Aloiai

[Deleted member 3518]

I’m pro Angus Chrichton by the way . He’s the guy we should have throwing our money at the whole time . Especially with the amount of coin coming off the books next year .

 

[BAGNF05]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.


Josh needs better mates. If a mate of mine posted details of my negotiations with my employer on a public forum, I'd never talk to them again. The only offensive part of the Tigers negotiations with Aloiai that @tiga4eva posted is the 24hr deadline which sounds ridiculous but none of us, not even Joshs mate know the background to this, Aloiai might not even. Could just as well be that his manager was stringing us out and the club (potentially quite rightly) said enough is enough.

As well as Josh’s mate he also sounds like a big Tigers fan. He speaks for a lot of us that are completely fed up with the way we do business as a club. I for one am happy for these stories to be shared as it might somehow lead to some positive changes at the joint.

Queue the club apologists hammering me..... now.

Cool , but how does that help Josh get a contract , with his current employer , who I’m assuming is dirty , because he actually gives a toss?
I’ve stated already I think the 24 hr thing is cold . I’ve also stated , I’m dirty at the last 10 weeks as a fan and member . And I think if josh has another year like last he should get the 500k. But if he gets injured , which everything being said about playing hurt , actually proves the point , it’s hard to pay someone 500k if you’re not confident they’re going to do their job. Would you want to pay someone who is perpetually on light duties all the time ?
And here in lies the problem . How much is a guy who loves the club , but gets his fair share of injuries , and is above average , worth ?
Also can you lay off mate seriously . We have only lost McIntyre , and not signed JAC for next year. It’s hardly tantrum worthy!

Mate. Come on. Short memories.

There are no less than 13 of the current origin players that we have either released or gone after but failed to recruit. So no I won’t lay off.

Man , I’m not worried about 3-4 years ago . I’m worried yesterday , tomorrow and today. We have recruited a whole bunch of good juniors , and , are trying our best to nab a big fish . But he issue is , we are fighting the channel 9 crew in rep positions , who all are associated with easts , just purely a coincidence. Also we are fighting that period where we made all those poor decisions , those guys who are friends with ,play with , play against who were all in and around that.
Even if the message is “we are not like the old days “ , it would still be a perception out there that’s “man it’s still the tigers ... I dunno”.
That unconscious and conscious bias , is what we have to transcend .
The only way to do that ... is to be better with the 18-21 range who weren’t around when that other garbage happened . I believe that’s happening ... because there’s a lot of elite kids here now .

I agree whole heartedly, so they need go out and get a young Burton or a Crichton to prove to me and other fans that they deserve their pay cheques.

Jimmy the Jet, please.

Why does that need to happen? If we have the kids there , and they’re not ready ,wouldn’t it be prudent , to fill the current squad with people who can do the job , but if a kid pushes through , it’s not the end of the world who drop ? Basically what benji was supposed to be , except he couldn’t help himself , and it turned into a farce .

Because if we wait around until one of these elite 15 year olds actually becomes good they will nick off in a heart beat because they’re playing with jimmy the jet and some other old bloke who doesn’t want to be there.

 

[TYGA]

The big issue with not signing Aloai is simple. He was our best front rower and came good now entering his prime. Letting him go sends the same message to all the kids we are recruiting.

The reality is our recruitment and retention are bad as you never let players reach their contact year if possible. If we didn’t have huge money tied up in old players that won’t play first grade we could top up and extend players ahead of time.

Remember only one club can give Aloai more money next year and it’s the tigers. They won’t release so even if we are lower in terms of the actual contract we offer more over the whole period assuming we can top up next year.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.


Josh needs better mates. If a mate of mine posted details of my negotiations with my employer on a public forum, I'd never talk to them again. The only offensive part of the Tigers negotiations with Aloiai that @tiga4eva posted is the 24hr deadline which sounds ridiculous but none of us, not even Joshs mate know the background to this, Aloiai might not even. Could just as well be that his manager was stringing us out and the club (potentially quite rightly) said enough is enough.

