A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE

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Phil Rothfield
May 29, 2021 - 6:00PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom


The Wests Tigers are on the verge of signing former champion halfback Brett ‘Noddy’ Kimmorley to head up their pathways and junior development.

They hope it will ensure the next Campbelltown juniors of the calibre of James Tedesco, Jarryd Hayne and Israel Folau are captured and kept in their system.

The former NSW Blues and Kangaroos playmaker already has a tremendous knowledge of the game’s best young players through his coaching of emerging Blues for the NSWRL.

“We’ve refocused our strategy over the last couple of years,” Wests Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe said. “That means investing in pathways with the acquisition of someone like Noddy.

“He’s got a great reputation in the game and he’ll be outstanding.

“Imagine him working with young halves when we set up our academy.

“To have him talking to kids and their parents will be invaluable.”

The Wests Tigers have also signed one of Australian cricket’s top development strategists to work alongside Kimmorley.

Matt Betsey headed up cricket’s top coaching academy and has overseen the growth and progress of many youngsters now playing Sheffield Shield and Test cricket.

“These appointments are as much about retention as development,” Pascoe said. “We’re going along well. Our reserve grade side is sitting second, our 21’s are running first, our sponsorship and memberships are at record levels.

“Financially our balance sheet was minus $7 million — now it’s positive. This is why we can now go and invest in people like Noddy and Matt in such crucial roles.”

Friday night’s win over St George Illawarra has kept alive the Tigers’ hopes of playing finals football for the first time in 10 years.

Buzz pumping up our tyres, is he ok?

He's not really though, is he? It's a brief, 'just the facts' reports that - unlike most of his garbage - doesn't tell the audience what to think. If it was about the Sharks I guarantee it be be full of "the Sharks have all but secured their future as a rugby league powerhouse" - all we get is a straight report.

Sounds to me like Pascoe bought him a bottle of scotch if he mentions WT financials

No matter what people think of Pascoe a $7mil turn around into the black is an impressive achievement as supporters we probably expected to much to soon after the JT & Cleary debacles but onward and upward should be our new chant.

Think the NRL give us nearly that every year. He is not a saviour in my books until we can play footy.

100% of clubs spend the NRL grant on salary cap, and after that many lose money on overall spending, sometimes topped up by Leagues Clubs or sponsors.

The point about Pascoe and Tigers is he reversed the debt over many seasons, which you can't use the NRL grant to do, unless you wanttl to stop paying your players.

Looking at our squad compared to Melbourne, Easts or Penrith, I’d argue he’s effectively doing that. Probably not really in practice but as I said, until he gets the organisation playing football consistently I couldn’t give two hoots about the bank balance. We’re a footy team not a savings account.

You ever tried to pay for a footy team with a negative bank balance?
 
@jirskyr said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377197) said:
@cochise said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377090) said:
@jirskyr said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377055) said:
@mighty_tiger said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377032) said:
@jirskyr said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1376879) said:
I'm super curious how you keep a guy like Israel Folau in the Wests junior catchment when he moves to Brisbane at 15 years old, because his dad got a job there. Typical stupid Buzz article.

He didn’t say that. And cmon its buzz he never has anything good to day about us.

It’s impossible to keep them all, people move for various reasons and some of those include moving to give the kids a pathway chance to play nrl. This isn’t just for u18s kids get tapped in the U12s upwards especially out west by Panthers and Parra to play in there junior comps etc.

Wouldn’t you prefer to have a crack at keeping the next Folau or just keep letting them go which we have a bad record of.

It's exactly what he says 2nd paragraph, players of "the calibre of xxx" . He could have said players of the calibre of Munster or Inglis, if he was talking in the generalities of ability.

When people want to argue about better engagement of Macarthur juniors they alwayd seem to point to Tedesco (who was captured by Wests, that's a success indicator), Hayne (Minto to junior Eel) and Folau, who moved.

I'm still yet to see the comprehensive list of top-shelf juniors produced consistently in the Macarthur, alone or in comparison to any other district.

My personal view is - by all means consolidate your pathways from Macarthur and Balmain, but there are a tonne of juniors all over, and for me its more about talent ID from any region.

The best players on our books right now aren't even from Macarthur.

I feel we are now one of the better club at identifying talent. We just need to develop and keep them.

Melbourne Storm have made a dynasty of recruiting junior talent from QLD, you just have to look in the right places and have a nose for junior talent.

Correct, IMHO, this is the only reasonable option we have, and forget wet dreams (e.g. Munster, Cleary, T Trbojevic etc.):+1:
 
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I'm super curious how you keep a guy like Israel Folau in the Wests junior catchment when he moves to Brisbane at 15 years old, because his dad got a job there. Typical stupid Buzz article.

He didn’t say that. And cmon its buzz he never has anything good to day about us.

It’s impossible to keep them all, people move for various reasons and some of those include moving to give the kids a pathway chance to play nrl. This isn’t just for u18s kids get tapped in the U12s upwards especially out west by Panthers and Parra to play in there junior comps etc.

Wouldn’t you prefer to have a crack at keeping the next Folau or just keep letting them go which we have a bad record of.

