A crucial period for Madge...

@hodgo said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200101) said:
I think the observant supporter knows our squad is ordinary. I also agree that there is a culture of failure. During that time as fans, we have asked for a few things that i can recall
Guts - now whether people see it or not I have seen a team that has absolutely guts out performances in games that would have been embarrassing in the past. Have we done that every week, no with this week as an example, but you can see some steel especially defensively that has not existed in the past. And that is with honestly a low tier squad
Accountability- I distinctly remember the vast majority of this forum demanding players be dropped and held accountable for their play. MAdge is doing that. I saw a relevant post above that said how do players get back in and its spot on. Unfortunately, the only judgment can be made at training due the current situation.
Depth and youth- we have regularly had a poor lower grade set up with all our energy going to our top grade. Finally, we are ridding our selves of average journeymen and investing in youth. Yes its the long game but if we get a couple of gun backs and forwards over the next few years its a master stroke.

I see madge doing what he can to turn around the club. He probably needs to go through all the auxiliary staff as well. Just by what the people on the forum observe and talk about we can see its a monster task.
The simple truth is we actually need to all-in on madge IMO. Another coaching change could signal our death knell. And even if he isnt your first choice who is there that is actually better honestly. Your not getting a Bellamy, a Robinson.

Absolutely on the money mate agree on every point.
 
@Hangonaminute said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200042) said:
There's one player that nobody seems to mention, he seems like a bit of a forum favourite and I've never really been sold on him and I think it's about time someone called him out and that someone may as well by me, so here goes...............

Aloiai

This guy has enough NRL experience now and has been at the club long enough to become a leader of our pack when we desperately need one but he just isn't and I don't think he'll ever be.
The opportunity for him to become one is there and has been there for a while now, but I just don't think he's got it in him.

I've reserved judgement on Josh and waited for him to become a regular starter which he has become but now I feel I've seen enough of him to know that he's not a top line footballer.

He's not our biggest problem but I can't see us doing much better if he's a part of our future starting pack, sorry

For whatever reason he goes badly off the boil the back of every season. First ten rounds Josh looks like an Origin forward, last ten he looks like a guy Parramatta cut. It is hard to work out, bug suggests fatigue / work rate is too much. He definitely needs more help. He is the only prop we have who really charges at the line.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200102) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200086) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200067) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200049) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200027) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200016) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199990) said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199977) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199890) said:
There’s no coach turning this team around in less than 3 years. Madge doing the best with the crap he has been given. His recruitment has been smart **and the club as a whole is building,** unfortunately a tough draw and some poor performances will not make us look good on the ladder come the end of the year but as a whole I think the club is building the right way.

He’s going about things a whole lot better than our last couple coaches. He’s playing the long game which takes patience but in our current predicament it’s the best option. We can’t afford a new coach, extend Madge one more season and see how he goes.

Desperately need to keep cleaning out the rubbish from our cap, he’s trying his best and will continue to try. I’m happy he’s tough and willing to yell and drop players, a soft coach wouldn’t be able to change our culture I think

He’s not perfect and has made mistakes but he’s our best option

Seriously Josh. Can you please pinpoint and articulate exactly where and how we are building as a club because mate all I see are the same performances, the same words, the same excuses, the same situations roll out every week every year. There is no evidence that I see that we are building. We are doing stuff - yes. But we are not building. In fact it could be argued we are regressing.

We are investing in youth, cleaning up our salary cap, new training facilities coming, Madge’s recruitment has been good, training at a higher level than previous years, while there’s been hiccups we have showed more heart and resilience in some perfomances this year then we have the last 3 seasons.

Madge is playing the long game and it will take a long time, the steps he has taken are the best ones you could do. He’s been a lot smarter than previous coaches and has a genuine eye on the long term future of the club which can be seen by trying to realign with St Greg’s among other things.

Unfortunately we will probably end up 10th or 11th on the ladder. Hard draw and some poor performances have lead us there but there isn’t an instant fix to our problems

Jennings say hi ?
Also playing Doohey at the back when blind Freddy can see he ain’t a fullback

Madge extended Brooks who’s useless

Gave Lawrence another year who’s useless ..

Gives momirovski another 2 years who’s useless

Gives a total Gronk the captaincy who’s useless

The list goes on ...
Even Taylorball was more effective than this crap !

I can’t take you seriously if you think Taylor is a better option than Madge.

Jennings was a good signing at the time who didn’t work out, not every signing will, you expect the coach to be perfect? Doueihi may not be a permanent fullback but is our best option at the moment. When brooks was resigned he was back to back player of the year. Momirovski is a solid player. Can’t agree with re-signing Lawrence and the Mbye captaincy might not seem right to us but Madge has his reasons.

Look at the bigger picture mate. Madge is working towards slowly building us into a good club which is the only option, and I’m pretty sure the club will stick by him. Impossible to expect instant results

Non of the players we’ve mentioned will take us to the big dance ...
Madge is pissing into the wind and he knows it !
We have Brooks until 2023
Mbye until 2022
So what does he do with them ??

He can’t even get them to do the basics right ...
Tackle
Line speed
Kick chase

Two weeks ago we did all those things very well and had been for quite a few weeks. While we’ve been poor the last two weeks let’s not act like they’ve been like this all season.

You seem to have a very short memory a lot of the time. When things are bad you forget the good that was not too long ago, I hope you don’t view your whole life like that

Madge is a poor man manager and the majority of the run on side are his signings ...
So tell me what’s he going to do with Mbye and Brooks ?

With Mbye? No idea. He’s on huge money and I doubt anyone takes his contract. I can guarantee Madge would much rather have that money to spend elsewhere. If we sign a better centre then Mbye can be a bench utility.

Madge will give brooks another chance. He is a fan of brooksy and while his form has been down this year he is a good half when at his best.

I don’t think Madge is a poor man manager it just depends on the player. All the players say he’s very honest with the players and expects a lot out of them. Not every player will appreciate the honesty and will take it as an insult but some players will take it and work on things they need to. Most players seem pretty happy with Madge

And in the mean time we’ll blunder and fumble for the rest of this year and next year only to see quality players sign with other teams because we’re a basket case
 
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200131) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200102) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200086) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200067) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200049) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200027) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200016) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199990) said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199977) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199890) said:
There’s no coach turning this team around in less than 3 years. Madge doing the best with the crap he has been given. His recruitment has been smart **and the club as a whole is building,** unfortunately a tough draw and some poor performances will not make us look good on the ladder come the end of the year but as a whole I think the club is building the right way.

He’s going about things a whole lot better than our last couple coaches. He’s playing the long game which takes patience but in our current predicament it’s the best option. We can’t afford a new coach, extend Madge one more season and see how he goes.

Desperately need to keep cleaning out the rubbish from our cap, he’s trying his best and will continue to try. I’m happy he’s tough and willing to yell and drop players, a soft coach wouldn’t be able to change our culture I think

He’s not perfect and has made mistakes but he’s our best option

Seriously Josh. Can you please pinpoint and articulate exactly where and how we are building as a club because mate all I see are the same performances, the same words, the same excuses, the same situations roll out every week every year. There is no evidence that I see that we are building. We are doing stuff - yes. But we are not building. In fact it could be argued we are regressing.

We are investing in youth, cleaning up our salary cap, new training facilities coming, Madge’s recruitment has been good, training at a higher level than previous years, while there’s been hiccups we have showed more heart and resilience in some perfomances this year then we have the last 3 seasons.

Madge is playing the long game and it will take a long time, the steps he has taken are the best ones you could do. He’s been a lot smarter than previous coaches and has a genuine eye on the long term future of the club which can be seen by trying to realign with St Greg’s among other things.

Unfortunately we will probably end up 10th or 11th on the ladder. Hard draw and some poor performances have lead us there but there isn’t an instant fix to our problems

Jennings say hi ?
Also playing Doohey at the back when blind Freddy can see he ain’t a fullback

Madge extended Brooks who’s useless

Gave Lawrence another year who’s useless ..