As well as Josh’s mate he also sounds like a big Tigers fan. He speaks for a lot of us that are completely fed up with the way we do business as a club. I for one am happy for these stories to be shared as it might somehow lead to some positive changes at the joint.

Queue the club apologists hammering me..... now.

Cool , but how does that help Josh get a contract , with his current employer , who I’m assuming is dirty , because he actually gives a toss?
I’ve stated already I think the 24 hr thing is cold . I’ve also stated , I’m dirty at the last 10 weeks as a fan and member . And I think if josh has another year like last he should get the 500k. But if he gets injured , which everything being said about playing hurt , actually proves the point , it’s hard to pay someone 500k if you’re not confident they’re going to do their job. Would you want to pay someone who is perpetually on light duties all the time ?
And here in lies the problem . How much is a guy who loves the club , but gets his fair share of injuries , and is above average , worth ?
Also can you lay off mate seriously . We have only lost McIntyre , and not signed JAC for next year. It’s hardly tantrum worthy!

Mate. Come on. Short memories.

There are no less than 13 of the current origin players that we have either released or gone after but failed to recruit. So no I won’t lay off.

Man , I’m not worried about 3-4 years ago . I’m worried yesterday , tomorrow and today. We have recruited a whole bunch of good juniors , and , are trying our best to nab a big fish . But he issue is , we are fighting the channel 9 crew in rep positions , who all are associated with easts , just purely a coincidence. Also we are fighting that period where we made all those poor decisions , those guys who are friends with ,play with , play against who were all in and around that.
Even if the message is “we are not like the old days “ , it would still be a perception out there that’s “man it’s still the tigers ... I dunno”.
That unconscious and conscious bias , is what we have to transcend .
The only way to do that ... is to be better with the 18-21 range who weren’t around when that other garbage happened . I believe that’s happening ... because there’s a lot of elite kids here now .

I agree whole heartedly, so they need go out and get a young Burton or a Crichton to prove to me and other fans that they deserve their pay cheques.

Jimmy the Jet, please.

Why does that need to happen? If we have the kids there , and they’re not ready ,wouldn’t it be prudent , to fill the current squad with people who can do the job , but if a kid pushes through , it’s not the end of the world who drop ? Basically what benji was supposed to be , except he couldn’t help himself , and it turned into a farce .

Because if we wait around until one of these elite 15 year olds actually becomes good they will nick off in a heart beat because they’re playing with jimmy the jet and some other old bloke who doesn’t want to be there.

Most are between 17-20 from my understanding ? Eg , Simpkins , Hoffman , Kei

 

[jirskyr]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.

Has the deadline placed on Josh by Wests Tigers to accept the extension passed..?

If so have they withdrawn the offer ..

Will he then be at another Club from 2022..?


Has a meeting this week where all will be discussed. Have no idea what the outcome will be. Im hoping for a positive result.

My prediction is they figure it out and he re-signs, and that the posturing was simply Tigers calling his Manager's bluff.

In fact I would guess the story about Josh going to Manly is 100% his manager's doing.

Pure speculation but that's my gut.

 

[BAGNF05]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.


Josh needs better mates. If a mate of mine posted details of my negotiations with my employer on a public forum, I'd never talk to them again. The only offensive part of the Tigers negotiations with Aloiai that @tiga4eva posted is the 24hr deadline which sounds ridiculous but none of us, not even Joshs mate know the background to this, Aloiai might not even. Could just as well be that his manager was stringing us out and the club (potentially quite rightly) said enough is enough.

As well as Josh’s mate he also sounds like a big Tigers fan. He speaks for a lot of us that are completely fed up with the way we do business as a club. I for one am happy for these stories to be shared as it might somehow lead to some positive changes at the joint.

Queue the club apologists hammering me..... now.