It's exactly what he says 2nd paragraph, players of "the calibre of xxx" . He could have said players of the calibre of Munster or Inglis, if he was talking in the generalities of ability.

When people want to argue about better engagement of Macarthur juniors they alwayd seem to point to Tedesco (who was captured by Wests, that's a success indicator), Hayne (Minto to junior Eel) and Folau, who moved.

I'm still yet to see the comprehensive list of top-shelf juniors produced consistently in the Macarthur, alone or in comparison to any other district.

My personal view is - by all means consolidate your pathways from Macarthur and Balmain, but there are a tonne of juniors all over, and for me its more about talent ID from any region.

The best players on our books right now aren't even from Macarthur.

I feel we are now one of the better club at identifying talent. We just need to develop and keep them.

Melbourne Storm have made a dynasty of recruiting junior talent from QLD, you just have to look in the right places and have a nose for junior talent.

Correct, IMHO, this is the only reasonable option we have, and forget wet dreams (e.g. Munster, Cleary, T Trbojevic etc.):+1:

I think you are correct for now, but I do think we are a player or two away, from having those dreams come true?
 
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@jirskyr said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377055) said:
@mighty_tiger said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377032) said:
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I'm super curious how you keep a guy like Israel Folau in the Wests junior catchment when he moves to Brisbane at 15 years old, because his dad got a job there. Typical stupid Buzz article.

He didn’t say that. And cmon its buzz he never has anything good to day about us.

It’s impossible to keep them all, people move for various reasons and some of those include moving to give the kids a pathway chance to play nrl. This isn’t just for u18s kids get tapped in the U12s upwards especially out west by Panthers and Parra to play in there junior comps etc.

Wouldn’t you prefer to have a crack at keeping the next Folau or just keep letting them go which we have a bad record of.

It's exactly what he says 2nd paragraph, players of "the calibre of xxx" . He could have said players of the calibre of Munster or Inglis, if he was talking in the generalities of ability.

When people want to argue about better engagement of Macarthur juniors they alwayd seem to point to Tedesco (who was captured by Wests, that's a success indicator), Hayne (Minto to junior Eel) and Folau, who moved.

I'm still yet to see the comprehensive list of top-shelf juniors produced consistently in the Macarthur, alone or in comparison to any other district.

My personal view is - by all means consolidate your pathways from Macarthur and Balmain, but there are a tonne of juniors all over, and for me its more about talent ID from any region.

The best players on our books right now aren't even from Macarthur.

I feel we are now one of the better club at identifying talent. We just need to develop and keep them.

Melbourne Storm have made a dynasty of recruiting junior talent from QLD, you just have to look in the right places and have a nose for junior talent.

Correct, IMHO, this is the only reasonable option we have, and forget wet dreams (e.g. Munster, Cleary, T Trbojevic etc.):+1:

I think you are correct for now, but I do think we are a player or two away, from having those dreams come true?

I would like to share your optimism, but I would not hold my breath😢
 
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A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE


Phil Rothfield
May 29, 2021 - 6:00PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom


The Wests Tigers are on the verge of signing former champion halfback Brett ‘Noddy’ Kimmorley to head up their pathways and junior development.

They hope it will ensure the next Campbelltown juniors of the calibre of James Tedesco, Jarryd Hayne and Israel Folau are captured and kept in their system.

The former NSW Blues and Kangaroos playmaker already has a tremendous knowledge of the game’s best young players through his coaching of emerging Blues for the NSWRL.

“We’ve refocused our strategy over the last couple of years,” Wests Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe said. “That means investing in pathways with the acquisition of someone like Noddy.

“He’s got a great reputation in the game and he’ll be outstanding.

“Imagine him working with young halves when we set up our academy.

“To have him talking to kids and their parents will be invaluable.”

The Wests Tigers have also signed one of Australian cricket’s top development strategists to work alongside Kimmorley.

Matt Betsey headed up cricket’s top coaching academy and has overseen the growth and progress of many youngsters now playing Sheffield Shield and Test cricket.

“These appointments are as much about retention as development,” Pascoe said. “We’re going along well. Our reserve grade side is sitting second, our 21’s are running first, our sponsorship and memberships are at record levels.

“Financially our balance sheet was minus $7 million — now it’s positive. This is why we can now go and invest in people like Noddy and Matt in such crucial roles.”

Friday night’s win over St George Illawarra has kept alive the Tigers’ hopes of playing finals football for the first time in 10 years.

Buzz pumping up our tyres, is he ok?

He's not really though, is he? It's a brief, 'just the facts' reports that - unlike most of his garbage - doesn't tell the audience what to think. If it was about the Sharks I guarantee it be be full of "the Sharks have all but secured their future as a rugby league powerhouse" - all we get is a straight report.

Sounds to me like Pascoe bought him a bottle of scotch if he mentions WT financials

No matter what people think of Pascoe a $7mil turn around into the black is an impressive achievement as supporters we probably expected to much to soon after the JT & Cleary debacles but onward and upward should be our new chant.

Think the NRL give us nearly that every year. He is not a saviour in my books until we can play footy.

100% of clubs spend the NRL grant on salary cap, and after that many lose money on overall spending, sometimes topped up by Leagues Clubs or sponsors.

