Allan Fitzgibbon- Sacked

[Bula]

Oh well. I won't lose sleep over him. Disgusting thing he did. Hope the woman is okay.

What exactly is he alleged to have done exactly?

He has been charged with domestic violence and that's all we know.

Obviously anything like this directed towards a female is frowned upon so it shouldn't Matter exactly what he did, he did the wrong thing.

Like Josh Reynolds?

I don't want to speculate.

We saw the video of Josh and that would be considered domestic violence... the verbal stuff.
The rest was dismissed in court I believe... dje to some dishonesty from the woman.

We'll let this one takes it course of action and see how it plays out... or we can just forget about him as he fades into obscurity.

Exactly right but standard management ploy to sack a sqaddy to make a public point.

 

[mike]

As good as R.Lui was it always annoyed me the club didnt tear up his contract the first time he did it.Men who assault women should never be a part of our club.I am pleased the club took the action it did and hope that will always be the case in the future.
I dont care about how good he could have been we dont need or want behaviour like that from anyone.

Learnt from their mistakes maybe.
Hard stance from there on out.

Seeya Al.
Just somebody that we use to know....

Ok Gotye.

 

[Demps]

As good as R.Lui was it always annoyed me the club didnt tear up his contract the first time he did it.Men who assault women should never be a part of our club.I am pleased the club took the action it did and hope that will always be the case in the future.
I dont care about how good he could have been we dont need or want behaviour like that from anyone.

Learnt from their mistakes maybe.
Hard stance from there on out.

Seeya Al.
Just somebody that we use to know....

Ok Gotye.


 

[Tiger5150]

The good news is the incident was reported and the young lady can be protected and given counselling. For Allan, I hope the young fellow receives assistance especially from community leaders.


from social media comments it doesn't appear he understands its not ok.

I feel overwhelming sadness about this development. I hope he receives the assistance he needs.


medicare provides free sessions. Our club should run unless you think we should support DV?

Education is the key. Sessions run by the club I believe is a great initiative especially when the NRL promotes the involvement of women in rugby league.

And your questioning me about supporting DV is disgusting and I find it offensive. Clean up your act.

it was a question sunshine.

I'll state it more cleanly.

WHY SHOULD WE SUPPORT HIM?

It was offensive.

Providing support/counselling to an alleged perpetrator of this type of behaviour may protect another women in future. The whole of society benefits.

Throw all the resources you want at him…in my experience, leopards don’t change their spots. I won’t judge based on lack of detail/evidence to us but if there was no reason to “re-educate” him he would still be employed.

I hope any potential victim is ok in this circumstance

You're :100: correct @Tiger-ferret re Leopards.

But most people whether male or female can be shown the right and proper way to go about things if they are given the support and education needed to not re-offend, then hopefully thereafter lead a happy and productive life while at the same time not hurting anyone else.
If the offence they committed was serious enough, sure they have to be punished in a way fitting the offence though.

Why is it the clubs responsibility to educate him to lead a happy health life where he doesnt beat up women? Seriously.

Point him in the right direction (maybe the aboriginal groups we are associated with ) but if you throw away the opportunity provided to you, I dont see the clubs responsibility.

 

[Tiger5150]

Oh well. I won't lose sleep over him. Disgusting thing he did. Hope the woman is okay.

What exactly is he alleged to have done exactly?

He has been charged with domestic violence and that's all we know.

Obviously anything like this directed towards a female is frowned upon so it shouldn't Matter exactly what he did, he did the wrong thing.

Like Josh Reynolds?

I don't want to speculate.

We saw the video of Josh and that would be considered domestic violence... the verbal stuff.
The rest was dismissed in court I believe... dje to some dishonesty from the woman.

We'll let this one takes it course of action and see how it plays out... or we can just forget about him as he fades into obscurity.

Exactly right but standard management ploy to sack a sqaddy to make a public point.

What rubbish. The club didnt do this, Allan Fitzgibbon did it. It takes a strong agenda to turn this into a criticism of the club.

 

[Demps]

Oh well. I won't lose sleep over him. Disgusting thing he did. Hope the woman is okay.

What exactly is he alleged to have done exactly?

He has been charged with domestic violence and that's all we know.

Obviously anything like this directed towards a female is frowned upon so it shouldn't Matter exactly what he did, he did the wrong thing.

Like Josh Reynolds?

I don't want to speculate.

We saw the video of Josh and that would be considered domestic violence... the verbal stuff.
The rest was dismissed in court I believe... dje to some dishonesty from the woman.

We'll let this one takes it course of action and see how it plays out... or we can just forget about him as he fades into obscurity.

Exactly right but standard management ploy to sack a sqaddy to make a public point.


What rubbish. The club didnt do this, Allan Fitzgibbon did it. It takes a strong agenda to turn this into a criticism of the club.