Gives momirovski another 2 years who’s useless

Gives a total Gronk the captaincy who’s useless

The list goes on ...
Even Taylorball was more effective than this crap !

I can’t take you seriously if you think Taylor is a better option than Madge.

Jennings was a good signing at the time who didn’t work out, not every signing will, you expect the coach to be perfect? Doueihi may not be a permanent fullback but is our best option at the moment. When brooks was resigned he was back to back player of the year. Momirovski is a solid player. Can’t agree with re-signing Lawrence and the Mbye captaincy might not seem right to us but Madge has his reasons.

Look at the bigger picture mate. Madge is working towards slowly building us into a good club which is the only option, and I’m pretty sure the club will stick by him. Impossible to expect instant results

Non of the players we’ve mentioned will take us to the big dance ...
Madge is pissing into the wind and he knows it !
We have Brooks until 2023
Mbye until 2022
So what does he do with them ??

He can’t even get them to do the basics right ...
Tackle
Line speed
Kick chase

Two weeks ago we did all those things very well and had been for quite a few weeks. While we’ve been poor the last two weeks let’s not act like they’ve been like this all season.

You seem to have a very short memory a lot of the time. When things are bad you forget the good that was not too long ago, I hope you don’t view your whole life like that

Madge is a poor man manager and the majority of the run on side are his signings ...
So tell me what’s he going to do with Mbye and Brooks ?

With Mbye? No idea. He’s on huge money and I doubt anyone takes his contract. I can guarantee Madge would much rather have that money to spend elsewhere. If we sign a better centre then Mbye can be a bench utility.

Madge will give brooks another chance. He is a fan of brooksy and while his form has been down this year he is a good half when at his best.

I don’t think Madge is a poor man manager it just depends on the player. All the players say he’s very honest with the players and expects a lot out of them. Not every player will appreciate the honesty and will take it as an insult but some players will take it and work on things they need to. Most players seem pretty happy with Madge

And in the mean time we’ll blunder and fumble for the rest of this year and next year only to see quality players sign with other teams because we’re a basket case

We don’t sign big name players and we won’t until we start making finals unfortunately. Gotta keep unearthing youngsters/guys who need a shot at first grade.

Need to look at England and Fiji more too! It works so well for other clubs and we never seem to do it.
 
@Hangonaminute said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200042) said:
There's one player that nobody seems to mention, he seems like a bit of a forum favourite and I've never really been sold on him and I think it's about time someone called him out and that someone may as well by me, so here goes...............

Aloiai

This guy has enough NRL experience now and has been at the club long enough to become a leader of our pack when we desperately need one but he just isn't and I don't think he'll ever be.
The opportunity for him to become one is there and has been there for a while now, but I just don't think he's got it in him.

I've reserved judgement on Josh and waited for him to become a regular starter which he has become but now I feel I've seen enough of him to know that he's not a top line footballer.

He's not our biggest problem but I can't see us doing much better if he's a part of our future starting pack, sorry

Yep, he's a bench prop. That's it. Hasn't improved. Still drops the ball too much, is weak in defence and incredibly inconsistent. We need to aim higher.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200122) said:
Idk man. So far he’s not showing any better results than Potter or JT

Change my mind

JT had a squad that consisted of JAC, Taupau the Big 4.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200134) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200131) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200102) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200086) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200067) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200049) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200027) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200016) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199990) said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199977) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199890) said:
There’s no coach turning this team around in less than 3 years. Madge doing the best with the crap he has been given. His recruitment has been smart **and the club as a whole is building,** unfortunately a tough draw and some poor performances will not make us look good on the ladder come the end of the year but as a whole I think the club is building the right way.

He’s going about things a whole lot better than our last couple coaches. He’s playing the long game which takes patience but in our current predicament it’s the best option. We can’t afford a new coach, extend Madge one more season and see how he goes.

Desperately need to keep cleaning out the rubbish from our cap, he’s trying his best and will continue to try. I’m happy he’s tough and willing to yell and drop players, a soft coach wouldn’t be able to change our culture I think

He’s not perfect and has made mistakes but he’s our best option

Seriously Josh. Can you please pinpoint and articulate exactly where and how we are building as a club because mate all I see are the same performances, the same words, the same excuses, the same situations roll out every week every year. There is no evidence that I see that we are building. We are doing stuff - yes. But we are not building. In fact it could be argued we are regressing.

We are investing in youth, cleaning up our salary cap, new training facilities coming, Madge’s recruitment has been good, training at a higher level than previous years, while there’s been hiccups we have showed more heart and resilience in some perfomances this year then we have the last 3 seasons.

Madge is playing the long game and it will take a long time, the steps he has taken are the best ones you could do. He’s been a lot smarter than previous coaches and has a genuine eye on the long term future of the club which can be seen by trying to realign with St Greg’s among other things.

Unfortunately we will probably end up 10th or 11th on the ladder. Hard draw and some poor performances have lead us there but there isn’t an instant fix to our problems

Jennings say hi ?
Also playing Doohey at the back when blind Freddy can see he ain’t a fullback

Madge extended Brooks who’s useless

Gave Lawrence another year who’s useless ..

Gives momirovski another 2 years who’s useless

Gives a total Gronk the captaincy who’s useless

The list goes on ...
Even Taylorball was more effective than this crap !

I can’t take you seriously if you think Taylor is a better option than Madge.

Jennings was a good signing at the time who didn’t work out, not every signing will, you expect the coach to be perfect? Doueihi may not be a permanent fullback but is our best option at the moment. When brooks was resigned he was back to back player of the year. Momirovski is a solid player. Can’t agree with re-signing Lawrence and the Mbye captaincy might not seem right to us but Madge has his reasons.

Look at the bigger picture mate. Madge is working towards slowly building us into a good club which is the only option, and I’m pretty sure the club will stick by him. Impossible to expect instant results

Non of the players we’ve mentioned will take us to the big dance ...
Madge is pissing into the wind and he knows it !
We have Brooks until 2023
Mbye until 2022
So what does he do with them ??

He can’t even get them to do the basics right ...
Tackle
Line speed
Kick chase

Two weeks ago we did all those things very well and had been for quite a few weeks. While we’ve been poor the last two weeks let’s not act like they’ve been like this all season.

You seem to have a very short memory a lot of the time. When things are bad you forget the good that was not too long ago, I hope you don’t view your whole life like that

Madge is a poor man manager and the majority of the run on side are his signings ...
So tell me what’s he going to do with Mbye and Brooks ?

With Mbye? No idea. He’s on huge money and I doubt anyone takes his contract. I can guarantee Madge would much rather have that money to spend elsewhere. If we sign a better centre then Mbye can be a bench utility.

Madge will give brooks another chance. He is a fan of brooksy and while his form has been down this year he is a good half when at his best.

I don’t think Madge is a poor man manager it just depends on the player. All the players say he’s very honest with the players and expects a lot out of them. Not every player will appreciate the honesty and will take it as an insult but some players will take it and work on things they need to. Most players seem pretty happy with Madge

And in the mean time we’ll blunder and fumble for the rest of this year and next year only to see quality players sign with other teams because we’re a basket case

We don’t sign big name players and we won’t until we start making finals unfortunately. Gotta keep unearthing youngsters/guys who need a shot at first grade.

Need to look at England and Fiji more too! It works so well for other clubs and we never seem to do it.

Why were the Titans able to sign Tino and Fifita and the Dogs able to sign Luke Thompson and Cotric but we can’t? Theyre worse than we are and we are the team with the premiership winning coach
 
It is an important time for Madge. He needs to offload all our deadwood wherever he can. Paying as much as we need to. Brooks possibly survives another year to give Camroux and Madden time to develop but Benji, Reynolds, Mbye, Packer, possibly BJ.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200138) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200122) said:
Idk man. So far he’s not showing any better results than Potter or JT

Change my mind

You’re 100% right.

