Aloiai

[BAGNF05]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.


Josh needs better mates. If a mate of mine posted details of my negotiations with my employer on a public forum, I'd never talk to them again. The only offensive part of the Tigers negotiations with Aloiai that @tiga4eva posted is the 24hr deadline which sounds ridiculous but none of us, not even Joshs mate know the background to this, Aloiai might not even. Could just as well be that his manager was stringing us out and the club (potentially quite rightly) said enough is enough.

As well as Josh’s mate he also sounds like a big Tigers fan. He speaks for a lot of us that are completely fed up with the way we do business as a club. I for one am happy for these stories to be shared as it might somehow lead to some positive changes at the joint.

Queue the club apologists hammering me..... now.

 

[ATown]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted.

Mate - I'd just delete those posts. I like Aloiai and I don't think this publicity is good for him. It's personal information on a public forum. Top player and I hope he stays. If he goes good luck to him.

He’s well aware the posts on here. Club’s meeting with him and management this week and I hope they can all resolve it.

I hope they resolve it. Tell him he is a legend and he should stay. Awesome player and he comes across as a good guy.

I’ll let him know. The last thing I want to do is make anyone on the forum uncomfortable. I’ll delete my original post.

Mate don’t stress, there are plenty of drama queens around here that love the thought of another soap opera.

If Josh is fine with you putting it out there then that is literally all that matters.

I don’t want to speak for him but I would imagine he would appreciate that Tigers supporters get the real story of what’s going on rather than make assumptions that he’s the one causing the issue.

I’ll put my hand up and say I was dirty on him when it first came out before I knew the story. But that’s because I was genuinely hurt that he seemingly wanted to leave.

I’m on record for stating I thought Josh was captaincy material in 2021. Compare Josh and Mbye’s passion for the club. Apples and oranges. I really hope this can be worked out.

 

[jadtiger]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted.

Mate - I'd just delete those posts. I like Aloiai and I don't think this publicity is good for him. It's personal information on a public forum. Top player and I hope he stays. If he goes good luck to him.

He’s well aware the posts on here. Club’s meeting with him and management this week and I hope they can all resolve it.

I hope they resolve it. Tell him he is a legend and he should stay. Awesome player and he comes across as a good guy.

I’ll let him know. The last thing I want to do is make anyone on the forum uncomfortable. I’ll delete my original post.

Mate don’t stress, there are plenty of drama queens around here that love the thought of another soap opera.

If Josh is fine with you putting it out there then that is literally all that matters.

I don’t want to speak for him but I would imagine he would appreciate that Tigers supporters get the real story of what’s going on rather than make assumptions that he’s the one causing the issue.

I’ll put my hand up and say I was dirty on him when it first came out before I knew the story. But that’s because I was genuinely hurt that he seemingly wanted to leave.

I’m on record for stating I thought Josh was captaincy material in 2021. Compare Josh and Mbye’s passion for the club. Apples and oranges. I really hope this can be worked out.

I think you would be speaking for the majority of our supporters

 

[tiga4eva]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.

Has the deadline placed on Josh by Wests Tigers to accept the extension passed..?

If so have they withdrawn the offer ..

Will he then be at another Club from 2022..?


Has a meeting this week where all will be discussed. Have no idea what the outcome will be. Im hoping for a positive result.

I would assume it’s with Josh’s management and not Josh himself. Would that be correct?

All will be present

 

[tiga4eva]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted.

Mate - I'd just delete those posts. I like Aloiai and I don't think this publicity is good for him. It's personal information on a public forum. Top player and I hope he stays. If he goes good luck to him.

He’s well aware the posts on here. Club’s meeting with him and management this week and I hope they can all resolve it.


What happened to the 24hr deadline?

Ask the Club. At this stage he’s off contract for 2022 and has a sit down this week to discuss his future

 

[TYGA]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.

