A victory for how the game should be played

[happy_tiger]

Good to see kiwis win yesterday. They were by far the better side.

Aussies can only lament the number of injuries pre-tournament but it also allays the myth that Australia could pick a second or third rate team and still win.

It also highlights the weaknesses of coach Tim Sheens. To pick a squad with bugger all front row forwards assumed that he would implement a mobile game plan to run the bigger blokes around. However, what I saw was second rowers playing in the front row who continually tucked the ball under their arm. Not to mention those same people missing too many tackles on opposition front rowers

I can understand a club coach having to deal with limited selection of props taking into account injuries and the salary cap but a national coach not picking an appropriate number of specialist props in a squad from the entire NRL competition? It just beggars belief.

Don't get me started on Dylan Walker. Completely out of his depth.

Tim Sheens will get his contract extended but he will never be an NRL coach again.

Thank you New Zealand. You have put the fly in our ointment. Well played.

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Whoever was to coach Australia next season only gets one game in charge

There is no 4 nations and just the Anzac Day test in 2015

I hope they have something massive planned

So much for the plans they had to play the game in Turkey ????

 

[Tony33]

Which front rowers that were available should of been picked ? I honestly can't think of any quality front rowers that should've been picked. Front row is not our strongest position.

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[happy_tiger]

Which front rowers that were available should of been picked ? I honestly can't think of any quality front rowers that should've been picked. Front row is not our strongest position.

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Ben Hannant for one , it was more a size issue

All we needed was an equal footing v NZ in the forwards and our spine would of got the job done in my opinion

As I said last night I can't remember an Australian side so badly dominated in the forwards for 30 years

 

[Geo]

Sheens gets bagged yet the Australian selectors of Des Morris, Allan Smith, Bob Fulton and Bob McCarthy get off scott free….go figure....

 

[happy_tiger]

Sheens gets bagged yet the Australian selectors of Des Morris, Allan Smith, Bob Fulton and Bob McCarthy get off scott free….go figure....

What Geo , and you don't think a coach who is worth his salt tells the selectors what he wants side wise and style wise

And if he doesn't get it he tells the selectors to start again

 

[Geo]

Yes the coach has input much like the Australian Cricket team but at the end of the day it's the selectors job to select the squad…it is then the Coaches job to get the best out of that squad....why have selectors then?

Given what's gone on in the past with this mob nothing surprises me selection wise..

 

[cktiger]

Congratulating, and even salivating, over a team beating Australia?
:unamused:
Not in my lifetime, thanks anyway.

Nah, lets just blame the ref and claim there was a conspiracy from the outset of the tournament to make sure the Aussies lost it.

That sounds so much better.

Sorry boys, but I get no joy from any team beating Australia.
Congratulations to them if you like, but to be honest I didn't think they even went that well - scraping home against a team without half their top players who were being coached by someone who doesn't believe in front rowers plus being refereed by an Englishman!
All you Kiwis can go and enjoy yourselves now.

I'm not a Kiwi and I enjoyed the game for what it was. The Kiwi's played Rugby League how it should be played. Fast, aggressive, skillfully and with determination.

**What was not to enjoy?**

Lay off the Kool-aid.

Australia lost - that's what not to enjoy.
The Germans fought pretty good in WW2 but I wasn't cheering them to a win.

 

[tigerbalm]

Nah, lets just blame the ref and claim there was a conspiracy from the outset of the tournament to make sure the Aussies lost it.

That sounds so much better.

Sorry boys, but I get no joy from any team beating Australia.
Congratulations to them if you like, but to be honest I didn't think they even went that well - scraping home against a team without half their top players who were being coached by someone who doesn't believe in front rowers plus being refereed by an Englishman!
All you Kiwis can go and enjoy yourselves now.

I'm not a Kiwi and I enjoyed the game for what it was. The Kiwi's played Rugby League how it should be played. Fast, aggressive, skillfully and with determination.

**What was not to enjoy?**

Lay off the Kool-aid.

Australia lost - that's what not to enjoy.
The Germans fought pretty good in WW2 but I wasn't cheering them to a win.

Wow.

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[steve-o]

Wow indeed. What a bad comparison. I'm a proud Aussie, but for the good of rugby league I think it's great NZ won last night

 

[cktiger]

Do you guys seriously think the Kiwis would be thinking ' Gee it would be good for rugby to see the All Blacks lose more often?'
Not in a million years!
Or,for that matter, any other nation think similarly?
What a defeatist mentality.
Let's all celebrate we lost and sing kumbaya together.

 

[Tigermama]

Congratulating, and even salivating, over a team beating Australia?
:unamused:
Not in my lifetime, thanks anyway.

Nah, lets just blame the ref and claim there was a conspiracy from the outset of the tournament to make sure the Aussies lost it.

That sounds so much better.

Sorry boys, but I get no joy from any team beating Australia.
Congratulations to them if you like, but to be honest I didn't think they even went that well - scraping home against a team without half their top players who were being coached by someone who doesn't believe in front rowers plus being refereed by an Englishman!
All you Kiwis can go and enjoy yourselves now.

