2013 NRL License Bids

[Yossarian]

A Central Qld team would be good based on simple geography but having been to both Rockhampton and Mackay, I doubt their ability to support a Big W let alone an NRL team. Ipswitch seems all talk at the moment. The only 2 in a realistic position to start playing in the next few years are Perth and Central Coast. I also live on the Central Coast but am neutral on their bid. I will say though that the Bears bid people are working their backsides off…

 

[pacey]

If Cronulla collapses they can then introduce three expansion teams. I'd make them CC, Brisbane and Perth. It would be great if they introduced some kind of format that would make the season schedule fairer, perhaps a promotion/relegation system or a set-up with two conferences like in the NFL. But with the way teams are located that's unlikely.

I would love to see 2 conferences of 9, Sydney and Regional,
You play your conference teams twice and regional once,
Top 3 from each go through to the finals -
and the next top 2 with the most wins go through from either conferences.. and then given a power ranking - like the best teams are identified by order then a simple 1 - 8 bracket playoff… example, 1 v 8, 2 v 7 eetc

Sydney Conference
Tigers, Dragons, Rabbit, Eels, Dogs, Manly, Roosters, Canberra/Newcastle?, Panthers (sharks relocating to Perth Or CQ or just folding)
Regional Confrence
Storm, Titans, Broncos, Warriors, Newcastle/Canberra, Cowboys, Perth, CQ, Brisbane 2.

^ Seems even to me though deciding between Canberra and Newcastle would be hard...

 

[happy_tiger]

If Cronulla collapses they can then introduce three expansion teams. I'd make them CC, Brisbane and Perth. It would be great if they introduced some kind of format that would make the season schedule fairer, perhaps a promotion/relegation system or a set-up with two conferences like in the NFL. But with the way teams are located that's unlikely.

I would love to see 2 conferences of 9, Sydney and Regional,
You play your conference teams twice and regional once,
Top 3 from each go through to the finals -
and the next top 2 with the most wins go through from either conferences.. and then given a power ranking - like the best teams are identified by order then a simple 1 - 8 bracket playoff… example, 1 v 8, 2 v 7 eetc

Sydney Conference
Tigers, Dragons, Rabbit, Eels, Dogs, Manly, Roosters, Canberra/Newcastle?, Panthers (sharks relocating to Perth Or CQ or just folding)
Regional Confrence
Storm, Titans, Broncos, Warriors, Newcastle/Canberra, Cowboys, Perth, CQ, Brisbane 2.

^ Seems even to me though deciding between Canberra and Newcastle would be hard...

i think that is a great idea bar one issue . It would be unfair on external sides as they would have far more travelling than the Sydney teams and eventually would be unfairly affected by this

 

[happy_tiger]

Does anyone know where CQs team will be based if they get the license?

Ive heard Rockhampton or the Sunshine Coast but Im not fully sure.

I think the NRL will prefer Brisbane and Perth.

Brisbane probably needs another team and I think the NRL will like Perth because it opens up another timeslot as they are 3 hours behind and it gives the comp a more national feel.

They have a junior comp there, the Reds have been playing in the lower grades and I think they can develop a good support base.

Definitely Rockhampton any further north you start encroaching on Cowboys territory

 

[happy_tiger]

Ipswich would be a good inclusion for at least one reason . Brisbane people and Ipswich people don't usually get on real well at best . The Ipswich v Brisbane games would be wars . Can still remember seeing Wally Lewis get pelted with beer cans when he was sent to sin bin in QRL game in Ipswich when he gave the victory sign to the fans who were jeering him . As Tom Terrific used to say being at Ipswich used to remind him of Lidcombe

 

[tiger4ever]

I agree with Demps we dont need another team, 16 is enough. Imagine if there were more teams and we had the same dramas again with our massive injury toll, how would we be travelling then???? we have a big pool of players to call on and are really struggling at the moment to field a competitive team, REALLY we should have beat the gold coast by a big margin, they arent the force they use to be thats for sure.

I Just hope the game can afford 2 more teams with guarantees they wont try and cut sydney teams if they all of a sudden do a backflip and try and reduce teams.

I would have central coast bears only because i think they deserve another chance to make it and they have been trying since they got booted out UNFAIRLY.Another queensland team would work they get the crowds.

 

[Jazza]

I agree with Demps we dont need another team, 16 is enough. Imagine if there were more teams and we had the same dramas again with our massive injury toll, how would we be travelling then???? we have a big pool of players to call on and are really struggling at the moment to field a competitive team, REALLY we should have beat the gold coast by a big margin, they arent the force they use to be thats for sure.

I Just hope the game can afford 2 more teams with guarantees they wont try and cut sydney teams if they all of a sudden do a backflip and try and reduce teams.

