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@ said:@ said:lets remember Gould's track record on truth
He tells that many lies, he now actually beleives himself
What lies did he tell,
Anyway I thought that you had no problem with liars,
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@ said:@ said:lets remember Gould's track record on truth
He tells that many lies, he now actually beleives himself
@ said:@ said:@ said:lets remember Gould's track record on truth
He tells that many lies, he now actually beleives himself
Gould is a complete narcissist that is incapable of ever thinking he's in the wrong.
@ said:@ said:Wests Tigers have made a lot of dumb decision in their short and uneventful history but keeping Ivan Cleary on as coach for 2019 will rank up there as the worst of them all.
Management might be peddling that line as some sort of legal view point but reality is that the majority of fans, media, players, other coaches and staff just wont cop it.
Would be an absolute disaster.
I would think he is gone. As for the club, as others have said they just can't come out and say " Ivan is gone and we are looking for a new coach". They won't make any announcement until everything is finalised - new coach signed, deal finalised with Penrith and a big boot purchased to kick Ivan up the rear as he leaves.
@ said:@ said:@ said:Wests Tigers have made a lot of dumb decision in their short and uneventful history but keeping Ivan Cleary on as coach for 2019 will rank up there as the worst of them all.
Management might be peddling that line as some sort of legal view point but reality is that the majority of fans, media, players, other coaches and staff just wont cop it.
Would be an absolute disaster.
I would think he is gone. As for the club, as others have said they just can't come out and say " Ivan is gone and we are looking for a new coach". They won't make any announcement until everything is finalised - new coach signed, deal finalised with Penrith and a big boot purchased to kick Ivan up the rear as he leaves.
Spot on…we lose bargaining power if we announce Cleary is going in 2019 and we are on the lookout for a new coach.....the club is learning from manly on how not to manage this situation...I have a feeling we will get Bennett in 2019... I hope he brings 2 top line players with him (Not Boyd)
@ said:My 2 cents …
If we get Bennett we get a coach who is the best the game has seen, has had results everywhere he has coached, and would attract players who otherwise would not see our club as a potential home.
If we get Madge we get a coach who has had success with one club, playing a certain type of footy, that he cannot replicate at the Tigers. The fact he hasn't coached anywhere else since means we don't know if he has been able to update his playbook, and we don't know if he can develop a style of coaching that would work at the Tigers. He is more of a gamble than Bennett.
I know i am in the minority, but i would keep Ivan for another year if it means definitely getting Bennett in 2020\. It wouldn't be the first time, or the last time, a coach is signed elsewhere for the next season.
If everything is cleared up and the players know who is coaching and what the plan is, then they can put their heads down and concentrate on playing footy next year.
@ said:@ said:@ said:lets remember Gould's track record on truth
He tells that many lies, he now actually beleives himself
What lies did he tell,
Anyway I thought that you had no problem with liars,
@ said:Bennett's revealing text to Broncos players on 2019 plans
Author
Joel Gould
Timestamp
Fri 12 Oct 2018, 04:25 PM
Broncos coach Wayne Bennett sent a text to all his players about his plans for next year in which he said "I'm committed to you for 2019 and excited with what we can achieve together".
The text, sent to the entire playing group on September 25, was a heads up from Bennett about a Broncos statement about to be released to confirm he would not be coaching the side in 2020.
NRL.com has seen the text, which Brisbane players have taken as an emphatic promise from Bennett that he would honour his 2019 contract.
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That text explains why Anthony Milford and Josh McGuire have both asserted their conviction that Bennett will coach them next season.
"There will be a press release at 4.30[pm] stating that 2019 will be my final season for the Brisbane Broncos," Bennett wrote in his text.
"I'm committed to you for 2019 and excited with what we can achieve together. It was a club decision that 2019 was my last and you know regardless of that we know what a great group we are together.
"Have a good rest for us to have the best possible season. Have a fire in the belly for 2019."
Bennett signed off his text, as he often does to players past and present, with "Coach".
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All of Corey Oates' tries from 2018
The 68-year-old intends to coach on in 2020 and NRL.com has reported how Wests Tigers have moved to finalise a long-term deal with Bennett in the event that Ivan Cleary is released to coach the Penrith Panthers.
Bennett also told Broncos staff that he would be on board in 2019 before he flew to England on Wednesday to coach the national side in a three-Test series against New Zealand.
Broncos powerbrokers expect Bennett to honour his commitment for next year, while also aware that things change quickly in rugby league and that a move to the Tigers or elsewhere in 2019 is not beyond the realms of possibility.
NRL.com columnist and Broncos great Steve Renouf said Bennett was left with no choice but to investigate other options.
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"No one should bag him for that. That is his livelihood, and like everyone he has to look out for a job," Renouf said.
"A coach is no different and particularly now because back in the day they used to have a word called 'loyalty' but that is not in the rugby league dictionary anymore."
Renouf said Bennett would also have a fire in his belly next year to finish his Broncos coaching career with a premiership.
"If he’s here, and he's said he will be, Wayne will be wanting to go out with a bang and with a win," Renouf said.
"The Broncos won plenty of games against the top four this year and weren't far off, and I think they will be in even better shape next season.
"They can definitely challenge for a premiership."
@ said:Bennett's revealing text to Broncos players on 2019 plans
Author
Joel Gould
Timestamp
Fri 12 Oct 2018, 04:25 PM
Broncos coach Wayne Bennett sent a text to all his players about his plans for next year in which he said "I'm committed to you for 2019 and excited with what we can achieve together".
The text, sent to the entire playing group on September 25, was a heads up from Bennett about a Broncos statement about to be released to confirm he would not be coaching the side in 2020.