I believe you otherwise you have some serious issues you need to sort out. Can it be recovered or is the deal dead and he’s gone? If walked out on my employer twice and came back after collet heads prevailed. Depends whether they want you and at what price. It’s that simple.

 

[tiga4eva]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.


Josh needs better mates. If a mate of mine posted details of my negotiations with my employer on a public forum, I'd never talk to them again. The only offensive part of the Tigers negotiations with Aloiai that @tiga4eva posted is the 24hr deadline which sounds ridiculous but none of us, not even Joshs mate know the background to this, Aloiai might not even. Could just as well be that his manager was stringing us out and the club (potentially quite rightly) said enough is enough.

Posted previously, I’ll be at Leichhardt, Ctown or Bankwest next year, we’ll meet up and I’ll show you the correspondence where it’s states it.

 

[tiga4eva]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.

I believe you otherwise you have some serious issues you need to sort out. Can it be recovered or is the deal dead and he’s gone? If walked out on my employer twice and came back after collet heads prevailed. Depends whether they want you and at what price. It’s that simple.

I truly hope it’ll all get worked out

 

[Tiger5150]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.


Josh needs better mates. If a mate of mine posted details of my negotiations with my employer on a public forum, I'd never talk to them again. The only offensive part of the Tigers negotiations with Aloiai that @tiga4eva posted is the 24hr deadline which sounds ridiculous but none of us, not even Joshs mate know the background to this, Aloiai might not even. Could just as well be that his manager was stringing us out and the club (potentially quite rightly) said enough is enough.


Posted previously, I’ll be at Leichhardt, Ctown or Bankwest next year, we’ll meet up and I’ll show you the correspondence where it’s states it.

Does it state why they placed a 24hr deadline? Or what lead up to that point, how long his manager dragged things out? Why it has taken months before the Tigers put a deadline on it?

Posted previously, Josh needs better mates.

 

[tiga4eva]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.


Josh needs better mates. If a mate of mine posted details of my negotiations with my employer on a public forum, I'd never talk to them again. The only offensive part of the Tigers negotiations with Aloiai that @tiga4eva posted is the 24hr deadline which sounds ridiculous but none of us, not even Joshs mate know the background to this, Aloiai might not even. Could just as well be that his manager was stringing us out and the club (potentially quite rightly) said enough is enough.


Posted previously, I’ll be at Leichhardt, Ctown or Bankwest next year, we’ll meet up and I’ll show you the correspondence where it’s states it.


Does it state why they placed a 24hr deadline? Or what lead up to that point, how long his manager dragged things out? Why it has taken months before the Tigers put a deadline on it?

Posted previously, Josh needs better mates.

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.


Josh needs better mates. If a mate of mine posted details of my negotiations with my employer on a public forum, I'd never talk to them again. The only offensive part of the Tigers negotiations with Aloiai that @tiga4eva posted is the 24hr deadline which sounds ridiculous but none of us, not even Joshs mate know the background to this, Aloiai might not even. Could just as well be that his manager was stringing us out and the club (potentially quite rightly) said enough is enough.


Posted previously, I’ll be at Leichhardt, Ctown or Bankwest next year, we’ll meet up and I’ll show you the correspondence where it’s states it.


Does it state why they placed a 24hr deadline? Or what lead up to that point, how long his manager dragged things out? Why it has taken months before the Tigers put a deadline on it?

Posted previously, Josh needs better mates.

We need better management

 

[happy_tiger]

Is he gone or not ...getting too old to tip toe through the tulips

 

[hugggarz]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted.

Mate - I'd just delete those posts. I like Aloiai and I don't think this publicity is good for him. It's personal information on a public forum. Top player and I hope he stays. If he goes good luck to him.

He’s well aware the posts on here. Club’s meeting with him and management this week and I hope they can all resolve it.

If the original offer was rejected by Josh and the deadline in question I assume has passed, what would they be trying to resolve?

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.


