Aloiai

[Deleted member 3518]

Sorry guys too lazy to post article.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/sea-eagles/nrl-2021-manlywarringah-sea-eagles-josh-aloiai-wests-tigers-exit-mow-the-lawns-meme/news-story/df6f38b4b0b7dc38b66e49f4015bfdf4

Two things stand out for me:

Was never about the money and wants to play finals. If the numbers are correct he's set to earn a massive upgrade money wise so to say it's not about the money is a bit rich.

Secondly Manly's roster apart from the Turbo brothers is pretty ordinary. I don't think even with an injury free Tom they'll make the 8. He goes down again they most certainly won't.

I know the story first hand and as a massive Tigers fan it’s an interesting one.

He is getting a big pay rise at Manly but was willing to take less at the Tigers to stay as he was comfortable here.

Hartigan is a ruthless and often disrespectful businessman and came through with a shocking first offer with a 24 hr deadline which Josh was angered by and therefore asked for an immediate release ... BUT... Hartigan’s work in recruitment this off-season makes me feel that oftentimes the best businessmen are ruthless and I think he is ultimately turning the club in the right direction.

Disappointing how it turned out though because Madge wanted to keep Josh and saw him as next in line to the captaincy.

This is very inaccurate. Not even close to the truth

This website may as well be named adamhartiganfanclub.com. You'll struggle to find friends here with a story like that.

It’s hard to argue with . He’s replaced Eisenhuth , Clarke , and Josh , with Tamou , Stefano and Joe O. 2 plodders and a guy who played 1 good season , to our now captain , an origin player off a down year , and the highest rated prop coming through the grades . And that’s just 1 position .

 

[Tiger5150]

Sorry guys too lazy to post article.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/sea-eagles/nrl-2021-manlywarringah-sea-eagles-josh-aloiai-wests-tigers-exit-mow-the-lawns-meme/news-story/df6f38b4b0b7dc38b66e49f4015bfdf4

Two things stand out for me:

Was never about the money and wants to play finals. If the numbers are correct he's set to earn a massive upgrade money wise so to say it's not about the money is a bit rich.

Secondly Manly's roster apart from the Turbo brothers is pretty ordinary. I don't think even with an injury free Tom they'll make the 8. He goes down again they most certainly won't.

I know the story first hand and as a massive Tigers fan it’s an interesting one.

He is getting a big pay rise at Manly but was willing to take less at the Tigers to stay as he was comfortable here.

Hartigan is a ruthless and often disrespectful businessman and came through with a shocking first offer with a 24 hr deadline which Josh was angered by and therefore asked for an immediate release ... BUT... Hartigan’s work in recruitment this off-season makes me feel that oftentimes the best businessmen are ruthless and I think he is ultimately turning the club in the right direction.

Disappointing how it turned out though because Madge wanted to keep Josh and saw him as next in line to the captaincy.

This is very inaccurate. Not even close to the truth

This website may as well be named adamhartiganfanclub.com. You'll struggle to find friends here with a story like that.

It’s hard to argue with . He’s replaced Eisenhuth , Clarke , and Josh , with Tamou , Stefano and Joe O. 2 plodders and a guy who played 1 good season , to our now captain , an origin player off a down year , and the highest rated prop coming through the grades . And that’s just 1 position .

Matterson =>Blore

 

[jirskyr]

I was told the 24-hour deadline was only given to Aloiai after Tigers got word he was speaking to Manly, and it only applied to the offer that was already in front of him.

It's not like the Tigers gave him a fresh offer with a 1-day take/leave deadline. That just makes no sense - why would Tigers drop such an abrupt and aggressive offer on Aloiai after carefully developing him over so many seasons and different administrations? Esp. with a year remaining on his contract.

I can totally understand that Aloiai may have been aware that other forwards were getting paid more than him, and it may have been upsetting to him. We all know there were/are players in the roster who aren't giving an appropriate return on investment.

HOWEVER you can't just do to your employer demanding to match or beat the salary of someone you "think" you are better than, esp. when that person was signed by a previous coach. I was told that the club originally gave Aloiai an offer that they felt matched his output, status in the club and future potential - and he was stalling in making a decision. Time has shown that Aloiai was stalling because he was negotiating with another club.

Tigers are certainly being much more selective and strict with roster management. On paper this approach is working out on the positive side of the ledger.

 

[mike]

It is obviously the money.
If Tommy Turbo misses 10+ games (which seems likely due to his lack of hamstrings) Manly can't make finals, he is part of everything they do.

I honestly can't believe they have him at the price point they do and then also turned around and paid us a whack of money to get him early. I guess Des will be Des.

He’s bamboozled by stats . The same guy who thought Aiden Tollman was the best front rower in the game. Sometimes stats don’t tell the whole story .

You can say that again. !!!

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

By the time the season kicks off I think it will be a case of JOSH WHO????