I know JT is the most hated individual in the JV history, but it’s the cold hard truth. Sure we’ve looked like we’re on the up here and there, but there were times we looked like that under Cleary too. Overall it’s the same old crap, different day.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200141) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200134) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200131) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200102) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200086) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200067) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200049) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200027) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200016) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199990) said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199977) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199890) said:
There’s no coach turning this team around in less than 3 years. Madge doing the best with the crap he has been given. His recruitment has been smart **and the club as a whole is building,** unfortunately a tough draw and some poor performances will not make us look good on the ladder come the end of the year but as a whole I think the club is building the right way.

He’s going about things a whole lot better than our last couple coaches. He’s playing the long game which takes patience but in our current predicament it’s the best option. We can’t afford a new coach, extend Madge one more season and see how he goes.

Desperately need to keep cleaning out the rubbish from our cap, he’s trying his best and will continue to try. I’m happy he’s tough and willing to yell and drop players, a soft coach wouldn’t be able to change our culture I think

He’s not perfect and has made mistakes but he’s our best option

Seriously Josh. Can you please pinpoint and articulate exactly where and how we are building as a club because mate all I see are the same performances, the same words, the same excuses, the same situations roll out every week every year. There is no evidence that I see that we are building. We are doing stuff - yes. But we are not building. In fact it could be argued we are regressing.

We are investing in youth, cleaning up our salary cap, new training facilities coming, Madge’s recruitment has been good, training at a higher level than previous years, while there’s been hiccups we have showed more heart and resilience in some perfomances this year then we have the last 3 seasons.

Madge is playing the long game and it will take a long time, the steps he has taken are the best ones you could do. He’s been a lot smarter than previous coaches and has a genuine eye on the long term future of the club which can be seen by trying to realign with St Greg’s among other things.

Unfortunately we will probably end up 10th or 11th on the ladder. Hard draw and some poor performances have lead us there but there isn’t an instant fix to our problems

Jennings say hi ?
Also playing Doohey at the back when blind Freddy can see he ain’t a fullback

Madge extended Brooks who’s useless

Gave Lawrence another year who’s useless ..

Gives momirovski another 2 years who’s useless

Gives a total Gronk the captaincy who’s useless

The list goes on ...
Even Taylorball was more effective than this crap !

I can’t take you seriously if you think Taylor is a better option than Madge.

Jennings was a good signing at the time who didn’t work out, not every signing will, you expect the coach to be perfect? Doueihi may not be a permanent fullback but is our best option at the moment. When brooks was resigned he was back to back player of the year. Momirovski is a solid player. Can’t agree with re-signing Lawrence and the Mbye captaincy might not seem right to us but Madge has his reasons.

Look at the bigger picture mate. Madge is working towards slowly building us into a good club which is the only option, and I’m pretty sure the club will stick by him. Impossible to expect instant results

Non of the players we’ve mentioned will take us to the big dance ...
Madge is pissing into the wind and he knows it !
We have Brooks until 2023
Mbye until 2022
So what does he do with them ??

He can’t even get them to do the basics right ...
Tackle
Line speed
Kick chase

Two weeks ago we did all those things very well and had been for quite a few weeks. While we’ve been poor the last two weeks let’s not act like they’ve been like this all season.

You seem to have a very short memory a lot of the time. When things are bad you forget the good that was not too long ago, I hope you don’t view your whole life like that

Madge is a poor man manager and the majority of the run on side are his signings ...
So tell me what’s he going to do with Mbye and Brooks ?

With Mbye? No idea. He’s on huge money and I doubt anyone takes his contract. I can guarantee Madge would much rather have that money to spend elsewhere. If we sign a better centre then Mbye can be a bench utility.

Madge will give brooks another chance. He is a fan of brooksy and while his form has been down this year he is a good half when at his best.

I don’t think Madge is a poor man manager it just depends on the player. All the players say he’s very honest with the players and expects a lot out of them. Not every player will appreciate the honesty and will take it as an insult but some players will take it and work on things they need to. Most players seem pretty happy with Madge

And in the mean time we’ll blunder and fumble for the rest of this year and next year only to see quality players sign with other teams because we’re a basket case

We don’t sign big name players and we won’t until we start making finals unfortunately. Gotta keep unearthing youngsters/guys who need a shot at first grade.

Need to look at England and Fiji more too! It works so well for other clubs and we never seem to do it.

Why were the Titans able to sign Tino and Fifita and the Dogs able to sign Luke Thompson and Cotric but we can’t? Theyre worse than we are and we are the team with the premiership winning coach

One thing all those players have in common is that they’re on huge money. Unfortunately our money that should be used on big name players is being spent on Packer, Mbye and Reynolds.

JAC is our best shot at an origin level player signing. I think we will have a good shot at him. Souths don’t have the money, bulldogs already spending big on a winger. Roosters will probably snatch him up though
 
@avocadoontoast said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200151) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200148) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200141) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200134) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200131) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200102) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200086) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200067) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200049) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200027) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200016) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199990) said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199977) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199890) said:
There’s no coach turning this team around in less than 3 years. Madge doing the best with the crap he has been given. His recruitment has been smart **and the club as a whole is building,** unfortunately a tough draw and some poor performances will not make us look good on the ladder come the end of the year but as a whole I think the club is building the right way.

He’s going about things a whole lot better than our last couple coaches. He’s playing the long game which takes patience but in our current predicament it’s the best option. We can’t afford a new coach, extend Madge one more season and see how he goes.

Desperately need to keep cleaning out the rubbish from our cap, he’s trying his best and will continue to try. I’m happy he’s tough and willing to yell and drop players, a soft coach wouldn’t be able to change our culture I think

He’s not perfect and has made mistakes but he’s our best option

Seriously Josh. Can you please pinpoint and articulate exactly where and how we are building as a club because mate all I see are the same performances, the same words, the same excuses, the same situations roll out every week every year. There is no evidence that I see that we are building. We are doing stuff - yes. But we are not building. In fact it could be argued we are regressing.

We are investing in youth, cleaning up our salary cap, new training facilities coming, Madge’s recruitment has been good, training at a higher level than previous years, while there’s been hiccups we have showed more heart and resilience in some perfomances this year then we have the last 3 seasons.

Madge is playing the long game and it will take a long time, the steps he has taken are the best ones you could do. He’s been a lot smarter than previous coaches and has a genuine eye on the long term future of the club which can be seen by trying to realign with St Greg’s among other things.

Unfortunately we will probably end up 10th or 11th on the ladder. Hard draw and some poor performances have lead us there but there isn’t an instant fix to our problems

Jennings say hi ?
Also playing Doohey at the back when blind Freddy can see he ain’t a fullback

Madge extended Brooks who’s useless

Gave Lawrence another year who’s useless ..

Gives momirovski another 2 years who’s useless

Gives a total Gronk the captaincy who’s useless

The list goes on ...
Even Taylorball was more effective than this crap !

I can’t take you seriously if you think Taylor is a better option than Madge.

Jennings was a good signing at the time who didn’t work out, not every signing will, you expect the coach to be perfect? Doueihi may not be a permanent fullback but is our best option at the moment. When brooks was resigned he was back to back player of the year. Momirovski is a solid player. Can’t agree with re-signing Lawrence and the Mbye captaincy might not seem right to us but Madge has his reasons.

Look at the bigger picture mate. Madge is working towards slowly building us into a good club which is the only option, and I’m pretty sure the club will stick by him. Impossible to expect instant results

Non of the players we’ve mentioned will take us to the big dance ...
Madge is pissing into the wind and he knows it !
We have Brooks until 2023
Mbye until 2022
So what does he do with them ??

He can’t even get them to do the basics right ...
Tackle
Line speed
Kick chase

Two weeks ago we did all those things very well and had been for quite a few weeks. While we’ve been poor the last two weeks let’s not act like they’ve been like this all season.

You seem to have a very short memory a lot of the time. When things are bad you forget the good that was not too long ago, I hope you don’t view your whole life like that

Madge is a poor man manager and the majority of the run on side are his signings ...
So tell me what’s he going to do with Mbye and Brooks ?

