3,2,1 warriors trial

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But seriously...

3- Marshall
2- Leilua
1- Musgrove

Marshall was in everything, shaped everything well and looked threatening from start until the end of his spell

Leilua is a superstar and is an awesome pick-up for the team - I always said at his best he was second behind Inglis but now with the latter gone and Latrell moving to Fullback he is the best centre in the game.

Musgrove i am not surprised about, I was singing his praises when he signed with the club - He's had a rough season and a half, two seasons but he is a quality player and will push to start.

Speaking of Ex-Souths players, Adam Douiehi is another big signing for the Tigers - I rate him especially highly and has just about everything.

He isn't the quickest man on the planet but will play like a hybrid Fullback, Five-Eighth which will defer attention as much as possible from the fact speed is one of his only weaknesses - He played really well today, strong on first contact and directed the team well in that second half.

Interesting comment regarding Benji TR. You are more objective than us biased supporters. I think Benji is at his best when he picks his moments. Today I thought he was too dominant and negated opportunities for Brooks.

Brooks really needs to increase his presence on the game though, he is the halfback and shouldn't be waiting for anyone to give him control!

Yep that’s true. I think, rightly or wrongly, he is intimidated by Benji dominance (and Farah)

I agree fully Steve, I think it may come from him being a Tigers fan as a kid and the memories of 2005.

He is at the point though now that to continue to develop he needs to demand the ball. He also needs to work on his passing game as he creates most of his opportunities through his running game, he needs to start to create room for the players around him! I'm saying that as a fan of his but that is where he needs to go to reach the next level. His primary passing play is hitting Garner with a short ball, just needs to create a bit more variety to his game now!

I’m a fan as well so my critique comes from already admiring his play.
Two things:
1. His passing game is one dimensional- fast flat pass that sticks or doesn’t.
2. He does not own the big moments and/or steer the team home in last 20 minutes
These things will take him to origin level player imo.
Wish we’d get Andrew Johns to mentor him like every other club out there

Wah ? He scored an individual try when the score was 10-6. Lol Also the reason he didn’t over call Benji was the fact the Leilua Bro’s were destroying the right edge . Why would you over call them ? You guys say youre objective , but do you actually watch ? He controlled the game and poked down his side when the bLl came his way . He defended well and , the game was won when Benji was on the bench .
His first half kicking was poor , until I realised the breeze strength. Garner went off early with a cut , hence the tape . Mbye went off with concussion . And NZ defended well , down that edge . Far out guys .

Garner had a knee issue ...didn't you see when they slowed it down same as Mbye

Way to focus on the wrong thing ? Cool my point made around that is still the same. The left edge was a bits and bobs most of the game

Well there was few wrong things to focus on ..sometimes that happens ..Walters pass to left side isn't as accurate either

Mbye's injury was concerning ......same knee he had issues with last season

Garner is probably our best hole runner ..if he is missing it is another concern



Definitely agree with all that . If Mbye can be the player we know he is , and Garner continues his development, Doueihi and Thommo doing thier thing , I think the “wrong option” won’t happen anywhere near as often , and the left foot step against the grain , might reap some sweet rewards for Luke.
Both edges seem like they will be a handful.
We seemed like a cat toying with a mouse for most of that game . Even with the crazy penalty count. It’s really exciting . We haven’t seen us look a level above an NRL side in years. Despite it being a trial.
Even the big wins last year felt like , half the opposition not caring , and half us being good.

The more targets Brooks and Marshall have the more dangerous we become and the better higher percentage options they have to choose from

That leads to higher completion rates and the more dangerous that we become

The biggest question is still Walters ...he obviously played more direct than last week ..but his longer passes quite often weren't out in front of our halves and they were waiting for the ball to arrive
 
@Strongee said in [3 said:
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@happy_tiger said in [3 said:
@Strongee said in [3 said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [3 said:
@cochise said in [3 said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [3 said:
@cochise said in [3 said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [3 said:
@TigerRabbit said in [3 said:
But seriously...