 

[hobbo1]

24 sleeps peeps
Let’s keep it civil 😂

 

[Leck]

Another lame, poorly written, FOXbait piece of rubbish article. George Clarke is obviously worried about hitting his quota this week.

Here’s the real story.

Josh and his questionable manager Tyran Smith asked for a big money upgrade based on an ok season from JA - we said no.

Des and Manly scrambled after AFB jumped across the ditch and were willing to pay overs to fill a hole.

Josh got paid, we’ve moved on with a SOO recruit in JO and now everyone lives happily ever after.

The end.

 

[cochise]

I was told the 24-hour deadline was only given to Aloiai after Tigers got word he was speaking to Manly, and it only applied to the offer that was already in front of him.

It's not like the Tigers gave him a fresh offer with a 1-day take/leave deadline. That just makes no sense - why would Tigers drop such an abrupt and aggressive offer on Aloiai after carefully developing him over so many seasons and different administrations? Esp. with a year remaining on his contract.

I can totally understand that Aloiai may have been aware that other forwards were getting paid more than him, and it may have been upsetting to him. We all know there were/are players in the roster who aren't giving an appropriate return on investment.

HOWEVER you can't just do to your employer demanding to match or beat the salary of someone you "think" you are better than, esp. when that person was signed by a previous coach. I was told that the club originally gave Aloiai an offer that they felt matched his output, status in the club and future potential - and he was stalling in making a decision. Time has shown that Aloiai was stalling because he was negotiating with another club.

Tigers are certainly being much more selective and strict with roster management. On paper this approach is working out on the positive side of the ledger.

This

 

[BAGNF05]

With good blokes like the turbos and Sirro at Manly I was really starting to struggle, they even have a zany coach whose press conferences always amuse. Thanks JA for well/truly restoring our hatred for the silver tails.

 

[TheDaBoss]

24 sleeps peeps
Let’s keep it civil 😂

Less

The hitout on saturday should be enough to keep us going...until trials 😁

 

[BalmainJnr]

I believe I know which hit up Packer will take next season that won’t be a decoy. Interesting that the article shared last night on Madge eluded to some players that just weren’t up to it when Madge put the torch to them. It was good of JA to weed himself out looking back on it.

 

[innsaneink]

An amusing last few pages.

Who cares... He's gone

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Sorry guys too lazy to post article.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/sea-eagles/nrl-2021-manlywarringah-sea-eagles-josh-aloiai-wests-tigers-exit-mow-the-lawns-meme/news-story/df6f38b4b0b7dc38b66e49f4015bfdf4

Two things stand out for me:

Was never about the money and wants to play finals. If the numbers are correct he's set to earn a massive upgrade money wise so to say it's not about the money is a bit rich.

Secondly Manly's roster apart from the Turbo brothers is pretty ordinary. I don't think even with an injury free Tom they'll make the 8. He goes down again they most certainly won't.

I know the story first hand and as a massive Tigers fan it’s an interesting one.

He is getting a big pay rise at Manly but was willing to take less at the Tigers to stay as he was comfortable here.

Hartigan is a ruthless and often disrespectful businessman and came through with a shocking first offer with a 24 hr deadline which Josh was angered by and therefore asked for an immediate release ... BUT... Hartigan’s work in recruitment this off-season makes me feel that oftentimes the best businessmen are ruthless and I think he is ultimately turning the club in the right direction.

Disappointing how it turned out though because Madge wanted to keep Josh and saw him as next in line to the captaincy.

This is very inaccurate. Not even close to the truth

This website may as well be named adamhartiganfanclub.com. You'll struggle to find friends here with a story like that.

It’s hard to argue with . He’s replaced Eisenhuth , Clarke , and Josh , with Tamou , Stefano and Joe O. 2 plodders and a guy who played 1 good season , to our now captain , an origin player off a down year , and the highest rated prop coming through the grades . And that’s just 1 position .


Matterson =>Blore

As of today . Blore is considered an origin player of the future and Matterson is like a douchebag version of Aubusson. He will never play origin . Mainly cause he’s a knob . I reckon you’ll be regretting this statement by the end of 2022

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Trial against manly should be fun I reckon

 

[happy_tiger]

Another lame, poorly written, FOXbait piece of rubbish article. George Clarke is obviously worried about hitting his quota this week.

Here’s the real story.

Josh and his questionable manager Tyran Smith asked for a big money upgrade based on an ok season from JA - we said no.

Des and Manly scrambled after AFB jumped across the ditch and were willing to pay overs to fill a hole.

Josh got paid, we’ve moved on with a SOO recruit in JO and now everyone lives happily ever after.

The end.

OK ...I'd heard that Tyran Smith was one of the better player managers running around ...maybe not hey ??

 

[mike]

By the time the season kicks off I think it will be a case of JOSH WHO????

Manly scum

 

[Deleted member 3518]

I was told the 24-hour deadline was only given to Aloiai after Tigers got word he was speaking to Manly, and it only applied to the offer that was already in front of him.