Cool , but how does that help Josh get a contract , with his current employer , who I’m assuming is dirty , because he actually gives a toss?
I’ve stated already I think the 24 hr thing is cold . I’ve also stated , I’m dirty at the last 10 weeks as a fan and member . And I think if josh has another year like last he should get the 500k. But if he gets injured , which everything being said about playing hurt , actually proves the point , it’s hard to pay someone 500k if you’re not confident they’re going to do their job. Would you want to pay someone who is perpetually on light duties all the time ?
And here in lies the problem . How much is a guy who loves the club , but gets his fair share of injuries , and is above average , worth ?
Also can you lay off mate seriously . We have only lost McIntyre , and not signed JAC for next year. It’s hardly tantrum worthy!

Mate. Come on. Short memories.

There are no less than 13 of the current origin players that we have either released or gone after but failed to recruit. So no I won’t lay off.

Man , I’m not worried about 3-4 years ago . I’m worried yesterday , tomorrow and today. We have recruited a whole bunch of good juniors , and , are trying our best to nab a big fish . But he issue is , we are fighting the channel 9 crew in rep positions , who all are associated with easts , just purely a coincidence. Also we are fighting that period where we made all those poor decisions , those guys who are friends with ,play with , play against who were all in and around that.
Even if the message is “we are not like the old days “ , it would still be a perception out there that’s “man it’s still the tigers ... I dunno”.
That unconscious and conscious bias , is what we have to transcend .
The only way to do that ... is to be better with the 18-21 range who weren’t around when that other garbage happened . I believe that’s happening ... because there’s a lot of elite kids here now .

I agree whole heartedly, so they need go out and get a young Burton or a Crichton to prove to me and other fans that they deserve their pay cheques.

Jimmy the Jet, please.

Why does that need to happen? If we have the kids there , and they’re not ready ,wouldn’t it be prudent , to fill the current squad with people who can do the job , but if a kid pushes through , it’s not the end of the world who drop ? Basically what benji was supposed to be , except he couldn’t help himself , and it turned into a farce .

Because if we wait around until one of these elite 15 year olds actually becomes good they will nick off in a heart beat because they’re playing with jimmy the jet and some other old bloke who doesn’t want to be there.

Most are between 17-20 from my understanding ? Eg , Simpkins , Hoffman , Kei

I just hope youre all right about these wonder kids and still fear for blooding them against teams full of elite footy players, it’s actually negligent if you ask me

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.


Josh needs better mates. If a mate of mine posted details of my negotiations with my employer on a public forum, I'd never talk to them again. The only offensive part of the Tigers negotiations with Aloiai that @tiga4eva posted is the 24hr deadline which sounds ridiculous but none of us, not even Joshs mate know the background to this, Aloiai might not even. Could just as well be that his manager was stringing us out and the club (potentially quite rightly) said enough is enough.

As well as Josh’s mate he also sounds like a big Tigers fan. He speaks for a lot of us that are completely fed up with the way we do business as a club. I for one am happy for these stories to be shared as it might somehow lead to some positive changes at the joint.

Queue the club apologists hammering me..... now.

Cool , but how does that help Josh get a contract , with his current employer , who I’m assuming is dirty , because he actually gives a toss?
I’ve stated already I think the 24 hr thing is cold . I’ve also stated , I’m dirty at the last 10 weeks as a fan and member . And I think if josh has another year like last he should get the 500k. But if he gets injured , which everything being said about playing hurt , actually proves the point , it’s hard to pay someone 500k if you’re not confident they’re going to do their job. Would you want to pay someone who is perpetually on light duties all the time ?
And here in lies the problem . How much is a guy who loves the club , but gets his fair share of injuries , and is above average , worth ?
Also can you lay off mate seriously . We have only lost McIntyre , and not signed JAC for next year. It’s hardly tantrum worthy!

Mate. Come on. Short memories.

There are no less than 13 of the current origin players that we have either released or gone after but failed to recruit. So no I won’t lay off.