Josh needs better mates. If a mate of mine posted details of my negotiations with my employer on a public forum, I'd never talk to them again. The only offensive part of the Tigers negotiations with Aloiai that @tiga4eva posted is the 24hr deadline which sounds ridiculous but none of us, not even Joshs mate know the background to this, Aloiai might not even. Could just as well be that his manager was stringing us out and the club (potentially quite rightly) said enough is enough.

As well as Josh’s mate he also sounds like a big Tigers fan. He speaks for a lot of us that are completely fed up with the way we do business as a club. I for one am happy for these stories to be shared as it might somehow lead to some positive changes at the joint.

Queue the club apologists hammering me..... now.

Cool , but how does that help Josh get a contract , with his current employer , who I’m assuming is dirty , because he actually gives a toss?
I’ve stated already I think the 24 hr thing is cold . I’ve also stated , I’m dirty at the last 10 weeks as a fan and member . And I think if josh has another year like last he should get the 500k. But if he gets injured , which everything being said about playing hurt , actually proves the point , it’s hard to pay someone 500k if you’re not confident they’re going to do their job. Would you want to pay someone who is perpetually on light duties all the time ?
And here in lies the problem . How much is a guy who loves the club , but gets his fair share of injuries , and is above average , worth ?
Also can you lay off mate seriously . We have only lost McIntyre , and not signed JAC for next year. It’s hardly tantrum worthy!

 

[mike]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.

Has the deadline placed on Josh by Wests Tigers to accept the extension passed..?

If so have they withdrawn the offer ..

Will he then be at another Club from 2022..?


Has a meeting this week where all will be discussed. Have no idea what the outcome will be. Im hoping for a positive result.

I would assume it’s with Josh’s management and not Josh himself. Would that be correct?


All will be present

Good, at least Josh will be getting his information first hand. Hopefully they can sort things out to all parties satisfaction.

 

[tiga4eva]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.

Has the deadline placed on Josh by Wests Tigers to accept the extension passed..?

If so have they withdrawn the offer ..

Will he then be at another Club from 2022..?


Has a meeting this week where all will be discussed. Have no idea what the outcome will be. Im hoping for a positive result.

I would assume it’s with Josh’s management and not Josh himself. Would that be correct?


All will be present

Good, at least Josh will be getting his information first hand. Hopefully they can sort things out to all parties satisfaction.

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.

Has the deadline placed on Josh by Wests Tigers to accept the extension passed..?

If so have they withdrawn the offer ..

Will he then be at another Club from 2022..?


Has a meeting this week where all will be discussed. Have no idea what the outcome will be. Im hoping for a positive result.

I would assume it’s with Josh’s management and not Josh himself. Would that be correct?


All will be present

Good, at least Josh will be getting his information first hand. Hopefully they can sort things out to all parties satisfaction.

Agree 100%

 

[BAGNF05]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.


Josh needs better mates. If a mate of mine posted details of my negotiations with my employer on a public forum, I'd never talk to them again. The only offensive part of the Tigers negotiations with Aloiai that @tiga4eva posted is the 24hr deadline which sounds ridiculous but none of us, not even Joshs mate know the background to this, Aloiai might not even. Could just as well be that his manager was stringing us out and the club (potentially quite rightly) said enough is enough.

As well as Josh’s mate he also sounds like a big Tigers fan. He speaks for a lot of us that are completely fed up with the way we do business as a club. I for one am happy for these stories to be shared as it might somehow lead to some positive changes at the joint.

Queue the club apologists hammering me..... now.

Cool , but how does that help Josh get a contract , with his current employer , who I’m assuming is dirty , because he actually gives a toss?
I’ve stated already I think the 24 hr thing is cold . I’ve also stated , I’m dirty at the last 10 weeks as a fan and member . And I think if josh has another year like last he should get the 500k. But if he gets injured , which everything being said about playing hurt , actually proves the point , it’s hard to pay someone 500k if you’re not confident they’re going to do their job. Would you want to pay someone who is perpetually on light duties all the time ?
And here in lies the problem . How much is a guy who loves the club , but gets his fair share of injuries , and is above average , worth ?
Also can you lay off mate seriously . We have only lost McIntyre , and not signed JAC for next year. It’s hardly tantrum worthy!

