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I wouldn't be so sure…
2019 Coaching saga -Thread
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I wouldn't be so sure…
GNR4LIFE
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TPJ is contracted for 2019\. Signing for a year would keep him there the end of 2020.
GNR4LIFE
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And I don’t think Bennett would need any bargaining chips with us. We need him a lot more than he needs us.
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Don't jump the gun too quickly on this one. Bennett is the preferred option and what is being reported isn't always true - we've seen enough nonsense printed by journos to know better.
vlad
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No he’s off contract now . He’s waiting for his contract with his agent to lapse in November before he signs his next contract .
Madge
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Can these people hurry up and choose a coach so I can pick a new username I’m sick of this guys name already. Hurry up for gods sake!
Tim Sheens
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Would have been a lot easier if Cleary did not hold discussions with Penrith for next year onwards and then indicate his wanting to get out fast to WT CEO and Chair. Thus, pretty clear that he would not want to build a solid last year under sufferance having informed the club that he prefers to leave.
old_man_tiger
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Paws I'm interested in your reasoning here, I agree Unca would be better but I'd say Maguire>Cleary.
Sorry if you've explained it already
851
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Agree Willow, Bennett wants to coach past 2019, we are offering him a chance, that chance might not be there if we sign Madge for 2019\. It looks like Pascoe is playing this well, and Bennett might have to come for 2019, or risk not having a job to go to in 2020
GNR4LIFE
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I’m with you
wonka
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Hodgson for 2019 Wayne for 2020 that way we keep recruitment up to Bennett.
Half our squad is off contract next year.
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mario_chalmers
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Let's clear up the Pangai situation. He is quoted here
https://twitter.com/tennewsqld/status/1049627992186482688
No contract for 2019.
I think Pascoe would be crazy to try and pressure Bennett into coming earlier. You take him when you can get him. I also think announcing Wayne signing for 2020 increases the likelihood that Broncos release him straight away. It's no different to our club/fans not wanting Ivan around now we know he has eyes for another team.
Bennett is a game changer for WT. Maguire is not. Bennett brings sponsors, he brings players, he changes the whole fabric of the club as soon as he walks through the door. It is surely worth waiting until 2020 for him. We don't need a new coach "now" as some seem to be saying. Cleary has a contract and in a way it would be good to see him have to lead us through 2019\. The squad we have now is all his doing.
If I was Pascoe I would:
a) sign Bennett from 2020
b) Before the ink dries on that contract I'd get straight on the phone to Gus Gould and tell him "we're holding Ivan until next summer. If you want him earlier you get us Wayne straight away."
I can't find the article but I am sure I have read Bennett quoted as saying "The only way I won't be at the Broncos in 2019 is if they sack me." By that he is saying "I'm going to sign elsewhere for 2020, if you want to punt me before then that is your call."
Spud_Murphy
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I'm with you too, but here's another scenario we could try if Ivan really wants to go now and the club/players/supporters don't want him around next year.
By all accounts, Madge has his heart set on coaching the Broncos, but it looks like Wayne's not gonna budge for 2019 and he has every right not to. We want Wayne long term more than we want Madge or Cleary. So if it becomes 'untenable' for Cleary to stay for another year (as many seem to believe it will be) why don't we sign Madge up for one year, then he and Bennett can swap places in 2020?
Win/win for everyone! Cleary will be with his beloved son at the Panthers sooner rather than later and the WT supporters baying for his blood will be happy to see him go, Madge will have a practice gig with an NRL team before taking on his preferred team in Brisbane and we can get one of the best ever coaches onboard long term from 2020 onwards, assuming we're all still here by then.
Or we can just hang onto Cleary for one more year and then go after Bennett :mrgreen:
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No, if he asks for a release he blows his Mill+ for 2019 from the Donkeys.
If they sack him, they have to pay him out. Then he is free for another Mill+ from the Tigers. Win Win for Unca Wayne..
Can't see him leaving early though. We need to have a fill in coach (obvious one is Cleary) if Unca is coming here.
If not it looks like Madge would be the choice unfortunately. Would prefer Neil Henry to him any day myself.
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Yeah I’m interested also.
The way I look at it the sort after coach of the year had just the equivalent success that Madge achieved in both of their first years coaching the Rabbitohs.
Do people forgot how strong the Rabbitohs were in 2012? They finished with 16 wins in third place. Remember they were leading the dogs in the prelim final before Reyonds had to leave the field with a knee injury.
In 2013 finished with 18 wins just shy of the minor premiership.
They finished 10th in 2011 with 11 wins.
2016 and 2017 they finished 12th
2018 they finished 3rd with 16 wins in 6 years they came exactly full circle.
Seibold came into 2018 with vertically a new centre paring could say the qld centres. And fit again Burgi.
A lot of work was done in the preseason to get this team going. But whose to say he’ll have the same success again?
With Madge we know he had 2 great seasons, 1 perfect season, 1 decent season and 2 average seasons. Making the finals 4 out of 6 times.
Pawsandclaws
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Cleary brought excellent communication skills to the club. Despite what is happening, he cannot be accused of not being a polished performer in both dealings with players or the media. He was an asset to our club and most of all, our players like him and play for him.,
The Stuart/Maguire/Hasler style coaches rely on anger/temper and gesticulation. To me, the shouting and anger may work initially but eventually it loses impact as we've seen at Souths with Maguire. We also witnessed Maguire having no Plan B if Plan A didn't work. I'd like to believe we've outgrown this type of coach who will set us back years,
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Bennett has longevity in the NRL, is a polished performer despite what many believe (I think he actively cultivates this image and Lockyer etc are happy to play up to it) and we know the players like him very much, He will attract $ and players. We need him at the club and should do everything possible to get him here asap,