The point about Pascoe and Tigers is he reversed the debt over many seasons, which you can't use the NRL grant to do, unless you wanttl to stop paying your players.

Looking at our squad compared to Melbourne, Easts or Penrith, I’d argue he’s effectively doing that. Probably not really in practice but as I said, until he gets the organisation playing football consistently I couldn’t give two hoots about the bank balance. We’re a footy team not a savings account.

You ever tried to pay for a footy team with a negative bank balance?

Many clubs continually operate at a loss and finish higher up the ladder than us.
 
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A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE


Phil Rothfield
May 29, 2021 - 6:00PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom


The Wests Tigers are on the verge of signing former champion halfback Brett ‘Noddy’ Kimmorley to head up their pathways and junior development.

They hope it will ensure the next Campbelltown juniors of the calibre of James Tedesco, Jarryd Hayne and Israel Folau are captured and kept in their system.

The former NSW Blues and Kangaroos playmaker already has a tremendous knowledge of the game’s best young players through his coaching of emerging Blues for the NSWRL.

“We’ve refocused our strategy over the last couple of years,” Wests Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe said. “That means investing in pathways with the acquisition of someone like Noddy.

“He’s got a great reputation in the game and he’ll be outstanding.

“Imagine him working with young halves when we set up our academy.

“To have him talking to kids and their parents will be invaluable.”

The Wests Tigers have also signed one of Australian cricket’s top development strategists to work alongside Kimmorley.

Matt Betsey headed up cricket’s top coaching academy and has overseen the growth and progress of many youngsters now playing Sheffield Shield and Test cricket.

“These appointments are as much about retention as development,” Pascoe said. “We’re going along well. Our reserve grade side is sitting second, our 21’s are running first, our sponsorship and memberships are at record levels.

“Financially our balance sheet was minus $7 million — now it’s positive. This is why we can now go and invest in people like Noddy and Matt in such crucial roles.”

Friday night’s win over St George Illawarra has kept alive the Tigers’ hopes of playing finals football for the first time in 10 years.

Buzz pumping up our tyres, is he ok?

He's not really though, is he? It's a brief, 'just the facts' reports that - unlike most of his garbage - doesn't tell the audience what to think. If it was about the Sharks I guarantee it be be full of "the Sharks have all but secured their future as a rugby league powerhouse" - all we get is a straight report.

Sounds to me like Pascoe bought him a bottle of scotch if he mentions WT financials

No matter what people think of Pascoe a $7mil turn around into the black is an impressive achievement as supporters we probably expected to much to soon after the JT & Cleary debacles but onward and upward should be our new chant.

Think the NRL give us nearly that every year. He is not a saviour in my books until we can play footy.

100% of clubs spend the NRL grant on salary cap, and after that many lose money on overall spending, sometimes topped up by Leagues Clubs or sponsors.

The point about Pascoe and Tigers is he reversed the debt over many seasons, which you can't use the NRL grant to do, unless you wanttl to stop paying your players.

Looking at our squad compared to Melbourne, Easts or Penrith, I’d argue he’s effectively doing that. Probably not really in practice but as I said, until he gets the organisation playing football consistently I couldn’t give two hoots about the bank balance. We’re a footy team not a savings account.

You ever tried to pay for a footy team with a negative bank balance?

Many clubs continually operate at a loss and finish higher up the ladder than us.

Most, I'd say. I wonder how many Bronco fans are delighted with the club making a profit every year but missing the finals? We're a special breed.
 
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A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE


Phil Rothfield
May 29, 2021 - 6:00PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom


The Wests Tigers are on the verge of signing former champion halfback Brett ‘Noddy’ Kimmorley to head up their pathways and junior development.

They hope it will ensure the next Campbelltown juniors of the calibre of James Tedesco, Jarryd Hayne and Israel Folau are captured and kept in their system.

The former NSW Blues and Kangaroos playmaker already has a tremendous knowledge of the game’s best young players through his coaching of emerging Blues for the NSWRL.

“We’ve refocused our strategy over the last couple of years,” Wests Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe said. “That means investing in pathways with the acquisition of someone like Noddy.

“He’s got a great reputation in the game and he’ll be outstanding.

“Imagine him working with young halves when we set up our academy.

“To have him talking to kids and their parents will be invaluable.”

The Wests Tigers have also signed one of Australian cricket’s top development strategists to work alongside Kimmorley.

Matt Betsey headed up cricket’s top coaching academy and has overseen the growth and progress of many youngsters now playing Sheffield Shield and Test cricket.

“These appointments are as much about retention as development,” Pascoe said. “We’re going along well. Our reserve grade side is sitting second, our 21’s are running first, our sponsorship and memberships are at record levels.

“Financially our balance sheet was minus $7 million — now it’s positive. This is why we can now go and invest in people like Noddy and Matt in such crucial roles.”

Friday night’s win over St George Illawarra has kept alive the Tigers’ hopes of playing finals football for the first time in 10 years.

Buzz pumping up our tyres, is he ok?

He's not really though, is he? It's a brief, 'just the facts' reports that - unlike most of his garbage - doesn't tell the audience what to think. If it was about the Sharks I guarantee it be be full of "the Sharks have all but secured their future as a rugby league powerhouse" - all we get is a straight report.