With Mbye? No idea. He’s on huge money and I doubt anyone takes his contract. I can guarantee Madge would much rather have that money to spend elsewhere. If we sign a better centre then Mbye can be a bench utility.

Madge will give brooks another chance. He is a fan of brooksy and while his form has been down this year he is a good half when at his best.

I don’t think Madge is a poor man manager it just depends on the player. All the players say he’s very honest with the players and expects a lot out of them. Not every player will appreciate the honesty and will take it as an insult but some players will take it and work on things they need to. Most players seem pretty happy with Madge

And in the mean time we’ll blunder and fumble for the rest of this year and next year only to see quality players sign with other teams because we’re a basket case

We don’t sign big name players and we won’t until we start making finals unfortunately. Gotta keep unearthing youngsters/guys who need a shot at first grade.

Need to look at England and Fiji more too! It works so well for other clubs and we never seem to do it.

Why were the Titans able to sign Tino and Fifita and the Dogs able to sign Luke Thompson and Cotric but we can’t? Theyre worse than we are and we are the team with the premiership winning coach

Maybe they don’t like being talked to like they’re shit

Newcastle spooned 3 in a row but could sign proven performers
Parra the same ..

we must be the least appealing team for players.

For players that want an origin jersey or a premiership, yeah we are one of the worst choices. Even bulldogs were in a grand final not that long ago.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200151) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200148) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200141) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200134) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200131) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200102) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200086) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200067) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200049) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200027) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200016) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199990) said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199977) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199890) said:
There’s no coach turning this team around in less than 3 years. Madge doing the best with the crap he has been given. His recruitment has been smart **and the club as a whole is building,** unfortunately a tough draw and some poor performances will not make us look good on the ladder come the end of the year but as a whole I think the club is building the right way.

He’s going about things a whole lot better than our last couple coaches. He’s playing the long game which takes patience but in our current predicament it’s the best option. We can’t afford a new coach, extend Madge one more season and see how he goes.

Desperately need to keep cleaning out the rubbish from our cap, he’s trying his best and will continue to try. I’m happy he’s tough and willing to yell and drop players, a soft coach wouldn’t be able to change our culture I think

He’s not perfect and has made mistakes but he’s our best option

Seriously Josh. Can you please pinpoint and articulate exactly where and how we are building as a club because mate all I see are the same performances, the same words, the same excuses, the same situations roll out every week every year. There is no evidence that I see that we are building. We are doing stuff - yes. But we are not building. In fact it could be argued we are regressing.

We are investing in youth, cleaning up our salary cap, new training facilities coming, Madge’s recruitment has been good, training at a higher level than previous years, while there’s been hiccups we have showed more heart and resilience in some perfomances this year then we have the last 3 seasons.

Madge is playing the long game and it will take a long time, the steps he has taken are the best ones you could do. He’s been a lot smarter than previous coaches and has a genuine eye on the long term future of the club which can be seen by trying to realign with St Greg’s among other things.

Unfortunately we will probably end up 10th or 11th on the ladder. Hard draw and some poor performances have lead us there but there isn’t an instant fix to our problems

Jennings say hi ?
Also playing Doohey at the back when blind Freddy can see he ain’t a fullback

Madge extended Brooks who’s useless

Gave Lawrence another year who’s useless ..

Gives momirovski another 2 years who’s useless

Gives a total Gronk the captaincy who’s useless

The list goes on ...
Even Taylorball was more effective than this crap !

I can’t take you seriously if you think Taylor is a better option than Madge.

Jennings was a good signing at the time who didn’t work out, not every signing will, you expect the coach to be perfect? Doueihi may not be a permanent fullback but is our best option at the moment. When brooks was resigned he was back to back player of the year. Momirovski is a solid player. Can’t agree with re-signing Lawrence and the Mbye captaincy might not seem right to us but Madge has his reasons.

Look at the bigger picture mate. Madge is working towards slowly building us into a good club which is the only option, and I’m pretty sure the club will stick by him. Impossible to expect instant results

Non of the players we’ve mentioned will take us to the big dance ...
Madge is pissing into the wind and he knows it !
We have Brooks until 2023
Mbye until 2022
So what does he do with them ??

He can’t even get them to do the basics right ...
Tackle
Line speed
Kick chase

Two weeks ago we did all those things very well and had been for quite a few weeks. While we’ve been poor the last two weeks let’s not act like they’ve been like this all season.

You seem to have a very short memory a lot of the time. When things are bad you forget the good that was not too long ago, I hope you don’t view your whole life like that

Madge is a poor man manager and the majority of the run on side are his signings ...
So tell me what’s he going to do with Mbye and Brooks ?

With Mbye? No idea. He’s on huge money and I doubt anyone takes his contract. I can guarantee Madge would much rather have that money to spend elsewhere. If we sign a better centre then Mbye can be a bench utility.

Madge will give brooks another chance. He is a fan of brooksy and while his form has been down this year he is a good half when at his best.

I don’t think Madge is a poor man manager it just depends on the player. All the players say he’s very honest with the players and expects a lot out of them. Not every player will appreciate the honesty and will take it as an insult but some players will take it and work on things they need to. Most players seem pretty happy with Madge

And in the mean time we’ll blunder and fumble for the rest of this year and next year only to see quality players sign with other teams because we’re a basket case

We don’t sign big name players and we won’t until we start making finals unfortunately. Gotta keep unearthing youngsters/guys who need a shot at first grade.

Need to look at England and Fiji more too! It works so well for other clubs and we never seem to do it.

Why were the Titans able to sign Tino and Fifita and the Dogs able to sign Luke Thompson and Cotric but we can’t? Theyre worse than we are and we are the team with the premiership winning coach

Maybe they don’t like being talked to like they’re shit

Newcastle spooned 3 in a row but could sign proven performers
Parra the same ..

we must be the least appealing team for players.

Imagine the chat amongst NRL players ...

Me .. hey Avo ! ..
I’m going to West’s Tigers .

You ... Spits coffee out ..
Bwahahah ???
 
It’s hard to ignore really. You can throw Parra into that mix. Years of mediocrity, yet they were never seen as a dead end street for players. Yet for so many years, we’ve been in positions where only 2 or 3 good pick ups could put us over, but it never happens.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200141) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200134) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200131) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200102) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200086) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200067) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200049) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200027) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200016) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199990) said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199977) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199890) said:
There’s no coach turning this team around in less than 3 years. Madge doing the best with the crap he has been given. His recruitment has been smart **and the club as a whole is building,** unfortunately a tough draw and some poor performances will not make us look good on the ladder come the end of the year but as a whole I think the club is building the right way.

He’s going about things a whole lot better than our last couple coaches. He’s playing the long game which takes patience but in our current predicament it’s the best option. We can’t afford a new coach, extend Madge one more season and see how he goes.

Desperately need to keep cleaning out the rubbish from our cap, he’s trying his best and will continue to try. I’m happy he’s tough and willing to yell and drop players, a soft coach wouldn’t be able to change our culture I think

He’s not perfect and has made mistakes but he’s our best option

Seriously Josh. Can you please pinpoint and articulate exactly where and how we are building as a club because mate all I see are the same performances, the same words, the same excuses, the same situations roll out every week every year. There is no evidence that I see that we are building. We are doing stuff - yes. But we are not building. In fact it could be argued we are regressing.

We are investing in youth, cleaning up our salary cap, new training facilities coming, Madge’s recruitment has been good, training at a higher level than previous years, while there’s been hiccups we have showed more heart and resilience in some perfomances this year then we have the last 3 seasons.

Madge is playing the long game and it will take a long time, the steps he has taken are the best ones you could do. He’s been a lot smarter than previous coaches and has a genuine eye on the long term future of the club which can be seen by trying to realign with St Greg’s among other things.

Unfortunately we will probably end up 10th or 11th on the ladder. Hard draw and some poor performances have lead us there but there isn’t an instant fix to our problems

Jennings say hi ?
Also playing Doohey at the back when blind Freddy can see he ain’t a fullback

Madge extended Brooks who’s useless

Gave Lawrence another year who’s useless ..