3- Marshall
2- Leilua
1- Musgrove

Marshall was in everything, shaped everything well and looked threatening from start until the end of his spell

Leilua is a superstar and is an awesome pick-up for the team - I always said at his best he was second behind Inglis but now with the latter gone and Latrell moving to Fullback he is the best centre in the game.

Musgrove i am not surprised about, I was singing his praises when he signed with the club - He's had a rough season and a half, two seasons but he is a quality player and will push to start.

Speaking of Ex-Souths players, Adam Douiehi is another big signing for the Tigers - I rate him especially highly and has just about everything.

He isn't the quickest man on the planet but will play like a hybrid Fullback, Five-Eighth which will defer attention as much as possible from the fact speed is one of his only weaknesses - He played really well today, strong on first contact and directed the team well in that second half.

Interesting comment regarding Benji TR. You are more objective than us biased supporters. I think Benji is at his best when he picks his moments. Today I thought he was too dominant and negated opportunities for Brooks.

Brooks really needs to increase his presence on the game though, he is the halfback and shouldn't be waiting for anyone to give him control!

Yep that’s true. I think, rightly or wrongly, he is intimidated by Benji dominance (and Farah)

I agree fully Steve, I think it may come from him being a Tigers fan as a kid and the memories of 2005.

He is at the point though now that to continue to develop he needs to demand the ball. He also needs to work on his passing game as he creates most of his opportunities through his running game, he needs to start to create room for the players around him! I'm saying that as a fan of his but that is where he needs to go to reach the next level. His primary passing play is hitting Garner with a short ball, just needs to create a bit more variety to his game now!

I’m a fan as well so my critique comes from already admiring his play.
Two things:
1. His passing game is one dimensional- fast flat pass that sticks or doesn’t.
2. He does not own the big moments and/or steer the team home in last 20 minutes
These things will take him to origin level player imo.
Wish we’d get Andrew Johns to mentor him like every other club out there

Wah ? He scored an individual try when the score was 10-6. Lol Also the reason he didn’t over call Benji was the fact the Leilua Bro’s were destroying the right edge . Why would you over call them ? You guys say youre objective , but do you actually watch ? He controlled the game and poked down his side when the bLl came his way . He defended well and , the game was won when Benji was on the bench .
His first half kicking was poor , until I realised the breeze strength. Garner went off early with a cut , hence the tape . Mbye went off with concussion . And NZ defended well , down that edge . Far out guys .

Garner had a knee issue ...didn't you see when they slowed it down same as Mbye

Way to focus on the wrong thing ? Cool my point made around that is still the same. The left edge was a bits and bobs most of the game

Well there was few wrong things to focus on ..sometimes that happens ..Walters pass to left side isn't as accurate either

Mbye's injury was concerning ......same knee he had issues with last season

Garner is probably our best hole runner ..if he is missing it is another concern



Definitely agree with all that . If Mbye can be the player we know he is , and Garner continues his development, Doueihi and Thommo doing thier thing , I think the “wrong option” won’t happen anywhere near as often , and the left foot step against the grain , might reap some sweet rewards for Luke.
Both edges seem like they will be a handful.
We seemed like a cat toying with a mouse for most of that game . Even with the crazy penalty count. It’s really exciting . We haven’t seen us look a level above an NRL side in years. Despite it being a trial.
Even the big wins last year felt like , half the opposition not caring , and half us being good.

So basically we are in agreeance, not sure what you are arguing about. He needs to improve on his options and ball play which is pretty much all I said. I even talked about him biting back into the defence with runners hitting the holes outside him. Yes having better players around him should help that as well.
 
@happy_tiger said in [3 said:
but his longer passes quite often weren’t out in front of our halves and they were waiting for the ball to arrive

That has been one of my biggest problems with Reynolds at hooker as he has the same problem. Though Reynolds did look better today is service is still too slow and behind the receivers!
 
@cochise said in [3 said:
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@Strongee said in [3 said:
@happy_tiger said in [3 said:
@Strongee said in [3 said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [3 said:
@cochise said in [3 said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [3 said:
@cochise said in [3 said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [3 said:
@TigerRabbit said in [3 said:
But seriously...