Sounds to me like Pascoe bought him a bottle of scotch if he mentions WT financials

No matter what people think of Pascoe a $7mil turn around into the black is an impressive achievement as supporters we probably expected to much to soon after the JT & Cleary debacles but onward and upward should be our new chant.

Think the NRL give us nearly that every year. He is not a saviour in my books until we can play footy.

100% of clubs spend the NRL grant on salary cap, and after that many lose money on overall spending, sometimes topped up by Leagues Clubs or sponsors.

The point about Pascoe and Tigers is he reversed the debt over many seasons, which you can't use the NRL grant to do, unless you wanttl to stop paying your players.

Looking at our squad compared to Melbourne, Easts or Penrith, I’d argue he’s effectively doing that. Probably not really in practice but as I said, until he gets the organisation playing football consistently I couldn’t give two hoots about the bank balance. We’re a footy team not a savings account.

You ever tried to pay for a footy team with a negative bank balance?

Many clubs continually operate at a loss and finish higher up the ladder than us.

Most, I'd say. I wonder how many Bronco fans are delighted with the club making a profit every year but missing the finals? We're a special breed.

Broncos can get the spoon for all i care
 
Wests Tigers have today announced a number of key additions to the club’s football department which will further strengthen its pathways and junior development programs.

Wests Tigers are pleased to welcome Matthew Betsey as its new Head of Pathways who joins the club after a successful stint as the Coaching and Development Manager at Cricket Australia — overseeing the growth and progress of many youngsters through cricket’s top academy.

Betsey will start with Wests Tigers in July alongside Brett Kimmorley, who has returned to the club in a Pathways and Coaching Manager role.

The 307-game halfback, who spent time with Wests Tigers as its NYC Holden Cup Coach in 2015, will take on a new role with the club working with junior development and academy set-up across the club while also focusing on coaching education.

Kimmorley’s experience will also be key for the club as he works with halves throughout Wests Tigers’ junior rugby league catchment areas.


Betsey and Kimmorley’s arrivals will also see David Fauonuku take on a new role with the club as he moves into a Junior Rugby League Coaching and Development Manager position.

Fauonuku has been with the club since 2019 — featuring as its Tarsha Gale Coach for the past few seasons — and will now concentrate on junior rugby league development as well as talent identification in both Wests Tigers men’s and women’s pathways programs.

Wests Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe said the new additions and changes highlighted the club’s continued focus on strengthening its pathways and development programs.

Wests Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe said the new additions and changes highlighted the club’s focus on strengthening its pathways and development programs.

“On behalf of all at the club, I’d like to welcome both Matthew and Brett to Wests Tigers and congratulate David on his new role,” Pascoe said.

“As a club, we’ve made significant progress in our pathways programs and are determined to continue to improve in this space and be known as a Development club.

“These additions to our football department will ensure we not only develop the best young talent across the Inner and South West of Sydney but also retain our excellent juniors coming through at the moment,” he said. “That is why investing in these roles is crucial in producing sustained success for the club both on and off the field.”

Betsey and Kimmorley will assume their new roles with Wests Tigers in July, while Fauonuku’s new role will begin in the coming weeks
https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/05/31/wests-tigers-further-strengthen-pathways-and-development-programs/
 
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Wests Tigers have today announced a number of key additions to the club’s football department which will further strengthen its pathways and junior development programs.

Wests Tigers are pleased to welcome Matthew Betsey as its new Head of Pathways who joins the club after a successful stint as the Coaching and Development Manager at Cricket Australia — overseeing the growth and progress of many youngsters through cricket’s top academy.

Betsey will start with Wests Tigers in July alongside Brett Kimmorley, who has returned to the club in a Pathways and Coaching Manager role.

The 307-game halfback, who spent time with Wests Tigers as its NYC Holden Cup Coach in 2015, will take on a new role with the club working with junior development and academy set-up across the club while also focusing on coaching education.

Kimmorley’s experience will also be key for the club as he works with halves throughout Wests Tigers’ junior rugby league catchment areas.


Betsey and Kimmorley’s arrivals will also see David Fauonuku take on a new role with the club as he moves into a Junior Rugby League Coaching and Development Manager position.

Fauonuku has been with the club since 2019 — featuring as its Tarsha Gale Coach for the past few seasons — and will now concentrate on junior rugby league development as well as talent identification in both Wests Tigers men’s and women’s pathways programs.

Wests Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe said the new additions and changes highlighted the club’s continued focus on strengthening its pathways and development programs.

Wests Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe said the new additions and changes highlighted the club’s focus on strengthening its pathways and development programs.

“On behalf of all at the club, I’d like to welcome both Matthew and Brett to Wests Tigers and congratulate David on his new role,” Pascoe said.

“As a club, we’ve made significant progress in our pathways programs and are determined to continue to improve in this space and be known as a Development club.

“These additions to our football department will ensure we not only develop the best young talent across the Inner and South West of Sydney but also retain our excellent juniors coming through at the moment,” he said. “That is why investing in these roles is crucial in producing sustained success for the club both on and off the field.”

Betsey and Kimmorley will assume their new roles with Wests Tigers in July, while Fauonuku’s new role will begin in the coming weeks
https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/05/31/wests-tigers-further-strengthen-pathways-and-development-programs/

Has this got something to do with Ronny P suddenly back on the water bottle again >>> ???
 