Mate. Come on. Short memories.

There are no less than 13 of the current origin players that we have either released or gone after but failed to recruit. So no I won’t lay off.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.


Josh needs better mates. If a mate of mine posted details of my negotiations with my employer on a public forum, I'd never talk to them again. The only offensive part of the Tigers negotiations with Aloiai that @tiga4eva posted is the 24hr deadline which sounds ridiculous but none of us, not even Joshs mate know the background to this, Aloiai might not even. Could just as well be that his manager was stringing us out and the club (potentially quite rightly) said enough is enough.

As well as Josh’s mate he also sounds like a big Tigers fan. He speaks for a lot of us that are completely fed up with the way we do business as a club. I for one am happy for these stories to be shared as it might somehow lead to some positive changes at the joint.

Queue the club apologists hammering me..... now.

Cool , but how does that help Josh get a contract , with his current employer , who I’m assuming is dirty , because he actually gives a toss?
I’ve stated already I think the 24 hr thing is cold . I’ve also stated , I’m dirty at the last 10 weeks as a fan and member . And I think if josh has another year like last he should get the 500k. But if he gets injured , which everything being said about playing hurt , actually proves the point , it’s hard to pay someone 500k if you’re not confident they’re going to do their job. Would you want to pay someone who is perpetually on light duties all the time ?
And here in lies the problem . How much is a guy who loves the club , but gets his fair share of injuries , and is above average , worth ?
Also can you lay off mate seriously . We have only lost McIntyre , and not signed JAC for next year. It’s hardly tantrum worthy!

Mate. Come on. Short memories.

There are no less than 13 of the current origin players that we have either released or gone after but failed to recruit. So no I won’t lay off.

Man , I’m not worried about 3-4 years ago . I’m worried yesterday , tomorrow and today. We have recruited a whole bunch of good juniors , and , are trying our best to nab a big fish . But he issue is , we are fighting the channel 9 crew in rep positions , who all are associated with easts , just purely a coincidence. Also we are fighting that period where we made all those poor decisions , those guys who are friends with ,play with , play against who were all in and around that.
Even if the message is “we are not like the old days “ , it would still be a perception out there that’s “man it’s still the tigers ... I dunno”.
That unconscious and conscious bias , is what we have to transcend .
The only way to do that ... is to be better with the 18-21 range who weren’t around when that other garbage happened . I believe that’s happening ... because there’s a lot of elite kids here now .

 

[BAGNF05]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.


Josh needs better mates. If a mate of mine posted details of my negotiations with my employer on a public forum, I'd never talk to them again. The only offensive part of the Tigers negotiations with Aloiai that @tiga4eva posted is the 24hr deadline which sounds ridiculous but none of us, not even Joshs mate know the background to this, Aloiai might not even. Could just as well be that his manager was stringing us out and the club (potentially quite rightly) said enough is enough.

As well as Josh’s mate he also sounds like a big Tigers fan. He speaks for a lot of us that are completely fed up with the way we do business as a club. I for one am happy for these stories to be shared as it might somehow lead to some positive changes at the joint.

Queue the club apologists hammering me..... now.

Cool , but how does that help Josh get a contract , with his current employer , who I’m assuming is dirty , because he actually gives a toss?
I’ve stated already I think the 24 hr thing is cold . I’ve also stated , I’m dirty at the last 10 weeks as a fan and member . And I think if josh has another year like last he should get the 500k. But if he gets injured , which everything being said about playing hurt , actually proves the point , it’s hard to pay someone 500k if you’re not confident they’re going to do their job. Would you want to pay someone who is perpetually on light duties all the time ?
And here in lies the problem . How much is a guy who loves the club , but gets his fair share of injuries , and is above average , worth ?
Also can you lay off mate seriously . We have only lost McIntyre , and not signed JAC for next year. It’s hardly tantrum worthy!