Gives momirovski another 2 years who’s useless

Gives a total Gronk the captaincy who’s useless

The list goes on ...
Even Taylorball was more effective than this crap !

I can’t take you seriously if you think Taylor is a better option than Madge.

Jennings was a good signing at the time who didn’t work out, not every signing will, you expect the coach to be perfect? Doueihi may not be a permanent fullback but is our best option at the moment. When brooks was resigned he was back to back player of the year. Momirovski is a solid player. Can’t agree with re-signing Lawrence and the Mbye captaincy might not seem right to us but Madge has his reasons.

Look at the bigger picture mate. Madge is working towards slowly building us into a good club which is the only option, and I’m pretty sure the club will stick by him. Impossible to expect instant results

Non of the players we’ve mentioned will take us to the big dance ...
Madge is pissing into the wind and he knows it !
We have Brooks until 2023
Mbye until 2022
So what does he do with them ??

He can’t even get them to do the basics right ...
Tackle
Line speed
Kick chase

Two weeks ago we did all those things very well and had been for quite a few weeks. While we’ve been poor the last two weeks let’s not act like they’ve been like this all season.

You seem to have a very short memory a lot of the time. When things are bad you forget the good that was not too long ago, I hope you don’t view your whole life like that

Madge is a poor man manager and the majority of the run on side are his signings ...
So tell me what’s he going to do with Mbye and Brooks ?

With Mbye? No idea. He’s on huge money and I doubt anyone takes his contract. I can guarantee Madge would much rather have that money to spend elsewhere. If we sign a better centre then Mbye can be a bench utility.

Madge will give brooks another chance. He is a fan of brooksy and while his form has been down this year he is a good half when at his best.

I don’t think Madge is a poor man manager it just depends on the player. All the players say he’s very honest with the players and expects a lot out of them. Not every player will appreciate the honesty and will take it as an insult but some players will take it and work on things they need to. Most players seem pretty happy with Madge

And in the mean time we’ll blunder and fumble for the rest of this year and next year only to see quality players sign with other teams because we’re a basket case

We don’t sign big name players and we won’t until we start making finals unfortunately. Gotta keep unearthing youngsters/guys who need a shot at first grade.

Need to look at England and Fiji more too! It works so well for other clubs and we never seem to do it.

Why were the Titans able to sign Tino and Fifita and the Dogs able to sign Luke Thompson and Cotric but we can’t? Theyre worse than we are and we are the team with the premiership winning coach

id say money madge sound frugal and it would be easy to be gunshy after our current big 4s contracts
 
@hodgo said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200169) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200141) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200134) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200131) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200102) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200086) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200067) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200049) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200027) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200016) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199990) said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199977) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199890) said:
There’s no coach turning this team around in less than 3 years. Madge doing the best with the crap he has been given. His recruitment has been smart **and the club as a whole is building,** unfortunately a tough draw and some poor performances will not make us look good on the ladder come the end of the year but as a whole I think the club is building the right way.

He’s going about things a whole lot better than our last couple coaches. He’s playing the long game which takes patience but in our current predicament it’s the best option. We can’t afford a new coach, extend Madge one more season and see how he goes.

Desperately need to keep cleaning out the rubbish from our cap, he’s trying his best and will continue to try. I’m happy he’s tough and willing to yell and drop players, a soft coach wouldn’t be able to change our culture I think

He’s not perfect and has made mistakes but he’s our best option

Seriously Josh. Can you please pinpoint and articulate exactly where and how we are building as a club because mate all I see are the same performances, the same words, the same excuses, the same situations roll out every week every year. There is no evidence that I see that we are building. We are doing stuff - yes. But we are not building. In fact it could be argued we are regressing.

We are investing in youth, cleaning up our salary cap, new training facilities coming, Madge’s recruitment has been good, training at a higher level than previous years, while there’s been hiccups we have showed more heart and resilience in some perfomances this year then we have the last 3 seasons.

Madge is playing the long game and it will take a long time, the steps he has taken are the best ones you could do. He’s been a lot smarter than previous coaches and has a genuine eye on the long term future of the club which can be seen by trying to realign with St Greg’s among other things.

Unfortunately we will probably end up 10th or 11th on the ladder. Hard draw and some poor performances have lead us there but there isn’t an instant fix to our problems

Jennings say hi ?
Also playing Doohey at the back when blind Freddy can see he ain’t a fullback

Madge extended Brooks who’s useless

Gave Lawrence another year who’s useless ..

Gives momirovski another 2 years who’s useless

Gives a total Gronk the captaincy who’s useless

The list goes on ...
Even Taylorball was more effective than this crap !

I can’t take you seriously if you think Taylor is a better option than Madge.

Jennings was a good signing at the time who didn’t work out, not every signing will, you expect the coach to be perfect? Doueihi may not be a permanent fullback but is our best option at the moment. When brooks was resigned he was back to back player of the year. Momirovski is a solid player. Can’t agree with re-signing Lawrence and the Mbye captaincy might not seem right to us but Madge has his reasons.

Look at the bigger picture mate. Madge is working towards slowly building us into a good club which is the only option, and I’m pretty sure the club will stick by him. Impossible to expect instant results

Non of the players we’ve mentioned will take us to the big dance ...
Madge is pissing into the wind and he knows it !
We have Brooks until 2023
Mbye until 2022
So what does he do with them ??

He can’t even get them to do the basics right ...
Tackle
Line speed
Kick chase

Two weeks ago we did all those things very well and had been for quite a few weeks. While we’ve been poor the last two weeks let’s not act like they’ve been like this all season.

You seem to have a very short memory a lot of the time. When things are bad you forget the good that was not too long ago, I hope you don’t view your whole life like that

Madge is a poor man manager and the majority of the run on side are his signings ...
So tell me what’s he going to do with Mbye and Brooks ?

With Mbye? No idea. He’s on huge money and I doubt anyone takes his contract. I can guarantee Madge would much rather have that money to spend elsewhere. If we sign a better centre then Mbye can be a bench utility.

Madge will give brooks another chance. He is a fan of brooksy and while his form has been down this year he is a good half when at his best.

I don’t think Madge is a poor man manager it just depends on the player. All the players say he’s very honest with the players and expects a lot out of them. Not every player will appreciate the honesty and will take it as an insult but some players will take it and work on things they need to. Most players seem pretty happy with Madge

And in the mean time we’ll blunder and fumble for the rest of this year and next year only to see quality players sign with other teams because we’re a basket case

We don’t sign big name players and we won’t until we start making finals unfortunately. Gotta keep unearthing youngsters/guys who need a shot at first grade.

Need to look at England and Fiji more too! It works so well for other clubs and we never seem to do it.

Why were the Titans able to sign Tino and Fifita and the Dogs able to sign Luke Thompson and Cotric but we can’t? Theyre worse than we are and we are the team with the premiership winning coach

id say money madge sound frugal and it would be easy to be gunshy after our current big 4s contracts



@hodgo said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200169) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200141) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200134) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200131) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200102) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200086) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200067) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200049) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200027) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200016) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199990) said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199977) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199890) said:
There’s no coach turning this team around in less than 3 years. Madge doing the best with the crap he has been given. His recruitment has been smart **and the club as a whole is building,** unfortunately a tough draw and some poor performances will not make us look good on the ladder come the end of the year but as a whole I think the club is building the right way.

He’s going about things a whole lot better than our last couple coaches. He’s playing the long game which takes patience but in our current predicament it’s the best option. We can’t afford a new coach, extend Madge one more season and see how he goes.

Desperately need to keep cleaning out the rubbish from our cap, he’s trying his best and will continue to try. I’m happy he’s tough and willing to yell and drop players, a soft coach wouldn’t be able to change our culture I think

He’s not perfect and has made mistakes but he’s our best option

Seriously Josh. Can you please pinpoint and articulate exactly where and how we are building as a club because mate all I see are the same performances, the same words, the same excuses, the same situations roll out every week every year. There is no evidence that I see that we are building. We are doing stuff - yes. But we are not building. In fact it could be argued we are regressing.