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@mighty_tiger said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377032) said:
@jirskyr said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1376879) said:
I'm super curious how you keep a guy like Israel Folau in the Wests junior catchment when he moves to Brisbane at 15 years old, because his dad got a job there. Typical stupid Buzz article.

He didn’t say that. And cmon its buzz he never has anything good to day about us.

It’s impossible to keep them all, people move for various reasons and some of those include moving to give the kids a pathway chance to play nrl. This isn’t just for u18s kids get tapped in the U12s upwards especially out west by Panthers and Parra to play in there junior comps etc.

Wouldn’t you prefer to have a crack at keeping the next Folau or just keep letting them go which we have a bad record of.

It's exactly what he says 2nd paragraph, players of "the calibre of xxx" . He could have said players of the calibre of Munster or Inglis, if he was talking in the generalities of ability.

When people want to argue about better engagement of Macarthur juniors they alwayd seem to point to Tedesco (who was captured by Wests, that's a success indicator), Hayne (Minto to junior Eel) and Folau, who moved.

I'm still yet to see the comprehensive list of top-shelf juniors produced consistently in the Macarthur, alone or in comparison to any other district.

My personal view is - by all means consolidate your pathways from Macarthur and Balmain, but there are a tonne of juniors all over, and for me its more about talent ID from any region.

The best players on our books right now aren't even from Macarthur.

I feel we are now one of the better club at identifying talent. We just need to develop and keep them.

Melbourne Storm have made a dynasty of recruiting junior talent from QLD, you just have to look in the right places and have a nose for junior talent.

Melbourne are the bench mark of any club playing atm. So by not having a local nursery of players, does this make a myth of having one ? Roosters would be in a similar position.

Just throwing it out there not saying it is right or wrong.
 
@happy_tiger said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1378037) said:
@wt2k said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377992) said:
Wests Tigers have today announced a number of key additions to the club’s football department which will further strengthen its pathways and junior development programs.

Wests Tigers are pleased to welcome Matthew Betsey as its new Head of Pathways who joins the club after a successful stint as the Coaching and Development Manager at Cricket Australia — overseeing the growth and progress of many youngsters through cricket’s top academy.

Betsey will start with Wests Tigers in July alongside Brett Kimmorley, who has returned to the club in a Pathways and Coaching Manager role.

The 307-game halfback, who spent time with Wests Tigers as its NYC Holden Cup Coach in 2015, will take on a new role with the club working with junior development and academy set-up across the club while also focusing on coaching education.

Kimmorley’s experience will also be key for the club as he works with halves throughout Wests Tigers’ junior rugby league catchment areas.


Betsey and Kimmorley’s arrivals will also see David Fauonuku take on a new role with the club as he moves into a Junior Rugby League Coaching and Development Manager position.

Fauonuku has been with the club since 2019 — featuring as its Tarsha Gale Coach for the past few seasons — and will now concentrate on junior rugby league development as well as talent identification in both Wests Tigers men’s and women’s pathways programs.

Wests Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe said the new additions and changes highlighted the club’s continued focus on strengthening its pathways and development programs.

Wests Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe said the new additions and changes highlighted the club’s focus on strengthening its pathways and development programs.

“On behalf of all at the club, I’d like to welcome both Matthew and Brett to Wests Tigers and congratulate David on his new role,” Pascoe said.

“As a club, we’ve made significant progress in our pathways programs and are determined to continue to improve in this space and be known as a Development club.

“These additions to our football department will ensure we not only develop the best young talent across the Inner and South West of Sydney but also retain our excellent juniors coming through at the moment,” he said. “That is why investing in these roles is crucial in producing sustained success for the club both on and off the field.”

Betsey and Kimmorley will assume their new roles with Wests Tigers in July, while Fauonuku’s new role will begin in the coming weeks
https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/05/31/wests-tigers-further-strengthen-pathways-and-development-programs/

Has this got something to do with Ronny P suddenly back on the water bottle again >>???

I think it was more a covid precaution
 
@bagnf05 said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377972) said:
@jirskyr said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377789) said:
@bagnf05 said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377686) said:
@jirskyr said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377050) said:
@bagnf05 said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1376991) said:
@elderslie_tiger said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1376984) said:
@bagnf05 said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1376981) said:
@2041 said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1376914) said:
@bagnf05 said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1376821) said:
@weststigers said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1376815) said:
A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE


Phil Rothfield
May 29, 2021 - 6:00PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom


The Wests Tigers are on the verge of signing former champion halfback Brett ‘Noddy’ Kimmorley to head up their pathways and junior development.

They hope it will ensure the next Campbelltown juniors of the calibre of James Tedesco, Jarryd Hayne and Israel Folau are captured and kept in their system.

The former NSW Blues and Kangaroos playmaker already has a tremendous knowledge of the game’s best young players through his coaching of emerging Blues for the NSWRL.

“We’ve refocused our strategy over the last couple of years,” Wests Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe said. “That means investing in pathways with the acquisition of someone like Noddy.

“He’s got a great reputation in the game and he’ll be outstanding.

