9/11 non-conspiracy

[AndTheKungFoSing]

The worst thing about September 11th was that those events became a catalyst for actions of retaliation of which hundreds of thousands of more people have suffered at the hands of a war of attrition of which there will be no "winner."

Sure did, we are quickly moving towards a world which promotes individuality and self needs ahead of community and social needs. It scares me. It becomes easy to justify the murder of others because we can separate ourselves from it through countless means of segmentation; class, religion, culture, ethnicity, colour and so on.

It amazes me the reaction from these sorts of events are not, "Why did this event take place?" instead it's always a vengeful reaction. It's not even an eye-for-an-eye it's more like a eye-for-fourty-eyes….

But... look at the past, every period in time post 60's have the one issue / event / conflict which keeps the middle and lower classes of society scared.

I honestly believe this is coming to a end though, I can't see this world continuing as is. The worlds economies are anything but economic! This is more obvious than ever, the gap between the rich and everyone else is growing wider faster than ever.... ALL while the world is now facing food shortages, oil shortages, failure of the monetary system and climate change...

WW3? We are f...ked, hopefully what comes from the chaos is a more mature and social minded approach to civilisation... although I doubt it.

 

[Rambo2714]

Can of worms/ grenade

S America is the most ruthless killer of innocent people in the world . It was only a matter of time before some of Their victims got together and gave them some of Thier own medicines .

I have seen the doco , and despite the Version it gives , I think it was more likely Islamic extremists .
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[coolcat]

Read the articles bob56\. All I'll say to look harder on the Internet. There have been bridges blow down in the wind. And I have to admit there are no building that have fallen down when a 747 has flow into them any where else in the world. Because it has never happened before. And it would only ever happen in new York because they only build with steel, and not any concrete that wouldn't have failed. They only place this happens is is New York. Because there is a monopoly on concrete there and is very expensive. If this happen is Sydney. When the plane hit the building, the wings would have been ripped off and fall to the ground with the fuel. Concrete doesn't sag under heat therefore you don't have structural collapse.

All the 911 truth web sites look for things that look odd or out of place. If you ask a structural engineer they would tell you what they think happened. The report the government released is flawed as well, because the beaucrates wrote the thing, when it should have been people that knew what they were talking about
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[CocaCola]

It's not the false flag attack the United States has carried out on its citizens.. Follow the money trail.. Its not the government who runs the US, its the Bankers.. Those elite bankers who own the federal reserve and other major banks in europe pre-select presidents and give key positions in government to members of there own private groups who support there interests..

All roads lead to Israel.

 

[happy_tiger]

It was not a government conspiracy, the attack was carried out by extremists. There's no way that a government who couldn't even cover up an affair scandal with a president, could pull this off.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_for_the_September_11_attacks

Yes and that president was no where near smart enough to carry off this sort of cover up

 

[alien]

i was over there in newyork when this happened - bad timing. americans are normally pretty patriotic but when this happened alot more american flags went up on cars and outside of houses. this event made them even more patriotic than what they already were. i remember the day so clear. 10 years have gone quick. i dont ever want to see people jumping out of skyscappers ever again. it makes me feel sick just thinking about it

 

[drummertim]

definetely a conspiracy! Bush is not smart enough to pull it off himself but he needed an excuse to get to iraq and allowed it to happen, he flew bin laden's relatives out of the us the next day so the fbi could interrogate them, pretty suss to me!

 

[LethalGurlie]

I visited New York in 2008 and i don't think there is a person who hasn't visited ground zero without getting a little choked up…and yeah i agree darkest day in history and one that hopefully somehow somwhere we can learn from...

 

[Bismark]

The big things for me that don't add up are:

1\. Why the building collapsed straight down, if it collapsed via fire damage, surely it should have toppled, or at least only half-collapsed.

2\. Building 7, no idea why that collapsed, buildings have been on fire overnight and with multiple floors and not collapsed.

3\. Pentagon attack, massive plane and small hole. I don't expect to see a plane-shaped hole, but surely it has to be bigger. Also, footage of the incident has never been released, with only frames showing an explosion, find that weird.

Just creeps me out that so many odd things can happen on one day.

 

[alien]

The big things for me that don't add up are:

1\. Why the building collapsed straight down, if it collapsed via fire damage, surely it should have toppled, or at least only half-collapsed.

2\. Building 7, no idea why that collapsed, buildings have been on fire overnight and with multiple floors and not collapsed.