I would have central coast bears only because i think they deserve another chance to make it and they have been trying since they got booted out UNFAIRLY.Another queensland team would work they get the crowds.

That would be Super League-post Super League all over again. One thing I think the game is desperate to avoid is a situation like that or similar situations. I think that's why expansion has been so slow since Super League. In my opinion Central Coast could of come in the same time as the Gold Coast in 2007.

The Bears are seen as having a losing history and culture but it has to be remembered they were a very strong side in the 90s, probably the best in the comp not to win a premiership. I think they made 5 prelim finals that decade, if it werent for the super teams of Canberra in the early 90s, Manly in the mid 90s and Brisbane throughout that era, they would of won some comps for sure. Their future was looking good until there were problems with their new stadium at the worst possible time.

The game should be able to afford two extra teams, by bringing 2 extra teams in, the tv rights deal goes up, which if augers well, it should be funneled back into the clubs through the club grants from the NRL. This will then increase the salary cap which will allow more players to play in the NRL. Of course this will increase the quality of the competition or at least maintain it as guys wont be going to England. Imagine the quality of the competition if we still had guys like Matt King, Michael Monaghan, Ryan Hoffman, Thomas Leululai, Danny Buderus and Brett Hodgson still playing in an expanded comp.

 

[Jazza]

If Cronulla collapses they can then introduce three expansion teams. I'd make them CC, Brisbane and Perth. It would be great if they introduced some kind of format that would make the season schedule fairer, perhaps a promotion/relegation system or a set-up with two conferences like in the NFL. But with the way teams are located that's unlikely.

I would love to see 2 conferences of 9, Sydney and Regional,
You play your conference teams twice and regional once,
Top 3 from each go through to the finals -
and the next top 2 with the most wins go through from either conferences.. and then given a power ranking - like the best teams are identified by order then a simple 1 - 8 bracket playoff… example, 1 v 8, 2 v 7 eetc

Sydney Conference
Tigers, Dragons, Rabbit, Eels, Dogs, Manly, Roosters, Canberra/Newcastle?, Panthers (sharks relocating to Perth Or CQ or just folding)
Regional Confrence
Storm, Titans, Broncos, Warriors, Newcastle/Canberra, Cowboys, Perth, CQ, Brisbane 2.

^ Seems even to me though deciding between Canberra and Newcastle would be hard...

i think that is a great idea bar one issue . It would be unfair on external sides as they would have far more travelling than the Sydney teams and eventually would be unfairly affected by this

The only problem I have with that is that in my opinion the TV networks will want as many games as possible involving a Sydney team vs a non Sydney team so that they get both markets watching the match. Theyre likely to get more people watching those matches because for matches involving just Sydney teams, the Brisbane market wont watch.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

Perth & Brisbane2 as Expansion Franchises.

A National Second Tier Competition (Regional Format including Central Coast, Wellington & CQ) which is ensured even TV exposure as apart of the next TV Rights Deal.

Restructure the Salary Cap to be fair for ALL Clubs. (it's current format is designed to keep poorly run businesses operating)

 

[Jazza]

Perth & Brisbane2 as Expansion Franchises.

A National Second Tier Competition (Regional Format including Central Coast, Wellington & CQ) which is ensured even TV exposure as apart of the next TV Rights Deal.

Restructure the Salary Cap to be fair for ALL Clubs. (it's current format is designed to keep poorly run businesses operating)

Agree there about the salary cap Watto.

But how would you restructure the salary cap? Phil Gould says the same thing but I dont think I've ever heard him come out with a solution for it.

 

[pacey]

Perth & Brisbane2 as Expansion Franchises.

A National Second Tier Competition (Regional Format including Central Coast, Wellington & CQ) which is ensured even TV exposure as apart of the next TV Rights Deal.

Restructure the Salary Cap to be fair for ALL Clubs. (it's current format is designed to keep poorly run businesses operating)

i think under 23s would be better
Then have premier league..

 

[Tiger_Watto]

We made the mistake of bringing in a Cap that allows football clubs to poach players from other clubs. As a result, regional Football in this country no longer have funding from Pinnacle Rugby League Clubs and the games Administration. It has also seen the majority of kids no longer having relevant role models. They only support the 'superstars' that they have never known or seen. I saw a kid the other week with a Bronco Cap. I asked him who his favourite player was and he said Jared Hayne… Go Figue?! Further more, the biggest pool where the AFL get thier talent from isnt Capital Cities, but regional centres and they are very very active out that way, while we seem to be doing less and less...