“Imagine him working with young halves when we set up our academy.

“To have him talking to kids and their parents will be invaluable.”

The Wests Tigers have also signed one of Australian cricket’s top development strategists to work alongside Kimmorley.

Matt Betsey headed up cricket’s top coaching academy and has overseen the growth and progress of many youngsters now playing Sheffield Shield and Test cricket.

“These appointments are as much about retention as development,” Pascoe said. “We’re going along well. Our reserve grade side is sitting second, our 21’s are running first, our sponsorship and memberships are at record levels.

“Financially our balance sheet was minus $7 million — now it’s positive. This is why we can now go and invest in people like Noddy and Matt in such crucial roles.”

Friday night’s win over St George Illawarra has kept alive the Tigers’ hopes of playing finals football for the first time in 10 years.

Buzz pumping up our tyres, is he ok?

He's not really though, is he? It's a brief, 'just the facts' reports that - unlike most of his garbage - doesn't tell the audience what to think. If it was about the Sharks I guarantee it be be full of "the Sharks have all but secured their future as a rugby league powerhouse" - all we get is a straight report.

Sounds to me like Pascoe bought him a bottle of scotch if he mentions WT financials

No matter what people think of Pascoe a $7mil turn around into the black is an impressive achievement as supporters we probably expected to much to soon after the JT & Cleary debacles but onward and upward should be our new chant.

Think the NRL give us nearly that every year. He is not a saviour in my books until we can play footy.

100% of clubs spend the NRL grant on salary cap, and after that many lose money on overall spending, sometimes topped up by Leagues Clubs or sponsors.

The point about Pascoe and Tigers is he reversed the debt over many seasons, which you can't use the NRL grant to do, unless you wanttl to stop paying your players.

Looking at our squad compared to Melbourne, Easts or Penrith, I’d argue he’s effectively doing that. Probably not really in practice but as I said, until he gets the organisation playing football consistently I couldn’t give two hoots about the bank balance. We’re a footy team not a savings account.

You ever tried to pay for a footy team with a negative bank balance?

Many clubs continually operate at a loss and finish higher up the ladder than us.

BALMAIN & WESTS tried it a couple of years ago ????
 
@muffstar said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1378044) said:
@jirskyr said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377197) said:
@cochise said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377090) said:
@jirskyr said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377055) said:
@mighty_tiger said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377032) said:
@jirskyr said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1376879) said:
I'm super curious how you keep a guy like Israel Folau in the Wests junior catchment when he moves to Brisbane at 15 years old, because his dad got a job there. Typical stupid Buzz article.

He didn’t say that. And cmon its buzz he never has anything good to day about us.

It’s impossible to keep them all, people move for various reasons and some of those include moving to give the kids a pathway chance to play nrl. This isn’t just for u18s kids get tapped in the U12s upwards especially out west by Panthers and Parra to play in there junior comps etc.

Wouldn’t you prefer to have a crack at keeping the next Folau or just keep letting them go which we have a bad record of.

It's exactly what he says 2nd paragraph, players of "the calibre of xxx" . He could have said players of the calibre of Munster or Inglis, if he was talking in the generalities of ability.

When people want to argue about better engagement of Macarthur juniors they alwayd seem to point to Tedesco (who was captured by Wests, that's a success indicator), Hayne (Minto to junior Eel) and Folau, who moved.

I'm still yet to see the comprehensive list of top-shelf juniors produced consistently in the Macarthur, alone or in comparison to any other district.

My personal view is - by all means consolidate your pathways from Macarthur and Balmain, but there are a tonne of juniors all over, and for me its more about talent ID from any region.

The best players on our books right now aren't even from Macarthur.

I feel we are now one of the better club at identifying talent. We just need to develop and keep them.

Melbourne Storm have made a dynasty of recruiting junior talent from QLD, you just have to look in the right places and have a nose for junior talent.

Melbourne are the bench mark of any club playing atm. So by not having a local nursery of players, does this make a myth of having one ? Roosters would be in a similar position.

Just throwing it out there not saying it is right or wrong.

But if we can secure our players from a young age and instill a sense of pride and loyalty then that is our best method to prevent losing talented kids from our catchment to these sorts of clubs.

That, and more brown paper bags.
 
I like how the article made a point of Fanonuku scouting for both men's and women's talent.

I am assuming this story to be true as it's very factful and likely released directly from the club, so good to hear that we are intentionally focusing on strengthening our football club for both of those two genders.
 
@bagnf05 said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377972) said:
@jirskyr said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377789) said:
@bagnf05 said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377686) said:
@jirskyr said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377050) said:
@bagnf05 said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1376991) said:
@elderslie_tiger said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1376984) said:
@bagnf05 said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1376981) said:
@2041 said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1376914) said:
@bagnf05 said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1376821) said:
@weststigers said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1376815) said:
A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE


Phil Rothfield
May 29, 2021 - 6:00PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom


The Wests Tigers are on the verge of signing former champion halfback Brett ‘Noddy’ Kimmorley to head up their pathways and junior development.

They hope it will ensure the next Campbelltown juniors of the calibre of James Tedesco, Jarryd Hayne and Israel Folau are captured and kept in their system.

