFL have introduced it this season. Won't be too far off before league follows.

 

[ElleryHanley]

It is absolutely ridiculous it has not been brought it...beyond comprehension really.

The moment two guys collide from the same team in a semi or GF and both fail their HIAs, the NRL will 'react'.

The crazy thing is 19 players warm up...so, player 18 and 19 are right there anyway.

 

[Sabre]

I think it will happen before the end of this regular season. Especially now that the AFL is doing it. Pressure will mount every week until it happens - and it's inevitable that it will eventually.

 

[TYGA]

18th man will again create a further gap between the good and bad teams. Taking out every variable that can lead to a loss means the top teams win more. The roosters 18th man is better than our starters

 

[Rugba]

18th man is a big no no
What we want is fatigue and players who are fit to get an advantage .

Boohoo hearing ennis , forwards had to play an entire half without being subbed, like they never did that back in the day .

If forwards were forced each game to play without rests with interchange it would actually lessen injuries as they all wouldn’t be running 100 miles an hour whilst on the field and less wrestle as need to conserve energy .

shit coaches will want 18th man as they cant coach their teams to deal with adversity and play on .
Just like coaches complaining about 6 again rule with ball in play and making game faster ... well if they didn’t deliberately coach to cheat the rule wouldn’t need to be in place , and they still break rules purposely as seen with deliberate holding down of players on tackle 1

 

[TigerTone]

I say bring in the 18th man and possibly the 19th man ONLY if a team loses all its reserves to injury.

 

[jadtiger]

I am in favour of 18/19 man for genuine injuries but we all know that some coaches will abuse it the first chance they get.Example player X is having a shocker and a message goes to the trainer to get him off the field "injured" and unable to return,player 18 takes his place.Its a great idea but will be abused

 

[hobbo1]

I am in favour of 18/19 man for genuine injuries but we all know that some coaches will abuse it the first chance they get.Example player X is having a shocker and a message goes to the trainer to get him off the field "injured" and unable to return,player 18 takes his place.Its a great idea but will be abused

This ^^^

 

[Tigerlily]

18th man is a big no no
What we want is fatigue and players who are fit to get an advantage .

Boohoo hearing ennis , forwards had to play an entire half without being subbed, like they never did that back in the day .

If forwards were forced each game to play without rests with interchange it would actually lessen injuries as they all wouldn’t be running 100 miles an hour whilst on the field and less wrestle as need to conserve energy .

shit coaches will want 18th man as they cant coach their teams to deal with adversity and play on .
Just like coaches complaining about 6 again rule with ball in play and making game faster ... well if they didn’t deliberately coach to cheat the rule wouldn’t need to be in place , and they still break rules purposely as seen with deliberate holding down of players on tackle 1

Taking a player out of the game because of the HIA ruling has nothing at all to do with fatigue or adversity during a game.

 

[TrueTiger]

18th man is a big no no
What we want is fatigue and players who are fit to get an advantage .

Boohoo hearing ennis , forwards had to play an entire half without being subbed, like they never did that back in the day .

If forwards were forced each game to play without rests with interchange it would actually lessen injuries as they all wouldn’t be running 100 miles an hour whilst on the field and less wrestle as need to conserve energy .

shit coaches will want 18th man as they cant coach their teams to deal with adversity and play on .
Just like coaches complaining about 6 again rule with ball in play and making game faster ... well if they didn’t deliberately coach to cheat the rule wouldn’t need to be in place , and they still break rules purposely as seen with deliberate holding down of players on tackle 1

Taking a player out of the game because of the HIA ruling has nothing at all to do with fatigue or adversity during a game.

Well Lilly,Im old school and played a fair bit of Rugby League in the 80s...the game was tough ,fast and great to play and watch...
What the NRL head honchos are doing is turning the game from what it was meant to be into a HYBRID game of what it was...
THEY are now seeing the consequences of an exciting game turned into a revenue raising robotic like game all in the name of making it faster and more exciting...
It will burnout and ruin good players careers in the name of MONEY..
Teams with quality players are now suffering from this..Keary from the Roosters is a perfect example of trying to be quicker,tougher than the body can cope with...have a look at the injuries list after this weekend and see how many will be out with concussions,acl,mcl injuries etc...
just my opinion ....

 

[Fade.To.Black]

18th man is a big no no
What we want is fatigue and players who are fit to get an advantage .

Boohoo hearing ennis , forwards had to play an entire half without being subbed, like they never did that back in the day .

If forwards were forced each game to play without rests with interchange it would actually lessen injuries as they all wouldn’t be running 100 miles an hour whilst on the field and less wrestle as need to conserve energy .

shit coaches will want 18th man as they cant coach their teams to deal with adversity and play on .
Just like coaches complaining about 6 again rule with ball in play and making game faster ... well if they didn’t deliberately coach to cheat the rule wouldn’t need to be in place , and they still break rules purposely as seen with deliberate holding down of players on tackle 1

Taking a player out of the game because of the HIA ruling has nothing at all to do with fatigue or adversity during a game.

Well Lilly,Im old school and played a fair bit of Rugby League in the 80s...the game was tough ,fast and great to play and watch...
What the NRL head honchos are doing is turning the game from what it was meant to be into a HYBRID game of what it was...
THEY are now seeing the consequences of an exciting game turned into a revenue raising robotic like game all in the name of making it faster and more exciting...
It will burnout and ruin good players careers in the name of MONEY..
Teams with quality players are now suffering from this..Keary from the Roosters is a perfect example of trying to be quicker,tougher than the body can cope with...have a look at the injuries list after this weekend and see how many will be out with concussions,acl,mcl injuries etc...
just my opinion ....

I don't think Keary's injury can be put down to the new rules TT. Just unlucky.
Can't feel too bad for the Roosters though?

 

[JC99]

I don't see coaches taking advantage of an 18th man.... in reality that player is no better than anyone in the 17, if your guy fails a HIA then he misses the rest of the game and possibly your next game. Not worth it at all, plus aren't the tests done by independent doctors?

If they want to keep speeding up the game they should expect more injuries and concussions. Fatigued players make silly mistakes which leads to leaving a lazy arm out or putting their head in the wrong spot

This whole fatigue = entertainment idea is dumb anyway. The little man has always been the focus of footy even without these new rules and this year it's lead to some absolutely stinkers of games with two teams exhausted playing crap or one team flogging another team.

PVL has pushed these new rules without really thinking about it and the stats don't do him any favours. Points per game are the same, the ball is in play for the same amount of time but there's way more errors and injuries compared to last year - is that really better quality footy?

 

[LARDS]

I'm for the 18th man but only for injury caused by foul play.
Otherwise it's open for exploitation

 

[hank37w]

It would be interesting to look at the data available on injury occurrence. It seems to me that the faster the game becomes the more incidence of head knocks and joint injury. Just an observation and maybe wrong but could the game be getting too quick?

I agree I think it has gotten a bit too quick and at the very least the NRL should consider maybe an extra 2 interchanges.