We are investing in youth, cleaning up our salary cap, new training facilities coming, Madge’s recruitment has been good, training at a higher level than previous years, while there’s been hiccups we have showed more heart and resilience in some perfomances this year then we have the last 3 seasons.

Madge is playing the long game and it will take a long time, the steps he has taken are the best ones you could do. He’s been a lot smarter than previous coaches and has a genuine eye on the long term future of the club which can be seen by trying to realign with St Greg’s among other things.

Unfortunately we will probably end up 10th or 11th on the ladder. Hard draw and some poor performances have lead us there but there isn’t an instant fix to our problems

Jennings say hi ?
Also playing Doohey at the back when blind Freddy can see he ain’t a fullback

Madge extended Brooks who’s useless

Gave Lawrence another year who’s useless ..

Gives momirovski another 2 years who’s useless

Gives a total Gronk the captaincy who’s useless

The list goes on ...
Even Taylorball was more effective than this crap !

I can’t take you seriously if you think Taylor is a better option than Madge.

Jennings was a good signing at the time who didn’t work out, not every signing will, you expect the coach to be perfect? Doueihi may not be a permanent fullback but is our best option at the moment. When brooks was resigned he was back to back player of the year. Momirovski is a solid player. Can’t agree with re-signing Lawrence and the Mbye captaincy might not seem right to us but Madge has his reasons.

Look at the bigger picture mate. Madge is working towards slowly building us into a good club which is the only option, and I’m pretty sure the club will stick by him. Impossible to expect instant results

Non of the players we’ve mentioned will take us to the big dance ...
Madge is pissing into the wind and he knows it !
We have Brooks until 2023
Mbye until 2022
So what does he do with them ??

He can’t even get them to do the basics right ...
Tackle
Line speed
Kick chase

Two weeks ago we did all those things very well and had been for quite a few weeks. While we’ve been poor the last two weeks let’s not act like they’ve been like this all season.

You seem to have a very short memory a lot of the time. When things are bad you forget the good that was not too long ago, I hope you don’t view your whole life like that

Madge is a poor man manager and the majority of the run on side are his signings ...
So tell me what’s he going to do with Mbye and Brooks ?

With Mbye? No idea. He’s on huge money and I doubt anyone takes his contract. I can guarantee Madge would much rather have that money to spend elsewhere. If we sign a better centre then Mbye can be a bench utility.

Madge will give brooks another chance. He is a fan of brooksy and while his form has been down this year he is a good half when at his best.

I don’t think Madge is a poor man manager it just depends on the player. All the players say he’s very honest with the players and expects a lot out of them. Not every player will appreciate the honesty and will take it as an insult but some players will take it and work on things they need to. Most players seem pretty happy with Madge

And in the mean time we’ll blunder and fumble for the rest of this year and next year only to see quality players sign with other teams because we’re a basket case

We don’t sign big name players and we won’t until we start making finals unfortunately. Gotta keep unearthing youngsters/guys who need a shot at first grade.

Need to look at England and Fiji more too! It works so well for other clubs and we never seem to do it.

Why were the Titans able to sign Tino and Fifita and the Dogs able to sign Luke Thompson and Cotric but we can’t? Theyre worse than we are and we are the team with the premiership winning coach

id say money madge sound frugal and it would be easy to be gunshy after our current big 4s contracts

We need to invest in players who will improve our squad imo. Buying cast offs or juniors with little to no NRL experience isn’t going to improve us.
 
Madge has to own it, which I’m sure he does.But all his defenders have to as well. Anyone that tries to say he’s still cleaning Ivan’s mess needs to accept that this is his squad. He might not have signed all 30 players, but it’s the majority of the squad, As a coach, unless you’ve been at a club for at least 3-4 years, not all the squad will have been signed by the current coach. It’s just one of the hazards of the job where you are going to have to deal with another coaches leftovers. You have to it make it work. Different if he had no cap space to do anything like Potter and JT.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200173) said:
@hodgo said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200169) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200141) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200134) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200131) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200102) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200086) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200067) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200049) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200027) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200016) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199990) said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199977) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199890) said:
There’s no coach turning this team around in less than 3 years. Madge doing the best with the crap he has been given. His recruitment has been smart **and the club as a whole is building,** unfortunately a tough draw and some poor performances will not make us look good on the ladder come the end of the year but as a whole I think the club is building the right way.

He’s going about things a whole lot better than our last couple coaches. He’s playing the long game which takes patience but in our current predicament it’s the best option. We can’t afford a new coach, extend Madge one more season and see how he goes.

Desperately need to keep cleaning out the rubbish from our cap, he’s trying his best and will continue to try. I’m happy he’s tough and willing to yell and drop players, a soft coach wouldn’t be able to change our culture I think

He’s not perfect and has made mistakes but he’s our best option

Seriously Josh. Can you please pinpoint and articulate exactly where and how we are building as a club because mate all I see are the same performances, the same words, the same excuses, the same situations roll out every week every year. There is no evidence that I see that we are building. We are doing stuff - yes. But we are not building. In fact it could be argued we are regressing.

We are investing in youth, cleaning up our salary cap, new training facilities coming, Madge’s recruitment has been good, training at a higher level than previous years, while there’s been hiccups we have showed more heart and resilience in some perfomances this year then we have the last 3 seasons.

Madge is playing the long game and it will take a long time, the steps he has taken are the best ones you could do. He’s been a lot smarter than previous coaches and has a genuine eye on the long term future of the club which can be seen by trying to realign with St Greg’s among other things.

Unfortunately we will probably end up 10th or 11th on the ladder. Hard draw and some poor performances have lead us there but there isn’t an instant fix to our problems

Jennings say hi ?
Also playing Doohey at the back when blind Freddy can see he ain’t a fullback

Madge extended Brooks who’s useless

Gave Lawrence another year who’s useless ..

Gives momirovski another 2 years who’s useless

Gives a total Gronk the captaincy who’s useless

The list goes on ...
Even Taylorball was more effective than this crap !

I can’t take you seriously if you think Taylor is a better option than Madge.

Jennings was a good signing at the time who didn’t work out, not every signing will, you expect the coach to be perfect? Doueihi may not be a permanent fullback but is our best option at the moment. When brooks was resigned he was back to back player of the year. Momirovski is a solid player. Can’t agree with re-signing Lawrence and the Mbye captaincy might not seem right to us but Madge has his reasons.

Look at the bigger picture mate. Madge is working towards slowly building us into a good club which is the only option, and I’m pretty sure the club will stick by him. Impossible to expect instant results

Non of the players we’ve mentioned will take us to the big dance ...
Madge is pissing into the wind and he knows it !
We have Brooks until 2023
Mbye until 2022
So what does he do with them ??

He can’t even get them to do the basics right ...
Tackle
Line speed
Kick chase

Two weeks ago we did all those things very well and had been for quite a few weeks. While we’ve been poor the last two weeks let’s not act like they’ve been like this all season.

You seem to have a very short memory a lot of the time. When things are bad you forget the good that was not too long ago, I hope you don’t view your whole life like that

Madge is a poor man manager and the majority of the run on side are his signings ...
So tell me what’s he going to do with Mbye and Brooks ?

With Mbye? No idea. He’s on huge money and I doubt anyone takes his contract. I can guarantee Madge would much rather have that money to spend elsewhere. If we sign a better centre then Mbye can be a bench utility.

Madge will give brooks another chance. He is a fan of brooksy and while his form has been down this year he is a good half when at his best.

I don’t think Madge is a poor man manager it just depends on the player. All the players say he’s very honest with the players and expects a lot out of them. Not every player will appreciate the honesty and will take it as an insult but some players will take it and work on things they need to. Most players seem pretty happy with Madge

And in the mean time we’ll blunder and fumble for the rest of this year and next year only to see quality players sign with other teams because we’re a basket case

We don’t sign big name players and we won’t until we start making finals unfortunately. Gotta keep unearthing youngsters/guys who need a shot at first grade.