1 thing I would like is to see junior development be rewarded. The best way to do this is to turn the Salary Cap on its head... Make the Salary Cap $1.5/$2M to buy Players outside of your Junior Development Zones. Allocate every NRL Club Junior Development Zones in every state. Clubs who develop/nurture, get a free rein to keep there Juniors and pay them what they are worth.

Clubs who dont put enough effort into development, simply wouldnt/shouldnt be competitive. Keeping these clubs in the competition for the sake of 'Tradition' is laughable... They are killing the game of Rugby League!!!

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Clubs who dont put enough effort into development, simply wouldnt/shouldnt be competitive. Keeping these clubs in the competition for the sake of 'Tradition' is laughable… They are killing the game of Rugby League!!!

Mate, the NRL and the clubs want Rugby League to be a serious professional sport in this country, they need to embrace the fact that there is no place for sentiment and tradition simply for the sake of it. If the traditional clubs aren't solvent and running at a loss, they should be cut loose.

The AFL didn't think twice about relocating clubs to strengthen the game, and it worked wonders for them. Teams like Manly and Cronulla need to find ways to make their clubs marketable and competitive. If not, fold, merge or relocate. That said, it doesn't help in a place like Sydney where as a general consensus, sports fans are fickle.

 

[pacey]

We made the mistake of bringing in a Cap that allows football clubs to poach players from other clubs. As a result, regional Football in this country no longer have funding from Pinnacle Rugby League Clubs and the games Administration. It has also seen the majority of kids no longer having relevant role models. They only support the 'superstars' that they have never known or seen. I saw a kid the other week with a Bronco Cap. I asked him who his favourite player was and he said Jared Hayne… Go Figue?! Further more, the biggest pool where the AFL get thier talent from isnt Capital Cities, but regional centres and they are very very active out that way, while we seem to be doing less and less...

1 thing I would like is to see junior development be rewarded. The best way to do this is to turn the Salary Cap on its head... Make the Salary Cap $1.5/$2M to buy Players outside of your Junior Development Zones. Allocate every NRL Club Junior Development Zones in every state. Clubs who develop/nurture, get a free rein to keep there Juniors and pay them what they are worth.

Clubs who dont put enough effort into development, simply wouldnt/shouldnt be competitive. Keeping these clubs in the competition for the sake of 'Tradition' is laughable... They are killing the game of Rugby League!!!

I think clubs should be rewarded to finding young talent and also would encourage scouting… Maybe like half there salary goes to the cap or something..

 

[Snowy]

I think a CC team would be great ( as I live here and would get to go to more games :slight_smile: ) But in reality it's not needed at this point in time IMO we should expand into Queensland and New Zealand. Perth and the CC maybe in the future. Also the congested clubs in Sydney need to be reduced by one or two teams IMO .

 

[sunshine_coast_tiger]

Perth has to be the next in (large capital city, good time zone for games) makes it most attractive to TV bosses (Tv funds NRL) the other I would go for is Brisbane or Ipswich (far larger population and market than the Central Coast).

Expansion is all about how to get as much future TV revenue as possible (if it was about the bids Central Coast would get in).

I think there are enough good players to fill 2 new sides especially if we get a large increase in the salary cap because of our greatly increased TV deal.

 

[TigerGene]

Perth has to be the next in (large capital city, good time zone for games) makes it most attractive to TV bosses (Tv funds NRL) the other I would go for is Brisbane or Ipswich (far larger population and market than the Central Coast).

Expansion is all about how to get as much future TV revenue as possible (if it was about the bids Central Coast would get in).

I think there are enough good players to fill 2 new sides especially if we get a large increase in the salary cap because of our greatly increased TV deal.

Agree 100% …....however, 2nd Brisbane team is assured........ because of it's Bid Team; Sponsors already committed; Suncorp Stadium being utilised every second week; Juniors, especially south of the river and most importantly, Tribalism....a lot of fans living in Brisbane dislike the Broncos.

 

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No one!

Not enough players to go around.

 

[tigers05]

Perth has to be the next in (large capital city, good time zone for games) makes it most attractive to TV bosses (Tv funds NRL) the other I would go for is Brisbane or Ipswich (far larger population and market than the Central Coast).

Expansion is all about how to get as much future TV revenue as possible (if it was about the bids Central Coast would get in).

I think there are enough good players to fill 2 new sides especially if we get a large increase in the salary cap because of our greatly increased TV deal.

Agree 100% …....however, 2nd Brisbane team is assured........ because of it's Bid Team; Sponsors already committed; Suncorp Stadium being utilised every second week; Juniors, especially south of the river and most importantly, Tribalism....a lot of fans living in Brisbane dislike the Broncos.

I agree x3

 

[steve-o]

1\. central coast - their bid is miles ahead of any of the others
2\. 2nd brisbane team or perth