Man , I’m not worried about 3-4 years ago . I’m worried yesterday , tomorrow and today. We have recruited a whole bunch of good juniors , and , are trying our best to nab a big fish . But he issue is , we are fighting the channel 9 crew in rep positions , who all are associated with easts , just purely a coincidence. Also we are fighting that period where we made all those poor decisions , those guys who are friends with ,play with , play against who were all in and around that.
Even if the message is “we are not like the old days “ , it would still be a perception out there that’s “man it’s still the tigers ... I dunno”.
That unconscious and conscious bias , is what we have to transcend .
The only way to do that ... is to be better with the 18-21 range who weren’t around when that other garbage happened . I believe that’s happening ... because there’s a lot of elite kids here now .

I agree whole heartedly, so they need go out and get a young Burton or a Crichton to prove to me and other fans that they deserve their pay cheques.

Jimmy the Jet, please.

Why does that need to happen? If we have the kids there , and they’re not ready ,wouldn’t it be prudent , to fill the current squad with people who can do the job , but if a kid pushes through , it’s not the end of the world who drop ? Basically what benji was supposed to be , except he couldn’t help himself , and it turned into a farce .

Because if we wait around until one of these elite 15 year olds actually becomes good they will nick off in a heart beat because they’re playing with jimmy the jet and some other old bloke who doesn’t want to be there.

Most are between 17-20 from my understanding ? Eg , Simpkins , Hoffman , Kei

I just hope youre all right about these wonder kids and still fear for blooding them against teams full of elite footy players, it’s actually negligent if you ask me

Are you reading what I’m saying or what ? I literally just said the opposite to that .

 

[BAGNF05]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.


Josh needs better mates. If a mate of mine posted details of my negotiations with my employer on a public forum, I'd never talk to them again. The only offensive part of the Tigers negotiations with Aloiai that @tiga4eva posted is the 24hr deadline which sounds ridiculous but none of us, not even Joshs mate know the background to this, Aloiai might not even. Could just as well be that his manager was stringing us out and the club (potentially quite rightly) said enough is enough.

As well as Josh’s mate he also sounds like a big Tigers fan. He speaks for a lot of us that are completely fed up with the way we do business as a club. I for one am happy for these stories to be shared as it might somehow lead to some positive changes at the joint.

Queue the club apologists hammering me..... now.

Cool , but how does that help Josh get a contract , with his current employer , who I’m assuming is dirty , because he actually gives a toss?
I’ve stated already I think the 24 hr thing is cold . I’ve also stated , I’m dirty at the last 10 weeks as a fan and member . And I think if josh has another year like last he should get the 500k. But if he gets injured , which everything being said about playing hurt , actually proves the point , it’s hard to pay someone 500k if you’re not confident they’re going to do their job. Would you want to pay someone who is perpetually on light duties all the time ?
And here in lies the problem . How much is a guy who loves the club , but gets his fair share of injuries , and is above average , worth ?
Also can you lay off mate seriously . We have only lost McIntyre , and not signed JAC for next year. It’s hardly tantrum worthy!

Mate. Come on. Short memories.

There are no less than 13 of the current origin players that we have either released or gone after but failed to recruit. So no I won’t lay off.

Man , I’m not worried about 3-4 years ago . I’m worried yesterday , tomorrow and today. We have recruited a whole bunch of good juniors , and , are trying our best to nab a big fish . But he issue is , we are fighting the channel 9 crew in rep positions , who all are associated with easts , just purely a coincidence. Also we are fighting that period where we made all those poor decisions , those guys who are friends with ,play with , play against who were all in and around that.
Even if the message is “we are not like the old days “ , it would still be a perception out there that’s “man it’s still the tigers ... I dunno”.
That unconscious and conscious bias , is what we have to transcend .
The only way to do that ... is to be better with the 18-21 range who weren’t around when that other garbage happened . I believe that’s happening ... because there’s a lot of elite kids here now .

I agree whole heartedly, so they need go out and get a young Burton or a Crichton to prove to me and other fans that they deserve their pay cheques.

Jimmy the Jet, please.

Why does that need to happen? If we have the kids there , and they’re not ready ,wouldn’t it be prudent , to fill the current squad with people who can do the job , but if a kid pushes through , it’s not the end of the world who drop ? Basically what benji was supposed to be , except he couldn’t help himself , and it turned into a farce .