Come on cktiger….....go get yourself a stiff drink and forget about it. Remember there's always next time :slight_smile:

 

[cktiger]

I am having a beer and singing kumbaya as you read this, Tigermama.
I do, however, prefer the option of the other team thinking there's always a next time.

 

[Tigermama]

Good to see kiwis win yesterday. They were by far the better side.

Aussies can only lament the number of injuries pre-tournament but it also allays the myth that Australia could pick a second or third rate team and still win.

It also highlights the weaknesses of coach Tim Sheens. To pick a squad with bugger all front row forwards assumed that he would implement a mobile game plan to run the bigger blokes around. However, what I saw was second rowers playing in the front row who continually tucked the ball under their arm. Not to mention those same people missing too many tackles on opposition front rowers

I can understand a club coach having to deal with limited selection of props taking into account injuries and the salary cap but a national coach not picking an appropriate number of specialist props in a squad from the entire NRL competition? It just beggars belief.

Don't get me started on Dylan Walker. Completely out of his depth.

Tim Sheens will get his contract extended but he will never be an NRL coach again.

Thank you New Zealand. You have put the fly in our ointment. Well played.

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Good to see you you had that stiff drink cktiger :wink: good man for acknowledging NZ was the better team cq ):

 

[GNR4LIFE]

So angry Ck, i'd hate to see how angry and bitter you'd get if the tournament actually had significance.

 

[cktiger]

So angry Ck, i'd hate to see how angry and bitter you'd get if the tournament actually had significance.

I'm not angry or bitter at all, Gunner.
I just don't take any pleasure or like to see my country lose…any game.
Some people obviously don't share my view.
Oh, and ask a Kiwi if it had any significance.

 

[steve-o]

Do you guys seriously think the Kiwis would be thinking ' Gee it would be good for rugby to see the All Blacks lose more often?'
Not in a million years!
Or,for that matter, any other nation think similarly?
What a defeatist mentality.
Let's all celebrate we lost and sing kumbaya together.

Union is different, their international game is a lot more competitive than in rugby league.
I just love rugby league so much that I want the international game to succeed. That's not going to happen if an injury ravaged Aussie team beat a full strength NZ team

 

[supercoach]

The ref played a massive part in making it such a good game. He did not try to grandstand, he was not pedantic, he let a few little things go, so good to see after what we were served up this year by the whistle blowers in the NRL.

Also the Kiwis did what they had to, they got on top of the 17 players they were playing against and went onto win the game and that is all the had to do. In the end a TEAM of 17 Kiwis beat 17 Aussie, I did not see much in the way of team work from Australia all series.

 

[Jerry_Seinfeld]

Not in my lifetime, thanks anyway.
Nah, lets just blame the ref and claim there was a conspiracy from the outset of the tournament to make sure the Aussies lost it.

That sounds so much better.

Sorry boys, but I get no joy from any team beating Australia.
Congratulations to them if you like, but to be honest I didn't think they even went that well - scraping home against a team without half their top players who were being coached by someone who doesn't believe in front rowers plus being refereed by an Englishman!
All you Kiwis can go and enjoy yourselves now.

I'm not a Kiwi and I enjoyed the game for what it was. The Kiwi's played Rugby League how it should be played. Fast, aggressive, skillfully and with determination.

**What was not to enjoy?**

Lay off the Kool-aid.

Australia lost - that's what not to enjoy.
The Germans fought pretty good in WW2 but I wasn't cheering them to a win.
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CK get over it pal.We lost it happens.I am fierecely a proud Aussie myself(and family fought the germans in ww2 in the Australian army)but the game of rugby league does get stronger with a kiwi win and the strong performance shown by the poms and especially the Samoans.If it makes you feel any better we did field a second strength team so tell yourself that all off season to cheer up a little bit.Congrats to the kiwis and also the poms and Samoans who acquitted themselves very well.

 

[pHyR3]

go the kiwis! fantastic game, unfortunately i missed it but watched the replay last night.

shaun johnson just chucked a benji marshall haha

I think Johnson is arguably better than Marshall ever was. Footwork is exactly the same, a fantastic cut out pass, leaves Benji for dead in the speed department, Benji never had that explosive pace that Johnson has, nor has he ever had the physical strength to break tackles as he breaks the line the way SJ does.

oh undoubtedly, SJ's kicking and ability to control the flow of a game is miles ahead of benji.

and his flair and 'magic' is just as good.

 

[pHyR3]

Do you guys seriously think the Kiwis would be thinking ' Gee it would be good for rugby to see the All Blacks lose more often?'
Not in a million years!
Or,for that matter, any other nation think similarly?
What a defeatist mentality.
Let's all celebrate we lost and sing kumbaya together.

no one is asking cameron smith, GI and cronk to throw a party celebrating the loss.

but its understandable for people trying to take a neutral perspective of international rugby league, to see that australia losing is usually good for RL.

as a supporter of the All Blacks, i want them to continue to dominate. But the difference there is ive been through YEARS of being made fun of for being 'chokers' in world cups having only won one RUWC before the 2011 one.