His girlfriend is keen for a chat about it, if you're interested....

It's badder than initially expected.

 

[Tiger5150]

Oh well. I won't lose sleep over him. Disgusting thing he did. Hope the woman is okay.

What exactly is he alleged to have done exactly?

He has been charged with domestic violence and that's all we know.

Obviously anything like this directed towards a female is frowned upon so it shouldn't Matter exactly what he did, he did the wrong thing.

Like Josh Reynolds?

I don't want to speculate.

We saw the video of Josh and that would be considered domestic violence... the verbal stuff.
The rest was dismissed in court I believe... dje to some dishonesty from the woman.

We'll let this one takes it course of action and see how it plays out... or we can just forget about him as he fades into obscurity.

Exactly right but standard management ploy to sack a sqaddy to make a public point.


What rubbish. The club didnt do this, Allan Fitzgibbon did it. It takes a strong agenda to turn this into a criticism of the club.

His girlfriend is keen for a chat about it, if you're interested....

It's badder than initially expected.
Discord exclusive.

I dont do discord, Im technically challenged. Ill have to die ingnorant, or you could DM me.

 

[Demps]

Oh well. I won't lose sleep over him. Disgusting thing he did. Hope the woman is okay.

What exactly is he alleged to have done exactly?

He has been charged with domestic violence and that's all we know.

Obviously anything like this directed towards a female is frowned upon so it shouldn't Matter exactly what he did, he did the wrong thing.

Like Josh Reynolds?

I don't want to speculate.

We saw the video of Josh and that would be considered domestic violence... the verbal stuff.
The rest was dismissed in court I believe... dje to some dishonesty from the woman.

We'll let this one takes it course of action and see how it plays out... or we can just forget about him as he fades into obscurity.

Exactly right but standard management ploy to sack a sqaddy to make a public point.


What rubbish. The club didnt do this, Allan Fitzgibbon did it. It takes a strong agenda to turn this into a criticism of the club.

His girlfriend is keen for a chat about it, if you're interested....

It's badder than initially expected.
Discord exclusive.


I dont do discord, Im technically challenged. Ill have to die ingnorant, or you could DM me.

Might be in the news soon....

Probably would be already if he was a more well known player.

@Moh knows more than me.

 

[balmain boy]

I don't think the club has handled this well. Why is there the need to specifically mention DV in the announcement? Completely unnecessary. Just say he had been released due to an off field matter. Would Souths have said this? No. Even when releasing Roberts they were neutral at worst. Then there's the likes of Scott, Munster, Tetevano and many others who've had things swept under the carpet.

And we've been extremely quick to judge him as guilty. Obviously we don't know the accusations or the proof, but he's apparently been charged. Why not just stand him down until the investigation is complete? Provide him with education.

Did Manly sack Walker?

We're a club trying to recruit indigenous talent, sacking a player immediately after an charge and then distancing ourselves from the player is not the way to go about building trust in the community. Historically indigenous players have had issues with alcohol which has occasionally led to violence. Are we going to sack everyone who commits an offence? Support and education is key and we should have made more of an effort to do this, especially in NAIDOC week. I know the club does group sessions but his much individual support do we provide our players?

Obviously if he's guilty he cops the punishment of the law and the club but it seems we've jumped the gun on this one and lost one of our most promising juniors in the process. As the least desirable club in the league can we afford to take the moral high ground that other clubs don't?

 

[Aceshigh]

Bottom line is the fool bashed a woman , there is no excuse for it , end of story.

 

[Demps]

Bottom line is the fool bashed a woman , there is no excuse for it , end of story.

💯

Expect more info next week.

 

[BZN]

The good news is the incident was reported and the young lady can be protected and given counselling. For Allan, I hope the young fellow receives assistance especially from community leaders.


from social media comments it doesn't appear he understands its not ok.

I feel overwhelming sadness about this development. I hope he receives the assistance he needs.


medicare provides free sessions. Our club should run unless you think we should support DV?

Education is the key. Sessions run by the club I believe is a great initiative especially when the NRL promotes the involvement of women in rugby league.

And your questioning me about supporting DV is disgusting and I find it offensive. Clean up your act.

it was a question sunshine.

I'll state it more cleanly.

WHY SHOULD WE SUPPORT HIM?

It was offensive.

Providing support/counselling to an alleged perpetrator of this type of behaviour may protect another women in future. The whole of society benefits.

Throw all the resources you want at him…in my experience, leopards don’t change their spots. I won’t judge based on lack of detail/evidence to us but if there was no reason to “re-educate” him he would still be employed.

I hope any potential victim is ok in this circumstance

You're :100: correct @Tiger-ferret re Leopards.

