2015 Marquee signing announced

[innsaneink]

The proof will be in the pudding, after the first six weeks when we have come against the likes of the Rabbits,Eagles and Chooks some people may be having a re think where they sit on this subject. I have said many times to develop the best talent you need to have some elite players around them. For years we have been bolstering our roster with "hope and a prayer signings" and to date not many have gone on to be a real great buy.

You cant sit still, okay I do agree we first have to see what areas we need to fix and that should be obvious after two months of the comp, than we have to target a player or two players and give a real shot a signing them. We may not come up trumps but we have to give it a go.

I agree

 

[cochise]

If I was running the club at this stage I wouldn't be going out blowing a heap of money on a new star at this stage. Firstly you have to consider what position they would be in
Fullback - nope Tedesco is rightly considered a future star
Wing - Nofoaluma, Richards, Koroibete are enough at this stage and who buys marquee wingers
Centre -Chris Lawrence is a marquee centre and Simona was good enough to make the NZ train I. Squad after 10 games and coming through young Seve won the best schoolboy player last year

Halves. - the club and many experts better then anyone on here believe Moses and Brooks are future rep halves - until we know more about this we wouldn't sign a marquee half

Prop - woods and Galloway are origin props and the back up is looking better then ever

Hooker - farah marquee

Back row - the only position we might consider a marquee signing but we have Blair on big money here, Sironen will be a star and we have good depth around it in Fulton, Patterson, etc. I would think the first half of this year will determine the future of our back row but I think they will wait until Blair is off contract the yr after to see where we sit in this position

The one I disagree with is Chris Lawrance, it was expected that he would be a marquee player, but at this stage he isn't. I will curse that hip dislocation for the rest of my life as Chris is my favourite player and every game I hope the old Chris will return. I'm praying he is back this year. 😛ray: 😛ray: 😛ray: 😛ray: 😛ray: 😛ray: 😛ray: 😛ray: 😛ray: 😛ray: 😛ray: 😛ray: 😛ray:

 

[cunno]

An experienced nrl performer at 5/8 would be very handy.

 

[happy_tiger]

So who do you peeps want to sign from outside the club that is considered a marquee ? … Fifita ? Cam Smith ? These guys aren't going to come to the Tigers. Rather spend the money on our own marquee than throw it at some neville... wouldn't want to see the club make the same mistake Sheens.../Humpty made with Blair!!

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Mate you sign a marquee player to help the current crop of talented young players in first grade. This is what it takes to keep them sometimes. This is what will bring out the best in them. It will bring sponsors back, membership back, crowds back. It's quite poor to say we won't sign a marquee player because it didn't work with Blair. Every club has had dud signings in their history. In most cases young players will leave at the chance to play in a side containing elite players. So yes sign someone for the good of the club.

Besides at the time of signing Blair, he wasn't the best of the best. If we look at Melbourne in that instance, Slater, Cronk or Smith would have been a Marquee signing, the Blair signing was a Sheens stuff up.

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Blair at the time was the best second rower on the market

Remember the Roosters threw everything bar the kitchen sink at him to sign him

 

[happy_tiger]

So who do you peeps want to sign from outside the club that is considered a marquee ? … Fifita ? Cam Smith ? These guys aren't going to come to the Tigers. Rather spend the money on our own marquee than throw it at some neville... wouldn't want to see the club make the same mistake Sheens.../Humpty made with Blair!!

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Just want to sign a 6 who has good hands , good defense and a real team player

He doesn't need to be Thurston

 

[brett_empire]

I would happy if we showed interest in Fifita atleast !
Would be a sign or admission of guilt and acknowledgment of "yes we made a mistake but we'll try and fix it"
I could then forgive and forget ! Even if we don't get him, show some interest in signing a big name!

 

[boonboon]

Brett that is ridiculous. You want our club officials wasting time making offers to people we aren't interested in ? What next should they be out trying to sell memberships for the opposition as well. We have 2 starting origin props and 3 NRL standard props for the first time we don't need a prop. I understand Fifita is a class above most props in the game but at this stage it is not where we should be focusing our money in recruitment or retention

 

[phil1986]

Brett that is ridiculous. You want our club officials wasting time making offers to people we aren't interested in ? What next should they be out trying to sell memberships for the opposition as well. We have 2 starting origin props and 3 NRL standard props for the first time we don't need a prop. I understand Fifita is a class above most props in the game but at this stage it is not where we should be focusing our money in recruitment or retention

I agree mate… Not sure I would say they are SOO starting props, but they are of SOO standard...