Need to look at England and Fiji more too! It works so well for other clubs and we never seem to do it.

Why were the Titans able to sign Tino and Fifita and the Dogs able to sign Luke Thompson and Cotric but we can’t? Theyre worse than we are and we are the team with the premiership winning coach

id say money madge sound frugal and it would be easy to be gunshy after our current big 4s contracts



@hodgo said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200169) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200141) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200134) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200131) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200102) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200086) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200067) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200049) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200027) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200016) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199990) said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199977) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199890) said:
There’s no coach turning this team around in less than 3 years. Madge doing the best with the crap he has been given. His recruitment has been smart **and the club as a whole is building,** unfortunately a tough draw and some poor performances will not make us look good on the ladder come the end of the year but as a whole I think the club is building the right way.

He’s going about things a whole lot better than our last couple coaches. He’s playing the long game which takes patience but in our current predicament it’s the best option. We can’t afford a new coach, extend Madge one more season and see how he goes.

Desperately need to keep cleaning out the rubbish from our cap, he’s trying his best and will continue to try. I’m happy he’s tough and willing to yell and drop players, a soft coach wouldn’t be able to change our culture I think

He’s not perfect and has made mistakes but he’s our best option

Seriously Josh. Can you please pinpoint and articulate exactly where and how we are building as a club because mate all I see are the same performances, the same words, the same excuses, the same situations roll out every week every year. There is no evidence that I see that we are building. We are doing stuff - yes. But we are not building. In fact it could be argued we are regressing.

We are investing in youth, cleaning up our salary cap, new training facilities coming, Madge’s recruitment has been good, training at a higher level than previous years, while there’s been hiccups we have showed more heart and resilience in some perfomances this year then we have the last 3 seasons.

Madge is playing the long game and it will take a long time, the steps he has taken are the best ones you could do. He’s been a lot smarter than previous coaches and has a genuine eye on the long term future of the club which can be seen by trying to realign with St Greg’s among other things.

Unfortunately we will probably end up 10th or 11th on the ladder. Hard draw and some poor performances have lead us there but there isn’t an instant fix to our problems

Jennings say hi ?
Also playing Doohey at the back when blind Freddy can see he ain’t a fullback

Madge extended Brooks who’s useless

Gave Lawrence another year who’s useless ..

Gives momirovski another 2 years who’s useless

Gives a total Gronk the captaincy who’s useless

The list goes on ...
Even Taylorball was more effective than this crap !

I can’t take you seriously if you think Taylor is a better option than Madge.

Jennings was a good signing at the time who didn’t work out, not every signing will, you expect the coach to be perfect? Doueihi may not be a permanent fullback but is our best option at the moment. When brooks was resigned he was back to back player of the year. Momirovski is a solid player. Can’t agree with re-signing Lawrence and the Mbye captaincy might not seem right to us but Madge has his reasons.

Look at the bigger picture mate. Madge is working towards slowly building us into a good club which is the only option, and I’m pretty sure the club will stick by him. Impossible to expect instant results

Non of the players we’ve mentioned will take us to the big dance ...
Madge is pissing into the wind and he knows it !
We have Brooks until 2023
Mbye until 2022
So what does he do with them ??

He can’t even get them to do the basics right ...
Tackle
Line speed
Kick chase

Two weeks ago we did all those things very well and had been for quite a few weeks. While we’ve been poor the last two weeks let’s not act like they’ve been like this all season.

You seem to have a very short memory a lot of the time. When things are bad you forget the good that was not too long ago, I hope you don’t view your whole life like that

Madge is a poor man manager and the majority of the run on side are his signings ...
So tell me what’s he going to do with Mbye and Brooks ?

With Mbye? No idea. He’s on huge money and I doubt anyone takes his contract. I can guarantee Madge would much rather have that money to spend elsewhere. If we sign a better centre then Mbye can be a bench utility.

Madge will give brooks another chance. He is a fan of brooksy and while his form has been down this year he is a good half when at his best.

I don’t think Madge is a poor man manager it just depends on the player. All the players say he’s very honest with the players and expects a lot out of them. Not every player will appreciate the honesty and will take it as an insult but some players will take it and work on things they need to. Most players seem pretty happy with Madge

And in the mean time we’ll blunder and fumble for the rest of this year and next year only to see quality players sign with other teams because we’re a basket case

We don’t sign big name players and we won’t until we start making finals unfortunately. Gotta keep unearthing youngsters/guys who need a shot at first grade.

Need to look at England and Fiji more too! It works so well for other clubs and we never seem to do it.

Why were the Titans able to sign Tino and Fifita and the Dogs able to sign Luke Thompson and Cotric but we can’t? Theyre worse than we are and we are the team with the premiership winning coach

id say money madge sound frugal and it would be easy to be gunshy after our current big 4s contracts

We need to invest in players who will improve our squad imo. Buying cast offs or juniors with little to no NRL experience isn’t going to improve us.



@avocadoontoast said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200173) said:
@hodgo said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200169) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200141) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200134) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200131) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200102) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200086) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200067) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200049) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200027) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200016) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199990) said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199977) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199890) said:
There’s no coach turning this team around in less than 3 years. Madge doing the best with the crap he has been given. His recruitment has been smart **and the club as a whole is building,** unfortunately a tough draw and some poor performances will not make us look good on the ladder come the end of the year but as a whole I think the club is building the right way.

He’s going about things a whole lot better than our last couple coaches. He’s playing the long game which takes patience but in our current predicament it’s the best option. We can’t afford a new coach, extend Madge one more season and see how he goes.

Desperately need to keep cleaning out the rubbish from our cap, he’s trying his best and will continue to try. I’m happy he’s tough and willing to yell and drop players, a soft coach wouldn’t be able to change our culture I think

He’s not perfect and has made mistakes but he’s our best option

Seriously Josh. Can you please pinpoint and articulate exactly where and how we are building as a club because mate all I see are the same performances, the same words, the same excuses, the same situations roll out every week every year. There is no evidence that I see that we are building. We are doing stuff - yes. But we are not building. In fact it could be argued we are regressing.

We are investing in youth, cleaning up our salary cap, new training facilities coming, Madge’s recruitment has been good, training at a higher level than previous years, while there’s been hiccups we have showed more heart and resilience in some perfomances this year then we have the last 3 seasons.

Madge is playing the long game and it will take a long time, the steps he has taken are the best ones you could do. He’s been a lot smarter than previous coaches and has a genuine eye on the long term future of the club which can be seen by trying to realign with St Greg’s among other things.

Unfortunately we will probably end up 10th or 11th on the ladder. Hard draw and some poor performances have lead us there but there isn’t an instant fix to our problems

Jennings say hi ?
Also playing Doohey at the back when blind Freddy can see he ain’t a fullback

Madge extended Brooks who’s useless

Gave Lawrence another year who’s useless ..

Gives momirovski another 2 years who’s useless

Gives a total Gronk the captaincy who’s useless

The list goes on ...
Even Taylorball was more effective than this crap !

I can’t take you seriously if you think Taylor is a better option than Madge.

Jennings was a good signing at the time who didn’t work out, not every signing will, you expect the coach to be perfect? Doueihi may not be a permanent fullback but is our best option at the moment. When brooks was resigned he was back to back player of the year. Momirovski is a solid player. Can’t agree with re-signing Lawrence and the Mbye captaincy might not seem right to us but Madge has his reasons.

Look at the bigger picture mate. Madge is working towards slowly building us into a good club which is the only option, and I’m pretty sure the club will stick by him. Impossible to expect instant results

Non of the players we’ve mentioned will take us to the big dance ...
Madge is pissing into the wind and he knows it !
We have Brooks until 2023
Mbye until 2022
So what does he do with them ??