It's not like the Tigers gave him a fresh offer with a 1-day take/leave deadline. That just makes no sense - why would Tigers drop such an abrupt and aggressive offer on Aloiai after carefully developing him over so many seasons and different administrations? Esp. with a year remaining on his contract.

I can totally understand that Aloiai may have been aware that other forwards were getting paid more than him, and it may have been upsetting to him. We all know there were/are players in the roster who aren't giving an appropriate return on investment.

HOWEVER you can't just do to your employer demanding to match or beat the salary of someone you "think" you are better than, esp. when that person was signed by a previous coach. I was told that the club originally gave Aloiai an offer that they felt matched his output, status in the club and future potential - and he was stalling in making a decision. Time has shown that Aloiai was stalling because he was negotiating with another club.

Tigers are certainly being much more selective and strict with roster management. On paper this approach is working out on the positive side of the ledger.

This

I thought it was obvious the moment it came out we slapped a deadline on him. The same thing happened (granted different management) when Moses had his wobbly , which really meant we knew the dogs wanted teddy and would have taken Moses as well. Then Parra came into the picture.
But Josh and Tyran , are the only honourable people in rugby league ...

 

[cochise]

I was told the 24-hour deadline was only given to Aloiai after Tigers got word he was speaking to Manly, and it only applied to the offer that was already in front of him.

It's not like the Tigers gave him a fresh offer with a 1-day take/leave deadline. That just makes no sense - why would Tigers drop such an abrupt and aggressive offer on Aloiai after carefully developing him over so many seasons and different administrations? Esp. with a year remaining on his contract.

I can totally understand that Aloiai may have been aware that other forwards were getting paid more than him, and it may have been upsetting to him. We all know there were/are players in the roster who aren't giving an appropriate return on investment.

HOWEVER you can't just do to your employer demanding to match or beat the salary of someone you "think" you are better than, esp. when that person was signed by a previous coach. I was told that the club originally gave Aloiai an offer that they felt matched his output, status in the club and future potential - and he was stalling in making a decision. Time has shown that Aloiai was stalling because he was negotiating with another club.

Tigers are certainly being much more selective and strict with roster management. On paper this approach is working out on the positive side of the ledger.

This

I thought it was obvious the moment it came out we slapped a deadline on him. The same thing happened (granted different management) when Moses had his wobbly , which really meant we knew the dogs wanted teddy and would have taken Moses as well. Then Parra came into the picture.
But Josh and Tyran , are the only honourable people in rugby league ...

To be honest his behaviour was as bad if not worse than any of the players that have broken contracts with us.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Another lame, poorly written, FOXbait piece of rubbish article. George Clarke is obviously worried about hitting his quota this week.

Here’s the real story.

Josh and his questionable manager Tyran Smith asked for a big money upgrade based on an ok season from JA - we said no.

Des and Manly scrambled after AFB jumped across the ditch and were willing to pay overs to fill a hole.

Josh got paid, we’ve moved on with a SOO recruit in JO and now everyone lives happily ever after.

The end.

OK ...I'd heard that Tyran Smith was one of the better player managers running around ...maybe not hey ??

I just think you swim with sharks , you have to become one to survive . He’s probably good for his boys . Doesn’t mean he’s always on the up and up .
In baseball there’s a manger who’s shady as ,from a club / fan perspective . Yet all his players reckon he’s like a second father . Scott Boras is his name .

 

[Deleted member 3518]

I was told the 24-hour deadline was only given to Aloiai after Tigers got word he was speaking to Manly, and it only applied to the offer that was already in front of him.

It's not like the Tigers gave him a fresh offer with a 1-day take/leave deadline. That just makes no sense - why would Tigers drop such an abrupt and aggressive offer on Aloiai after carefully developing him over so many seasons and different administrations? Esp. with a year remaining on his contract.

I can totally understand that Aloiai may have been aware that other forwards were getting paid more than him, and it may have been upsetting to him. We all know there were/are players in the roster who aren't giving an appropriate return on investment.

HOWEVER you can't just do to your employer demanding to match or beat the salary of someone you "think" you are better than, esp. when that person was signed by a previous coach. I was told that the club originally gave Aloiai an offer that they felt matched his output, status in the club and future potential - and he was stalling in making a decision. Time has shown that Aloiai was stalling because he was negotiating with another club.

Tigers are certainly being much more selective and strict with roster management. On paper this approach is working out on the positive side of the ledger.

This

I thought it was obvious the moment it came out we slapped a deadline on him. The same thing happened (granted different management) when Moses had his wobbly , which really meant we knew the dogs wanted teddy and would have taken Moses as well. Then Parra came into the picture.
But Josh and Tyran , are the only honourable people in rugby league ...

To be honest his behaviour was as bad if not worse than any of the players that have broken contracts with us.

Everyone is the hero of thier own story . And denial is not just a river in Egypt .