But most people whether male or female can be shown the right and proper way to go about things if they are given the support and education needed to not re-offend, then hopefully thereafter lead a happy and productive life while at the same time not hurting anyone else.
If the offence they committed was serious enough, sure they have to be punished in a way fitting the offence though.


Why is it the clubs responsibility to educate him to lead a happy health life where he doesnt beat up women? Seriously.

Point him in the right direction (maybe the aboriginal groups we are associated with ) but if you throw away the opportunity provided to you, I dont see the clubs responsibility.

G'day @Tiger5150.
I've sat at my comp for at least an hour trying to put my thoughts in regard to this in a comprehensible way, but just not able to achieve that atm.
So I'll just say basically I agree with you.

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

Nah got no time for that dont let the door hit you in the arse on the way out fella. I have a daughter and if anyone so much as laid a finger on her they'd get a hell of a flogging.

 

[Demps]

Nah got no time for that dont let the door hit you in the arse on the way out fella. I have a daughter and if anyone so much as laid a finger on her they'd get a hell of a flogging.

Get to share a cell with the DV perpetrator

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

Nah got no time for that dont let the door hit you in the arse on the way out fella. I have a daughter and if anyone so much as laid a finger on her they'd get a hell of a flogging.

Get to share a cell with the DV perpetrator

worth it

 

[Demps]

Nah got no time for that dont let the door hit you in the arse on the way out fella. I have a daughter and if anyone so much as laid a finger on her they'd get a hell of a flogging.

Get to share a cell with the DV perpetrator

worth it

?❤ love it

 

[balmain boy]

Bottom line is the fool bashed a woman , there is no excuse for it , end of story.

How do you know what he did?

 

[Demps]

Bottom line is the fool bashed a woman , there is no excuse for it , end of story.

How do you know what he did?

I'll send u a PM

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The good news is the incident was reported and the young lady can be protected and given counselling. For Allan, I hope the young fellow receives assistance especially from community leaders.


from social media comments it doesn't appear he understands its not ok.

I feel overwhelming sadness about this development. I hope he receives the assistance he needs.


medicare provides free sessions. Our club should run unless you think we should support DV?

Education is the key. Sessions run by the club I believe is a great initiative especially when the NRL promotes the involvement of women in rugby league.

And your questioning me about supporting DV is disgusting and I find it offensive. Clean up your act.

it was a question sunshine.

I'll state it more cleanly.

WHY SHOULD WE SUPPORT HIM?

It was offensive.

Providing support/counselling to an alleged perpetrator of this type of behaviour may protect another women in future. The whole of society benefits.

Throw all the resources you want at him…in my experience, leopards don’t change their spots. I won’t judge based on lack of detail/evidence to us but if there was no reason to “re-educate” him he would still be employed.

I hope any potential victim is ok in this circumstance

You're :100: correct @Tiger-ferret re Leopards.

But most people whether male or female can be shown the right and proper way to go about things if they are given the support and education needed to not re-offend, then hopefully thereafter lead a happy and productive life while at the same time not hurting anyone else.
If the offence they committed was serious enough, sure they have to be punished in a way fitting the offence though.


Why is it the clubs responsibility to educate him to lead a happy health life where he doesnt beat up women? Seriously.

Point him in the right direction (maybe the aboriginal groups we are associated with ) but if you throw away the opportunity provided to you, I dont see the clubs responsibility.

It is a reasonable question you ask. Magpies is contemplating his response. My answer is because WTs can.

 

[Guest]

I don't think the club has handled this well. Why is there the need to specifically mention DV in the announcement? Completely unnecessary. Just say he had been released due to an off field matter. Would Souths have said this? No. Even when releasing Roberts they were neutral at worst. Then there's the likes of Scott, Munster, Tetevano and many others who've had things swept under the carpet.

And we've been extremely quick to judge him as guilty. Obviously we don't know the accusations or the proof, but he's apparently been charged. Why not just stand him down until the investigation is complete? Provide him with education.

Did Manly sack Walker?

We're a club trying to recruit indigenous talent, sacking a player immediately after an charge and then distancing ourselves from the player is not the way to go about building trust in the community. Historically indigenous players have had issues with alcohol which has occasionally led to violence. Are we going to sack everyone who commits an offence? Support and education is key and we should have made more of an effort to do this, especially in NAIDOC week. I know the club does group sessions but his much individual support do we provide our players?

Obviously if he's guilty he cops the punishment of the law and the club but it seems we've jumped the gun on this one and lost one of our most promising juniors in the process. As the least desirable club in the league can we afford to take the moral high ground that other clubs don't?

I don't have a problem with the club's action and stance on this matter whatsoever. He's been charged, therefore a statement of facts has been written which would have been made available to Fitzgibbon's legal rep and most likely the club which would have provided background and led to the decision being taken.