He can’t even get them to do the basics right ...
Tackle
Line speed
Kick chase

Two weeks ago we did all those things very well and had been for quite a few weeks. While we’ve been poor the last two weeks let’s not act like they’ve been like this all season.

You seem to have a very short memory a lot of the time. When things are bad you forget the good that was not too long ago, I hope you don’t view your whole life like that

Madge is a poor man manager and the majority of the run on side are his signings ...
So tell me what’s he going to do with Mbye and Brooks ?

With Mbye? No idea. He’s on huge money and I doubt anyone takes his contract. I can guarantee Madge would much rather have that money to spend elsewhere. If we sign a better centre then Mbye can be a bench utility.

Madge will give brooks another chance. He is a fan of brooksy and while his form has been down this year he is a good half when at his best.

I don’t think Madge is a poor man manager it just depends on the player. All the players say he’s very honest with the players and expects a lot out of them. Not every player will appreciate the honesty and will take it as an insult but some players will take it and work on things they need to. Most players seem pretty happy with Madge

And in the mean time we’ll blunder and fumble for the rest of this year and next year only to see quality players sign with other teams because we’re a basket case

We don’t sign big name players and we won’t until we start making finals unfortunately. Gotta keep unearthing youngsters/guys who need a shot at first grade.

Need to look at England and Fiji more too! It works so well for other clubs and we never seem to do it.

Why were the Titans able to sign Tino and Fifita and the Dogs able to sign Luke Thompson and Cotric but we can’t? Theyre worse than we are and we are the team with the premiership winning coach

id say money madge sound frugal and it would be easy to be gunshy after our current big 4s contracts



@hodgo said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200169) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200141) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200134) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200131) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200102) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200086) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200067) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200049) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200027) said:
@hobbo1 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200016) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199990) said:
@Tiger_Steve said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199977) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1199890) said:
There’s no coach turning this team around in less than 3 years. Madge doing the best with the crap he has been given. His recruitment has been smart **and the club as a whole is building,** unfortunately a tough draw and some poor performances will not make us look good on the ladder come the end of the year but as a whole I think the club is building the right way.

He’s going about things a whole lot better than our last couple coaches. He’s playing the long game which takes patience but in our current predicament it’s the best option. We can’t afford a new coach, extend Madge one more season and see how he goes.

Desperately need to keep cleaning out the rubbish from our cap, he’s trying his best and will continue to try. I’m happy he’s tough and willing to yell and drop players, a soft coach wouldn’t be able to change our culture I think

He’s not perfect and has made mistakes but he’s our best option

Seriously Josh. Can you please pinpoint and articulate exactly where and how we are building as a club because mate all I see are the same performances, the same words, the same excuses, the same situations roll out every week every year. There is no evidence that I see that we are building. We are doing stuff - yes. But we are not building. In fact it could be argued we are regressing.

We are investing in youth, cleaning up our salary cap, new training facilities coming, Madge’s recruitment has been good, training at a higher level than previous years, while there’s been hiccups we have showed more heart and resilience in some perfomances this year then we have the last 3 seasons.

Madge is playing the long game and it will take a long time, the steps he has taken are the best ones you could do. He’s been a lot smarter than previous coaches and has a genuine eye on the long term future of the club which can be seen by trying to realign with St Greg’s among other things.

Unfortunately we will probably end up 10th or 11th on the ladder. Hard draw and some poor performances have lead us there but there isn’t an instant fix to our problems

Jennings say hi ?
Also playing Doohey at the back when blind Freddy can see he ain’t a fullback

Madge extended Brooks who’s useless

Gave Lawrence another year who’s useless ..

Gives momirovski another 2 years who’s useless

Gives a total Gronk the captaincy who’s useless

The list goes on ...
Even Taylorball was more effective than this crap !

I can’t take you seriously if you think Taylor is a better option than Madge.

Jennings was a good signing at the time who didn’t work out, not every signing will, you expect the coach to be perfect? Doueihi may not be a permanent fullback but is our best option at the moment. When brooks was resigned he was back to back player of the year. Momirovski is a solid player. Can’t agree with re-signing Lawrence and the Mbye captaincy might not seem right to us but Madge has his reasons.

Look at the bigger picture mate. Madge is working towards slowly building us into a good club which is the only option, and I’m pretty sure the club will stick by him. Impossible to expect instant results

Non of the players we’ve mentioned will take us to the big dance ...
Madge is pissing into the wind and he knows it !
We have Brooks until 2023
Mbye until 2022
So what does he do with them ??

He can’t even get them to do the basics right ...
Tackle
Line speed
Kick chase

Two weeks ago we did all those things very well and had been for quite a few weeks. While we’ve been poor the last two weeks let’s not act like they’ve been like this all season.

You seem to have a very short memory a lot of the time. When things are bad you forget the good that was not too long ago, I hope you don’t view your whole life like that

Madge is a poor man manager and the majority of the run on side are his signings ...
So tell me what’s he going to do with Mbye and Brooks ?

With Mbye? No idea. He’s on huge money and I doubt anyone takes his contract. I can guarantee Madge would much rather have that money to spend elsewhere. If we sign a better centre then Mbye can be a bench utility.

Madge will give brooks another chance. He is a fan of brooksy and while his form has been down this year he is a good half when at his best.

I don’t think Madge is a poor man manager it just depends on the player. All the players say he’s very honest with the players and expects a lot out of them. Not every player will appreciate the honesty and will take it as an insult but some players will take it and work on things they need to. Most players seem pretty happy with Madge

And in the mean time we’ll blunder and fumble for the rest of this year and next year only to see quality players sign with other teams because we’re a basket case

We don’t sign big name players and we won’t until we start making finals unfortunately. Gotta keep unearthing youngsters/guys who need a shot at first grade.

Need to look at England and Fiji more too! It works so well for other clubs and we never seem to do it.

Why were the Titans able to sign Tino and Fifita and the Dogs able to sign Luke Thompson and Cotric but we can’t? Theyre worse than we are and we are the team with the premiership winning coach

id say money madge sound frugal and it would be easy to be gunshy after our current big 4s contracts

We need to invest in players who will improve our squad imo. Buying cast offs or juniors with little to no NRL experience isn’t going to improve us.

I dont disagree mate although im a fan of the youth movement. But its a two way street everyone keeps saying we needs this guy or that guy, well they need to want to come here. He did a good job in persuading lucy and in turn bj. But i think astute purchases are the way forward and that is usually young guys or castaways.

Most clubs have alot of castaways just need to find the ones that work for you.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200176) said:
Madge has to own it, which I’m sure he does.But all his defenders have to as well. Anyone that tries to say he’s still cleaning Ivan’s mess needs to accept that this is his squad. He might not have signed all 30 players, but it’s the majority of the squad, As a coach, unless you’ve been at a club for at least 3-4 years, not all the squad will have been signed by the current coach. It’s just one of the hazards of the job where you are going to have to deal with another coaches leftovers. You have to it make it work. Different if he had no cap space to do anything like Potter and JT.

Erm, he’s had barely any cap space. He IS still cleaning Ivan’s mess, millions of our cap is still tied up in Ivan’s mess. That’s why I won’t judge him until he’s been here three of four years like you said as that’s when it’ll properly be his squad
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200182) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [A crucial period for Madge\.\.\.](/post/1200176) said:
Madge has to own it, which I’m sure he does.But all his defenders have to as well. Anyone that tries to say he’s still cleaning Ivan’s mess needs to accept that this is his squad. He might not have signed all 30 players, but it’s the majority of the squad, As a coach, unless you’ve been at a club for at least 3-4 years, not all the squad will have been signed by the current coach. It’s just one of the hazards of the job where you are going to have to deal with another coaches leftovers. You have to it make it work. Different if he had no cap space to do anything like Potter and JT.

Erm, he’s had barely any cap space. He IS still cleaning Ivan’s mess, millions of our cap is still tied up in Ivan’s mess. That’s why I won’t judge him until he’s been here three of four years like you said as that’s when it’ll properly be his squad

So he has a pass for 3-4 years?
 

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