3- Marshall
2- Leilua
1- Musgrove

Marshall was in everything, shaped everything well and looked threatening from start until the end of his spell

Leilua is a superstar and is an awesome pick-up for the team - I always said at his best he was second behind Inglis but now with the latter gone and Latrell moving to Fullback he is the best centre in the game.

Musgrove i am not surprised about, I was singing his praises when he signed with the club - He's had a rough season and a half, two seasons but he is a quality player and will push to start.

Speaking of Ex-Souths players, Adam Douiehi is another big signing for the Tigers - I rate him especially highly and has just about everything.

He isn't the quickest man on the planet but will play like a hybrid Fullback, Five-Eighth which will defer attention as much as possible from the fact speed is one of his only weaknesses - He played really well today, strong on first contact and directed the team well in that second half.

Interesting comment regarding Benji TR. You are more objective than us biased supporters. I think Benji is at his best when he picks his moments. Today I thought he was too dominant and negated opportunities for Brooks.

Brooks really needs to increase his presence on the game though, he is the halfback and shouldn't be waiting for anyone to give him control!

Yep that’s true. I think, rightly or wrongly, he is intimidated by Benji dominance (and Farah)

I agree fully Steve, I think it may come from him being a Tigers fan as a kid and the memories of 2005.

He is at the point though now that to continue to develop he needs to demand the ball. He also needs to work on his passing game as he creates most of his opportunities through his running game, he needs to start to create room for the players around him! I'm saying that as a fan of his but that is where he needs to go to reach the next level. His primary passing play is hitting Garner with a short ball, just needs to create a bit more variety to his game now!

I’m a fan as well so my critique comes from already admiring his play.
Two things:
1. His passing game is one dimensional- fast flat pass that sticks or doesn’t.
2. He does not own the big moments and/or steer the team home in last 20 minutes
These things will take him to origin level player imo.
Wish we’d get Andrew Johns to mentor him like every other club out there

Wah ? He scored an individual try when the score was 10-6. Lol Also the reason he didn’t over call Benji was the fact the Leilua Bro’s were destroying the right edge . Why would you over call them ? You guys say youre objective , but do you actually watch ? He controlled the game and poked down his side when the bLl came his way . He defended well and , the game was won when Benji was on the bench .
His first half kicking was poor , until I realised the breeze strength. Garner went off early with a cut , hence the tape . Mbye went off with concussion . And NZ defended well , down that edge . Far out guys .

Garner had a knee issue ...didn't you see when they slowed it down same as Mbye

Way to focus on the wrong thing ? Cool my point made around that is still the same. The left edge was a bits and bobs most of the game

Well there was few wrong things to focus on ..sometimes that happens ..Walters pass to left side isn't as accurate either

Mbye's injury was concerning ......same knee he had issues with last season

Garner is probably our best hole runner ..if he is missing it is another concern



Definitely agree with all that . If Mbye can be the player we know he is , and Garner continues his development, Doueihi and Thommo doing thier thing , I think the “wrong option” won’t happen anywhere near as often , and the left foot step against the grain , might reap some sweet rewards for Luke.
Both edges seem like they will be a handful.
We seemed like a cat toying with a mouse for most of that game . Even with the crazy penalty count. It’s really exciting . We haven’t seen us look a level above an NRL side in years. Despite it being a trial.
Even the big wins last year felt like , half the opposition not caring , and half us being good.

So basically we are in agreeance, not sure what you are arguing about. He needs to improve on his options and ball play which is pretty much all I said. I even talked about him biting back into the defence with runners hitting the holes outside him. Yes having better players around him should help that as well.


I’m not agreeing at all . I’m saying a lot of his “wrong options” is to do with the lack of trust in those around him to make a play, or , the defence not falling for the block because Brooks is the only real danger and he has the ball .
With the quality around him much improved , we should see a huge uptick.
But personally I think he is the 3rd best half in the game , behind Keary and DCE. He just gets a lot of hate , and I feel like I’m taking crazy pills , reading and listening to a lot of it .
He’s not Andrew Johns , but we definitely kept the right half imo. He’s no flat track bully like That other poser.
 