We have depth in a position we have previously struggled in

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[innsaneink]

I'd say both have struggled somewhat at Origin level

 

[happy_tiger]

I'd say both have struggled somewhat at Origin level

Gotta agree ,they both lack that extra half a yard speed wise to make it to the advantage line

Woods was getting picked off pretty quickly

We have had some quality props over the years , but the same issue has arisen with them

As much as I loved Skando same issue

 

[pHyR3]

i feel like woodsy needs a little more time at origin. he's definitely not the first to be caught out by the speed and won't be the last.

i remember matty scott not going great his first game. had to wait a year or two before he got another shot

 

[happy_tiger]

i feel like woodsy needs a little more time at origin. he's definitely not the first to be caught out by the speed and won't be the last.

i remember matty scott not going great his first game. had to wait a year or two before he got another shot

I'm not referring to the speed of the game ,which is much quicker as you said , but he lacks speed (as does Keefy and Skando before him )

Look at some props of the recent era that have done well at SOO Scott ,Tamou , Petero all way faster than these guys

 

[Goose]

But that doesn't stop any sponsor of the clubs tipping money into Farah ,Keefy's ,Woods ,Brooks etc as part off their contract which is OUTSIDE the cap

And if Watto (for eg ) is prepared to stick up heaps of dough and not get any recognition we could stick X amount onto a contract of any player

100% wrong. If they sponsor the club it is inside the salary cap. They have to be silent sponsors, like the Broncos and their Thoroughbreds. I dont think you are getting it. These external non-cap sponsors have to be untied, non sponsor, just a random freebie for all intensive purposes. We cannont even keep a full fledged sponsor logo on chest/sleeve.

This is pretty much spot on.

In theory, whether it is inclusive of the cap depends on whether the player would receive the payment if they went to another club. Soo chris lawrence writing for the local paper for a fee should count, but Beua Ryan on the footy show does not.

That said there is a million gray areas, and one group the thoroughbreds, seem to just rort the system. IMO they are clearly linked to the club.

I know in Brisbane there is more commercial opportunity legitimately within the cap rules, but the thoroughbreds seems to be aligned to the club.

 

[happy_tiger]

OK Goose for the 2nd time I'll repeat what I said to BnW

The first situation was based on the 600 k which is spread over the Top 25

The 2nd situation is based on unlimited money being pumped in by a silent sponsor (namely Watto )

As Watto correctly added player managers are usually involved in the deals , so to keep the clubs direct involvement from this

You spoke about the Thoroughbreds , well Politis wouldn't be too far behind in this department

 

[Newtown]

Look at the situation which is arising now with Fifita who now looks a strong chance to become a Waratah in Rugby Union. Like the Sonny Bill situation which occurred a couple of years ago the NRL did not want to lose him but he commanded a lot of money. Did the NRL contribute to keep this marquee playing in the NRL? If so the same could happen with Fifita who certainly Cronulla cannot afford?.

 

[happy_tiger]

Look at the situation which is arising now with Fifita who now looks a strong chance to become a Waratah in Rugby Union. Like the Sonny Bill situation which occurred a couple of years ago the NRL did not want to lose him but he commanded a lot of money. Did the NRL contribute to keep this marquee playing in the NRL? If so the same could happen with Fifita who certainly Cronulla cannot afford?.

It takes a special player to make it as a league forward and union forward

In the modern game He's too tall as a prop ,not tall enough as a second rower or lock and not got the motor as a breakaway / flanker

 

[yeti]

Look at the situation which is arising now with Fifita who now looks a strong chance to become a Waratah in Rugby Union. Like the Sonny Bill situation which occurred a couple of years ago the NRL did not want to lose him but he commanded a lot of money. Did the NRL contribute to keep this marquee playing in the NRL? If so the same could happen with Fifita who certainly Cronulla cannot afford?.

It takes a special player to make it as a league forward and union forward

In the modern game He's too tall as a prop ,not tall enough as a second rower or lock and not got the motor as a breakaway / flanker

Yeah, I find it difficult to find a spot for him in the modern rugby forwards. Maybe a blind side flanker - he's got the size and speed, but whether he's got the stamina is another thing.

 

[innsaneink]

Haha not the right size for union,….bollocks

 

[happy_tiger]

Haha not the right size for union,….bollocks

Bet he doesn't go Ink

He's only a 194 cm

John Eales is 200 cm and would not be classed as tall in this day and age

James Horwill is 200 cm

Sitaleki Timani is 203 cm

Rob Simmons is 200 cm

Just remember these blokes have been working on their vertical leaps for many years and are at least 3 inches taller on top of that

He's too tall for a prop that's why Jarrod Saffy left union and originally signed with the Tigers

And he will be too big and cumbersome to play flanker in my opinion Flankers need to be reasonably close set to the ground to get into the rucks and mauls and not be falling over and giving away penalties

 

[pHyR3]

i feel like woodsy needs a little more time at origin. he's definitely not the first to be caught out by the speed and won't be the last.

i remember matty scott not going great his first game. had to wait a year or two before he got another shot

I'm not referring to the speed of the game ,which is much quicker as you said , but he lacks speed (as does Keefy and Skando before him )

Look at some props of the recent era that have done well at SOO Scott ,Tamou , Petero all way faster than these guys

that's true, but not all. Papalii, Cordner, Buhrer, Grant. These blokes aren't all speedsters, it helps but isn't essential.

i still think woods can be a solid played for NSW, foooty is footy. Whatever level, and the stuff he does at NRL can be transferred to SOO. Granted, he relies more on the way he contorts his body and a bit of strength to poke his head through the line than speed, but he can still use that in origin.