3\. Pentagon attack, massive plane and small hole. I don't expect to see a plane-shaped hole, but surely it has to be bigger. Also, footage of the incident has never been released, with only frames showing an explosion, find that weird.

Just creeps me out that so many odd things can happen on one day.

1\. the weight of the floors made it go straight down

2\. building 7 may actually have been taken down with explosives when everyone was out

3\. the hole wasnt that small and im pretty sure big parts of the plane were on the ground. im not sure how much footage of that attack they actually have

 

[happy_tiger]

i was over there in newyork when this happened - bad timing. americans are normally pretty patriotic but when this happened alot more american flags went up on cars and outside of houses. this event made them even more patriotic than what they already were. i remember the day so clear. 10 years have gone quick. i dont ever want to see people jumping out of skyscappers ever again. it makes me feel sick just thinking about it

Alien That last comment I never want to see that again in my life also
Things must of been bad if you think thats your best option

 

[alien]

i was over there in newyork when this happened - bad timing. americans are normally pretty patriotic but when this happened alot more american flags went up on cars and outside of houses. this event made them even more patriotic than what they already were. i remember the day so clear. 10 years have gone quick. i dont ever want to see people jumping out of skyscappers ever again. it makes me feel sick just thinking about it

Alien That last comment I never want to see that again in my life also
Things must of been bad if you think thats your best option

yeah it would have been way too hot, and also too much smoke

 

[happy_tiger]

i was over there in newyork when this happened - bad timing. americans are normally pretty patriotic but when this happened alot more american flags went up on cars and outside of houses. this event made them even more patriotic than what they already were. i remember the day so clear. 10 years have gone quick. i dont ever want to see people jumping out of skyscappers ever again. it makes me feel sick just thinking about it

Alien That last comment I never want to see that again in my life also
Things must of been bad if you think thats your best option

yeah it would have been way too hot, and also too much smoke

No oxygen either I Imagine

 

[alien]

there is alot of stuff about 9/11 on tv tonight. free to air tv and pay tv

 

[cunno]

The worst thing about September 11th was that those events became a catalyst for actions of retaliation of which hundreds of thousands of more people have suffered at the hands of a war of attrition of which there will be no "winner."

Sure did, we are quickly moving towards a world which promotes individuality and self needs ahead of community and social needs. It scares me. It becomes easy to justify the murder of others because we can separate ourselves from it through countless means of segmentation; class, religion, culture, ethnicity, colour and so on.

It amazes me the reaction from these sorts of events are not, "Why did this event take place?" instead it's always a vengeful reaction. It's not even an eye-for-an-eye it's more like a eye-for-fourty-eyes….

But... look at the past, every period in time post 60's have the one issue / event / conflict which keeps the middle and lower classes of society scared.

I honestly believe this is coming to a end though, I can't see this world continuing as is. The worlds economies are anything but economic! This is more obvious than ever, the gap between the rich and everyone else is growing wider faster than ever.... ALL while the world is now facing food shortages, oil shortages, failure of the monetary system and climate change...

WW3? We are f...ked, hopefully what comes from the chaos is a more mature and social minded approach to civilisation... although I doubt it.

It would be surprising if anything of value comes out of WW3 Kaiser, let's hope it doesn't get to that and that the world powerbrokers are too concerned about amassing more wealth to let it happen.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Not sure who said it but a viable quote is "I know not with what weapons world war 3 will be fought with, but I do know world war 4 will be fought with sticks and stones…"
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[Chris]

I believe it was Albert Einstein CB

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I believe it was Albert Einstein CB

Cheers Chris.

I thought it may have been, but didn't want to quote him in case I was wrong! In retrospect a Google search wouldn't have been out of order!

 

[alien]

Did anyone else watch 9/11: Heroes Of The 88th Floor last night?

 

[pacey]

For me its the Pentagon incident that sounds suspicious..
I watched a documentary.. and the pentagon incident didnt make sense..

Instead of me saying it , heres some pictures that make more sense
http://911lies.org/911_pentagon_attack_damage.jpg

http://911lies.org/images2/entrance_pentagon_missile_911.jpg
How does a Boeing 757, constructed from lightweight aluminum, penetrate over 9 ft. of steel reinforced concrete with piercing clean round holes, and leave no evidence of itself?
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If you want to read on..
http://911lies.org/full_size_911_pentagon_attack_damage5.html