Mate. Come on. Short memories.

There are no less than 13 of the current origin players that we have either released or gone after but failed to recruit. So no I won’t lay off.

Man , I’m not worried about 3-4 years ago . I’m worried yesterday , tomorrow and today. We have recruited a whole bunch of good juniors , and , are trying our best to nab a big fish . But he issue is , we are fighting the channel 9 crew in rep positions , who all are associated with easts , just purely a coincidence. Also we are fighting that period where we made all those poor decisions , those guys who are friends with ,play with , play against who were all in and around that.
Even if the message is “we are not like the old days “ , it would still be a perception out there that’s “man it’s still the tigers ... I dunno”.
That unconscious and conscious bias , is what we have to transcend .
The only way to do that ... is to be better with the 18-21 range who weren’t around when that other garbage happened . I believe that’s happening ... because there’s a lot of elite kids here now .

I agree whole heartedly, so they need go out and get a young Burton or a Crichton to prove to me and other fans that they deserve their pay cheques.

Jimmy the Jet, please.

 

[TYGA]

Is he gone or not ...getting too old to tip toe through the tulips

Tip toe through tulips 👍

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.


Josh needs better mates. If a mate of mine posted details of my negotiations with my employer on a public forum, I'd never talk to them again. The only offensive part of the Tigers negotiations with Aloiai that @tiga4eva posted is the 24hr deadline which sounds ridiculous but none of us, not even Joshs mate know the background to this, Aloiai might not even. Could just as well be that his manager was stringing us out and the club (potentially quite rightly) said enough is enough.

As well as Josh’s mate he also sounds like a big Tigers fan. He speaks for a lot of us that are completely fed up with the way we do business as a club. I for one am happy for these stories to be shared as it might somehow lead to some positive changes at the joint.

Queue the club apologists hammering me..... now.

Cool , but how does that help Josh get a contract , with his current employer , who I’m assuming is dirty , because he actually gives a toss?
I’ve stated already I think the 24 hr thing is cold . I’ve also stated , I’m dirty at the last 10 weeks as a fan and member . And I think if josh has another year like last he should get the 500k. But if he gets injured , which everything being said about playing hurt , actually proves the point , it’s hard to pay someone 500k if you’re not confident they’re going to do their job. Would you want to pay someone who is perpetually on light duties all the time ?
And here in lies the problem . How much is a guy who loves the club , but gets his fair share of injuries , and is above average , worth ?
Also can you lay off mate seriously . We have only lost McIntyre , and not signed JAC for next year. It’s hardly tantrum worthy!

Mate. Come on. Short memories.

There are no less than 13 of the current origin players that we have either released or gone after but failed to recruit. So no I won’t lay off.

Man , I’m not worried about 3-4 years ago . I’m worried yesterday , tomorrow and today. We have recruited a whole bunch of good juniors , and , are trying our best to nab a big fish . But he issue is , we are fighting the channel 9 crew in rep positions , who all are associated with easts , just purely a coincidence. Also we are fighting that period where we made all those poor decisions , those guys who are friends with ,play with , play against who were all in and around that.
Even if the message is “we are not like the old days “ , it would still be a perception out there that’s “man it’s still the tigers ... I dunno”.
That unconscious and conscious bias , is what we have to transcend .
The only way to do that ... is to be better with the 18-21 range who weren’t around when that other garbage happened . I believe that’s happening ... because there’s a lot of elite kids here now .

I agree whole heartedly, so they need go out and get a young Burton or a Crichton to prove to me and other fans that they deserve their pay cheques.

Jimmy the Jet, please.

Why does that need to happen? If we have the kids there , and they’re not ready ,wouldn’t it be prudent , to fill the current squad with people who can do the job , but if a kid pushes through , it’s not the end of the world who drop ? Basically what benji was supposed to be , except he couldn’t help himself , and it turned into a farce .