The former NSW Blues and Kangaroos playmaker already has a tremendous knowledge of the game’s best young players through his coaching of emerging Blues for the NSWRL.

“We’ve refocused our strategy over the last couple of years,” Wests Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe said. “That means investing in pathways with the acquisition of someone like Noddy.

“He’s got a great reputation in the game and he’ll be outstanding.

“Imagine him working with young halves when we set up our academy.

“To have him talking to kids and their parents will be invaluable.”

The Wests Tigers have also signed one of Australian cricket’s top development strategists to work alongside Kimmorley.

Matt Betsey headed up cricket’s top coaching academy and has overseen the growth and progress of many youngsters now playing Sheffield Shield and Test cricket.

“These appointments are as much about retention as development,” Pascoe said. “We’re going along well. Our reserve grade side is sitting second, our 21’s are running first, our sponsorship and memberships are at record levels.

“Financially our balance sheet was minus $7 million — now it’s positive. This is why we can now go and invest in people like Noddy and Matt in such crucial roles.”

Friday night’s win over St George Illawarra has kept alive the Tigers’ hopes of playing finals football for the first time in 10 years.

Buzz pumping up our tyres, is he ok?

He's not really though, is he? It's a brief, 'just the facts' reports that - unlike most of his garbage - doesn't tell the audience what to think. If it was about the Sharks I guarantee it be be full of "the Sharks have all but secured their future as a rugby league powerhouse" - all we get is a straight report.

Sounds to me like Pascoe bought him a bottle of scotch if he mentions WT financials

No matter what people think of Pascoe a $7mil turn around into the black is an impressive achievement as supporters we probably expected to much to soon after the JT & Cleary debacles but onward and upward should be our new chant.

Think the NRL give us nearly that every year. He is not a saviour in my books until we can play footy.

100% of clubs spend the NRL grant on salary cap, and after that many lose money on overall spending, sometimes topped up by Leagues Clubs or sponsors.

The point about Pascoe and Tigers is he reversed the debt over many seasons, which you can't use the NRL grant to do, unless you wanttl to stop paying your players.

Looking at our squad compared to Melbourne, Easts or Penrith, I’d argue he’s effectively doing that. Probably not really in practice but as I said, until he gets the organisation playing football consistently I couldn’t give two hoots about the bank balance. We’re a footy team not a savings account.

You ever tried to pay for a footy team with a negative bank balance?

Many clubs continually operate at a loss and finish higher up the ladder than us.

Which clubs are they?
 
@jirskyr said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1378238) said:
@bagnf05 said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377972) said:
@jirskyr said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377789) said:
@bagnf05 said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377686) said:
@jirskyr said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377050) said:
@bagnf05 said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1376991) said:
@elderslie_tiger said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1376984) said:
@bagnf05 said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1376981) said:
@2041 said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1376914) said:
@bagnf05 said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1376821) said:
@weststigers said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1376815) said:
A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE


Phil Rothfield
May 29, 2021 - 6:00PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom


The Wests Tigers are on the verge of signing former champion halfback Brett ‘Noddy’ Kimmorley to head up their pathways and junior development.

They hope it will ensure the next Campbelltown juniors of the calibre of James Tedesco, Jarryd Hayne and Israel Folau are captured and kept in their system.

The former NSW Blues and Kangaroos playmaker already has a tremendous knowledge of the game’s best young players through his coaching of emerging Blues for the NSWRL.

“We’ve refocused our strategy over the last couple of years,” Wests Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe said. “That means investing in pathways with the acquisition of someone like Noddy.

“He’s got a great reputation in the game and he’ll be outstanding.

“Imagine him working with young halves when we set up our academy.

“To have him talking to kids and their parents will be invaluable.”

The Wests Tigers have also signed one of Australian cricket’s top development strategists to work alongside Kimmorley.

Matt Betsey headed up cricket’s top coaching academy and has overseen the growth and progress of many youngsters now playing Sheffield Shield and Test cricket.

“These appointments are as much about retention as development,” Pascoe said. “We’re going along well. Our reserve grade side is sitting second, our 21’s are running first, our sponsorship and memberships are at record levels.

“Financially our balance sheet was minus $7 million — now it’s positive. This is why we can now go and invest in people like Noddy and Matt in such crucial roles.”

Friday night’s win over St George Illawarra has kept alive the Tigers’ hopes of playing finals football for the first time in 10 years.

Buzz pumping up our tyres, is he ok?

He's not really though, is he? It's a brief, 'just the facts' reports that - unlike most of his garbage - doesn't tell the audience what to think. If it was about the Sharks I guarantee it be be full of "the Sharks have all but secured their future as a rugby league powerhouse" - all we get is a straight report.

Sounds to me like Pascoe bought him a bottle of scotch if he mentions WT financials

No matter what people think of Pascoe a $7mil turn around into the black is an impressive achievement as supporters we probably expected to much to soon after the JT & Cleary debacles but onward and upward should be our new chant.

Think the NRL give us nearly that every year. He is not a saviour in my books until we can play footy.

100% of clubs spend the NRL grant on salary cap, and after that many lose money on overall spending, sometimes topped up by Leagues Clubs or sponsors.