Because if we wait around until one of these elite 15 year olds actually becomes good they will nick off in a heart beat because they’re playing with jimmy the jet and some other old bloke who doesn’t want to be there.

Most are between 17-20 from my understanding ? Eg , Simpkins , Hoffman , Kei

I just hope youre all right about these wonder kids and still fear for blooding them against teams full of elite footy players, it’s actually negligent if you ask me

Are you reading what I’m saying or what ? I literally just said the opposite to that .

Right. People who can do the job. Sorry. That was a bit vague for me. Sounds like you’re asking me to just keep supporting mediocrity

 

[BAGNF05]

I’m pro Angus Chrichton by the way . He’s the guy we should have throwing our money at the whole time . Especially with the amount of coin coming off the books next year .

I was originally against it but have liked his form in origin, if we can get him go hard.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.


Josh needs better mates. If a mate of mine posted details of my negotiations with my employer on a public forum, I'd never talk to them again. The only offensive part of the Tigers negotiations with Aloiai that @tiga4eva posted is the 24hr deadline which sounds ridiculous but none of us, not even Joshs mate know the background to this, Aloiai might not even. Could just as well be that his manager was stringing us out and the club (potentially quite rightly) said enough is enough.

As well as Josh’s mate he also sounds like a big Tigers fan. He speaks for a lot of us that are completely fed up with the way we do business as a club. I for one am happy for these stories to be shared as it might somehow lead to some positive changes at the joint.

Queue the club apologists hammering me..... now.

Cool , but how does that help Josh get a contract , with his current employer , who I’m assuming is dirty , because he actually gives a toss?
I’ve stated already I think the 24 hr thing is cold . I’ve also stated , I’m dirty at the last 10 weeks as a fan and member . And I think if josh has another year like last he should get the 500k. But if he gets injured , which everything being said about playing hurt , actually proves the point , it’s hard to pay someone 500k if you’re not confident they’re going to do their job. Would you want to pay someone who is perpetually on light duties all the time ?
And here in lies the problem . How much is a guy who loves the club , but gets his fair share of injuries , and is above average , worth ?
Also can you lay off mate seriously . We have only lost McIntyre , and not signed JAC for next year. It’s hardly tantrum worthy!

Mate. Come on. Short memories.

There are no less than 13 of the current origin players that we have either released or gone after but failed to recruit. So no I won’t lay off.

Man , I’m not worried about 3-4 years ago . I’m worried yesterday , tomorrow and today. We have recruited a whole bunch of good juniors , and , are trying our best to nab a big fish . But he issue is , we are fighting the channel 9 crew in rep positions , who all are associated with easts , just purely a coincidence. Also we are fighting that period where we made all those poor decisions , those guys who are friends with ,play with , play against who were all in and around that.
Even if the message is “we are not like the old days “ , it would still be a perception out there that’s “man it’s still the tigers ... I dunno”.
That unconscious and conscious bias , is what we have to transcend .
The only way to do that ... is to be better with the 18-21 range who weren’t around when that other garbage happened . I believe that’s happening ... because there’s a lot of elite kids here now .

I agree whole heartedly, so they need go out and get a young Burton or a Crichton to prove to me and other fans that they deserve their pay cheques.

Jimmy the Jet, please.

Why does that need to happen? If we have the kids there , and they’re not ready ,wouldn’t it be prudent , to fill the current squad with people who can do the job , but if a kid pushes through , it’s not the end of the world who drop ? Basically what benji was supposed to be , except he couldn’t help himself , and it turned into a farce .

Because if we wait around until one of these elite 15 year olds actually becomes good they will nick off in a heart beat because they’re playing with jimmy the jet and some other old bloke who doesn’t want to be there.

Most are between 17-20 from my understanding ? Eg , Simpkins , Hoffman , Kei

I just hope youre all right about these wonder kids and still fear for blooding them against teams full of elite footy players, it’s actually negligent if you ask me

Are you reading what I’m saying or what ? I literally just said the opposite to that .