NRL.com has seen the text, which Brisbane players have taken as an emphatic promise from Bennett that he would honour his 2019 contract.
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That text explains why Anthony Milford and Josh McGuire have both asserted their conviction that Bennett will coach them next season.
"There will be a press release at 4.30[pm] stating that 2019 will be my final season for the Brisbane Broncos," Bennett wrote in his text.
"I'm committed to you for 2019 and excited with what we can achieve together. It was a club decision that 2019 was my last and you know regardless of that we know what a great group we are together.
"Have a good rest for us to have the best possible season. Have a fire in the belly for 2019."
Bennett signed off his text, as he often does to players past and present, with "Coach".
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All of Corey Oates' tries from 2018
The 68-year-old intends to coach on in 2020 and NRL.com has reported how Wests Tigers have moved to finalise a long-term deal with Bennett in the event that Ivan Cleary is released to coach the Penrith Panthers.
Bennett also told Broncos staff that he would be on board in 2019 before he flew to England on Wednesday to coach the national side in a three-Test series against New Zealand.
Broncos powerbrokers expect Bennett to honour his commitment for next year, while also aware that things change quickly in rugby league and that a move to the Tigers or elsewhere in 2019 is not beyond the realms of possibility.
NRL.com columnist and Broncos great Steve Renouf said Bennett was left with no choice but to investigate other options.
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"No one should bag him for that. That is his livelihood, and like everyone he has to look out for a job," Renouf said.
"A coach is no different and particularly now because back in the day they used to have a word called 'loyalty' but that is not in the rugby league dictionary anymore."
Renouf said Bennett would also have a fire in his belly next year to finish his Broncos coaching career with a premiership.
"If he’s here, and he's said he will be, Wayne will be wanting to go out with a bang and with a win," Renouf said.
"The Broncos won plenty of games against the top four this year and weren't far off, and I think they will be in even better shape next season.
"They can definitely challenge for a premiership."
@ said:@ said:@ said:@ said:lets remember Gould's track record on truth
He tells that many lies, he now actually beleives himself
What lies did he tell,
Anyway I thought that you had no problem with liars,
He denied he knew anything about the Cleary talks, he sacked Griffin, Griffin confirmed that Gus told him Ivan was coming
@ said:@ said:@ said:@ said:He tells that many lies, he now actually beleives himself
What lies did he tell,
Anyway I thought that you had no problem with liars,
He denied he knew anything about the Cleary talks, he sacked Griffin, Griffin confirmed that Gus told him Ivan was coming
How do you know when Gus is telling lies?
His lips are moving.
@ said:@ said:@ said:@ said:What lies did he tell,
Anyway I thought that you had no problem with liars,
He denied he knew anything about the Cleary talks, he sacked Griffin, Griffin confirmed that Gus told him Ivan was coming
How do you know when Gus is telling lies?
His lips are moving.
You said it better than Allan Pease. :roll
@ said:@ said:@ said:@ said:He denied he knew anything about the Cleary talks, he sacked Griffin, Griffin confirmed that Gus told him Ivan was coming
How do you know when Gus is telling lies?
His lips are moving.
You said it better than Allan Pease. :roll
My favourite saying at work is "No brains and happy without one"
@ said:Hooper saying Maguire.
@ said:Hooper saying Maguire.
@ said:So, the Panthers have stated that Ciraldo is the coach for next year, but will be replaced, the Bronco's have stated the same for Bennett…....everyone appears to be ok with that, but if Cleary is only here for next year as well, somehow that's a problem and we'll go backwards?
Think it'll all work out well enough if Cleary is here next year and there's confirmation of Bennett for 2020.
@ said:@ said:My 2 cents …
If we get Bennett we get a coach who is the best the game has seen, has had results everywhere he has coached, and would attract players who otherwise would not see our club as a potential home.
If we get Madge we get a coach who has had success with one club, playing a certain type of footy, that he cannot replicate at the Tigers. The fact he hasn't coached anywhere else since means we don't know if he has been able to update his playbook, and we don't know if he can develop a style of coaching that would work at the Tigers. He is more of a gamble than Bennett.
I know i am in the minority, but i would keep Ivan for another year if it means definitely getting Bennett in 2020\. It wouldn't be the first time, or the last time, a coach is signed elsewhere for the next season.
If everything is cleared up and the players know who is coaching and what the plan is, then they can put their heads down and concentrate on playing footy next year.
In your opinion,he’s the best,
hardly any coach has had the players that he’s had to work with.
Yes hes been good but he’s had almost the whole state that’s mad on the game to pick from,
At times he’s had 15 year old kids signed by the dozen to sift through,
Hes had a leagues club that just happened to employ a rather large number of players wives
Over a long time , and funnily enough, they weren’t sighted working in the club very often , if at all.
He’s had The Thoroughbreds to shovel money into the Bennett coffers almost every year.
He’s had two of the best highschools in the game feeding loads of talent into his teams
And he’s had the pick of Qld soo players to work with for much of his time in the game.
His only attempt with a lower quality NRL team , ended with The Knights almost on their knees.
He had a pretty good team this year, but was murdered when it mattered , and was helped bybad Officials calls through out the season ,which gave him a rails ride into the Semis.
No one can deny that with the talent that he’s had , and the help organised by Andrew Gee, at times he should have the record that he’s got!!
He won’t come here , as he’s seen the other side at Newcastle , and won’t risk his reputation before he picks up his last big checque after next year
He also scarpered from the airport after doing a crap job with the Aussie team,
There’s been a lot of good coaches, but none with the same advantages that Bennett’s had