The point about Pascoe and Tigers is he reversed the debt over many seasons, which you can't use the NRL grant to do, unless you wanttl to stop paying your players.

Looking at our squad compared to Melbourne, Easts or Penrith, I’d argue he’s effectively doing that. Probably not really in practice but as I said, until he gets the organisation playing football consistently I couldn’t give two hoots about the bank balance. We’re a footy team not a savings account.

You ever tried to pay for a footy team with a negative bank balance?

Many clubs continually operate at a loss and finish higher up the ladder than us.

Which clubs are they?


Take out the COVID year as it was an anomaly and look at 2019, Parra, Cronulla and Penrith all had operating losses. All teams having much more on field success than us. It’s not how much money you’re banking it’s what you’re doing with the expenditure. Buying washed up footy players isn’t advisable.
 
@wt2k said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377992) said:
Wests Tigers have today announced a number of key additions to the club’s football department which will further strengthen its pathways and junior development programs.

Wests Tigers are pleased to welcome Matthew Betsey as its new Head of Pathways who joins the club after a successful stint as the Coaching and Development Manager at Cricket Australia — overseeing the growth and progress of many youngsters through cricket’s top academy.

Betsey will start with Wests Tigers in July alongside Brett Kimmorley, who has returned to the club in a Pathways and Coaching Manager role.

The 307-game halfback, who spent time with Wests Tigers as its NYC Holden Cup Coach in 2015, will take on a new role with the club working with junior development and academy set-up across the club while also focusing on coaching education.

Kimmorley’s experience will also be key for the club as he works with halves throughout Wests Tigers’ junior rugby league catchment areas.


Betsey and Kimmorley’s arrivals will also see David Fauonuku take on a new role with the club as he moves into a Junior Rugby League Coaching and Development Manager position.

Fauonuku has been with the club since 2019 — featuring as its Tarsha Gale Coach for the past few seasons — and will now concentrate on junior rugby league development as well as talent identification in both Wests Tigers men’s and women’s pathways programs.

Wests Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe said the new additions and changes highlighted the club’s continued focus on strengthening its pathways and development programs.

Wests Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe said the new additions and changes highlighted the club’s focus on strengthening its pathways and development programs.

“On behalf of all at the club, I’d like to welcome both Matthew and Brett to Wests Tigers and congratulate David on his new role,” Pascoe said.

“As a club, we’ve made significant progress in our pathways programs and are determined to continue to improve in this space and be known as a Development club.

“These additions to our football department will ensure we not only develop the best young talent across the Inner and South West of Sydney but also retain our excellent juniors coming through at the moment,” he said. “That is why investing in these roles is crucial in producing sustained success for the club both on and off the field.”

Betsey and Kimmorley will assume their new roles with Wests Tigers in July, while Fauonuku’s new role will begin in the coming weeks
https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/05/31/wests-tigers-further-strengthen-pathways-and-development-programs/

So basically he is taking up the role Hodgo was supposed to have.
 
@cochise said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1378310) said:
@wt2k said in [A NOD TO TIGERS’ FUTURE](/post/1377992) said:
Wests Tigers have today announced a number of key additions to the club’s football department which will further strengthen its pathways and junior development programs.

Wests Tigers are pleased to welcome Matthew Betsey as its new Head of Pathways who joins the club after a successful stint as the Coaching and Development Manager at Cricket Australia — overseeing the growth and progress of many youngsters through cricket’s top academy.

Betsey will start with Wests Tigers in July alongside Brett Kimmorley, who has returned to the club in a Pathways and Coaching Manager role.

The 307-game halfback, who spent time with Wests Tigers as its NYC Holden Cup Coach in 2015, will take on a new role with the club working with junior development and academy set-up across the club while also focusing on coaching education.

Kimmorley’s experience will also be key for the club as he works with halves throughout Wests Tigers’ junior rugby league catchment areas.


Betsey and Kimmorley’s arrivals will also see David Fauonuku take on a new role with the club as he moves into a Junior Rugby League Coaching and Development Manager position.

Fauonuku has been with the club since 2019 — featuring as its Tarsha Gale Coach for the past few seasons — and will now concentrate on junior rugby league development as well as talent identification in both Wests Tigers men’s and women’s pathways programs.

Wests Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe said the new additions and changes highlighted the club’s continued focus on strengthening its pathways and development programs.

Wests Tigers CEO Justin Pascoe said the new additions and changes highlighted the club’s focus on strengthening its pathways and development programs.

“On behalf of all at the club, I’d like to welcome both Matthew and Brett to Wests Tigers and congratulate David on his new role,” Pascoe said.

“As a club, we’ve made significant progress in our pathways programs and are determined to continue to improve in this space and be known as a Development club.

“These additions to our football department will ensure we not only develop the best young talent across the Inner and South West of Sydney but also retain our excellent juniors coming through at the moment,” he said. “That is why investing in these roles is crucial in producing sustained success for the club both on and off the field.”

Betsey and Kimmorley will assume their new roles with Wests Tigers in July, while Fauonuku’s new role will begin in the coming weeks
https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2021/05/31/wests-tigers-further-strengthen-pathways-and-development-programs/

So basically he is taking up the role Hodgo was supposed to have.
Hodgo was a great player, he was an average coach….just like Pearce
 

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