I thought Musgrove was solid without being outstanding. And I was impressed with Billy Walters. Generally I thought his defence was very good.
BJ and LL were dangerous.
Benji was good.
3. BJ
2. Benji
3. Josh A.
 
@cochise said in [3 said:
@happy_tiger said in [3 said:
but his longer passes quite often weren’t out in front of our halves and they were waiting for the ball to arrive

That has been one of my biggest problems with Reynolds at hooker as he has the same problem. Though Reynolds did look better today is service is still too slow and behind the receivers!

Hoping it was the wind causing issues ...but he is a 5/8 ....his passing game should be fairly strong
 
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His passing game might be ‘one dimensional’ but it’s effective he was one of the top try assisters last year according to Fox league. He took over in the second half and did good.



Yes he is near the top in try assists, but he hasn't seriously been in discussions for rep honours. That should be a huge goal of his now and to get there he needs to improve aspects of his already strong game!

Mate , favouritism and perspective play a huge part IN rep teams at all levels . His main issue is The tigers lack of wins. Also a huge deterrent is the fact Cleary has been gifted the 7 no matter what because now we have to “pick and stick” . Even though he’s been a passenger the last 2 origin series.
We have to win plain and simple , then he will get the plaudits. But even then , it’s going to take something to supplant Cleary.
But he’s still young and has time . Johns couldn’t supplant Kimmorley for years , which in hindsight was madness. ( not saying he’s Johns 2.0 , just using it as an example).
Like i said sometimes people get fixated on players. Like Kimmorley , Gidley even Morgan now .
Brooksy has to lead us to victories and make it a travesty that he isn’t picked. That’s the climate we are in at the moment .
 
3. BJ
2. BENJI
1. MUSGROVE
Taylor & Reynolds played themselves into R1 team.
Clarke was much better than I expected, thought he stood out over Twal.
Garner continues to impress.
A little dissapointed with Aloia.
All recruits looked promising.
No room for Matterson.
 
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@Strongee said in [3 said:
@happy_tiger said in [3 said:
@Strongee said in [3 said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [3 said:
@cochise said in [3 said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [3 said:
@cochise said in [3 said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [3 said:
@TigerRabbit said in [3 said:
But seriously...

3- Marshall
2- Leilua
1- Musgrove

Marshall was in everything, shaped everything well and looked threatening from start until the end of his spell

Leilua is a superstar and is an awesome pick-up for the team - I always said at his best he was second behind Inglis but now with the latter gone and Latrell moving to Fullback he is the best centre in the game.

Musgrove i am not surprised about, I was singing his praises when he signed with the club - He's had a rough season and a half, two seasons but he is a quality player and will push to start.

Speaking of Ex-Souths players, Adam Douiehi is another big signing for the Tigers - I rate him especially highly and has just about everything.

He isn't the quickest man on the planet but will play like a hybrid Fullback, Five-Eighth which will defer attention as much as possible from the fact speed is one of his only weaknesses - He played really well today, strong on first contact and directed the team well in that second half.

Interesting comment regarding Benji TR. You are more objective than us biased supporters. I think Benji is at his best when he picks his moments. Today I thought he was too dominant and negated opportunities for Brooks.

Brooks really needs to increase his presence on the game though, he is the halfback and shouldn't be waiting for anyone to give him control!

Yep that’s true. I think, rightly or wrongly, he is intimidated by Benji dominance (and Farah)

I agree fully Steve, I think it may come from him being a Tigers fan as a kid and the memories of 2005.

He is at the point though now that to continue to develop he needs to demand the ball. He also needs to work on his passing game as he creates most of his opportunities through his running game, he needs to start to create room for the players around him! I'm saying that as a fan of his but that is where he needs to go to reach the next level. His primary passing play is hitting Garner with a short ball, just needs to create a bit more variety to his game now!

I’m a fan as well so my critique comes from already admiring his play.
Two things:
1. His passing game is one dimensional- fast flat pass that sticks or doesn’t.
2. He does not own the big moments and/or steer the team home in last 20 minutes
These things will take him to origin level player imo.
Wish we’d get Andrew Johns to mentor him like every other club out there

Wah ? He scored an individual try when the score was 10-6. Lol Also the reason he didn’t over call Benji was the fact the Leilua Bro’s were destroying the right edge . Why would you over call them ? You guys say youre objective , but do you actually watch ? He controlled the game and poked down his side when the bLl came his way . He defended well and , the game was won when Benji was on the bench .
His first half kicking was poor , until I realised the breeze strength. Garner went off early with a cut , hence the tape . Mbye went off with concussion . And NZ defended well , down that edge . Far out guys .

Garner had a knee issue ...didn't you see when they slowed it down same as Mbye

Way to focus on the wrong thing ? Cool my point made around that is still the same. The left edge was a bits and bobs most of the game

Well there was few wrong things to focus on ..sometimes that happens ..Walters pass to left side isn't as accurate either

Mbye's injury was concerning ......same knee he had issues with last season

Garner is probably our best hole runner ..if he is missing it is another concern



Definitely agree with all that . If Mbye can be the player we know he is , and Garner continues his development, Doueihi and Thommo doing thier thing , I think the “wrong option” won’t happen anywhere near as often , and the left foot step against the grain , might reap some sweet rewards for Luke.
Both edges seem like they will be a handful.
We seemed like a cat toying with a mouse for most of that game . Even with the crazy penalty count. It’s really exciting . We haven’t seen us look a level above an NRL side in years. Despite it being a trial.
Even the big wins last year felt like , half the opposition not caring , and half us being good.

So basically we are in agreeance, not sure what you are arguing about. He needs to improve on his options and ball play which is pretty much all I said. I even talked about him biting back into the defence with runners hitting the holes outside him. Yes having better players around him should help that as well.


I’m not agreeing at all . I’m saying a lot of his “wrong options” is to do with the lack of trust in those around him to make a play, or , the defence not falling for the block because Brooks is the only real danger and he has the ball .
With the quality around him much improved , we should see a huge uptick.
But personally I think he is the 3rd best half in the game , behind Keary and DCE. He just gets a lot of hate , and I feel like I’m taking crazy pills , reading and listening to a lot of it .
He’s not Andrew Johns , but we definitely kept the right half imo. He’s no flat track bully like That other poser.

See you let your apparent belief that I am having a go at him cloud your response. I am very glad that Brooks is our half and agree he is one of the better halves in the game! Doesn't mean that he can't improve though.
 
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@Strongee said in [3 said:
the climate we are in

The Climate Has Changed Strongee - The Tigers have a Mongrel Dog pack at last and a big bopper back in BJ

Nah I meant in regards to the Cleary Era ie. Nepotism. We have to dominate on the scoreboard for brooksy to get a look in
 
Brooks had a great pass for Talau at one point. Beautiful line ball, with Talau hitting a half a hole.

And Brooks little kick for himself was lovely to watch. Class all the way. Even the grounding was spectacular. Some very good moments.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [3 said:
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@JoshColeman99 said in [3 said:
@cochise said in [3 said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [3 said:
His passing game might be ‘one dimensional’ but it’s effective he was one of the top try assisters last year according to Fox league. He took over in the second half and did good.



Yes he is near the top in try assists, but he hasn't seriously been in discussions for rep honours. That should be a huge goal of his now and to get there he needs to improve aspects of his already strong game!

His long kicking is the #1 thing that needs improving in my books. Needs to find the grass more and get it into the corners more. Needs to control a game with his kicking like Cronk and Smith can.

Agreed, his main play is to kick high.

When he gets the ball coming down right in front of the try line it’s a good kick but too often it’s further out than that. Needs to just stab it low into the corner sometimes

Maybe, but I have no doubt that the high kicks landing anywhere inside the twenty and up to about a third in, are at Maguire's instructions.
 

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