Right. People who can do the job. Sorry. That was a bit vague for me. Sounds like you’re asking me to just keep supporting mediocrity

Do whatever you want . In a league with no draft , the only way out for clubs who don’t have the glamour . Is to identify youth and develop them . We went away from that when the crop we developed which was , Brooks , Moses , Tedesco , C Sironen , Nofoaluma , Brown , Simona , Fotueika , Felise , etc only 2 of them stuck around . Or tragedy struck .
We decided to buy , not realising that the only players in that game are easts , the sharks and the dogs .
It was a bad strategy . We are just returning to the right path now , and it will take time .

 

[Harvey]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.


Josh needs better mates. If a mate of mine posted details of my negotiations with my employer on a public forum, I'd never talk to them again. The only offensive part of the Tigers negotiations with Aloiai that @tiga4eva posted is the 24hr deadline which sounds ridiculous but none of us, not even Joshs mate know the background to this, Aloiai might not even. Could just as well be that his manager was stringing us out and the club (potentially quite rightly) said enough is enough.

As well as Josh’s mate he also sounds like a big Tigers fan. He speaks for a lot of us that are completely fed up with the way we do business as a club. I for one am happy for these stories to be shared as it might somehow lead to some positive changes at the joint.

Queue the club apologists hammering me..... now.

Cool , but how does that help Josh get a contract , with his current employer , who I’m assuming is dirty , because he actually gives a toss?
I’ve stated already I think the 24 hr thing is cold . I’ve also stated , I’m dirty at the last 10 weeks as a fan and member . And I think if josh has another year like last he should get the 500k. But if he gets injured , which everything being said about playing hurt , actually proves the point , it’s hard to pay someone 500k if you’re not confident they’re going to do their job. Would you want to pay someone who is perpetually on light duties all the time ?
And here in lies the problem . How much is a guy who loves the club , but gets his fair share of injuries , and is above average , worth ?
Also can you lay off mate seriously . We have only lost McIntyre , and not signed JAC for next year. It’s hardly tantrum worthy!

Mate. Come on. Short memories.

There are no less than 13 of the current origin players that we have either released or gone after but failed to recruit. So no I won’t lay off.

Man , I’m not worried about 3-4 years ago . I’m worried yesterday , tomorrow and today. We have recruited a whole bunch of good juniors , and , are trying our best to nab a big fish . But he issue is , we are fighting the channel 9 crew in rep positions , who all are associated with easts , just purely a coincidence. Also we are fighting that period where we made all those poor decisions , those guys who are friends with ,play with , play against who were all in and around that.
Even if the message is “we are not like the old days “ , it would still be a perception out there that’s “man it’s still the tigers ... I dunno”.
That unconscious and conscious bias , is what we have to transcend .
The only way to do that ... is to be better with the 18-21 range who weren’t around when that other garbage happened . I believe that’s happening ... because there’s a lot of elite kids here now .

I agree whole heartedly, so they need go out and get a young Burton or a Crichton to prove to me and other fans that they deserve their pay cheques.

Jimmy the Jet, please.

Why does that need to happen? If we have the kids there , and they’re not ready ,wouldn’t it be prudent , to fill the current squad with people who can do the job , but if a kid pushes through , it’s not the end of the world who drop ? Basically what benji was supposed to be , except he couldn’t help himself , and it turned into a farce .

Because if we wait around until one of these elite 15 year olds actually becomes good they will nick off in a heart beat because they’re playing with jimmy the jet and some other old bloke who doesn’t want to be there.

Most are between 17-20 from my understanding ? Eg , Simpkins , Hoffman , Kei

I just hope youre all right about these wonder kids and still fear for blooding them against teams full of elite footy players, it’s actually negligent if you ask me

Are you reading what I’m saying or what ? I literally just said the opposite to that .

Right. People who can do the job. Sorry. That was a bit vague for me. Sounds like you’re asking me to just keep supporting mediocrity

Do whatever you want . In a league with no draft , the only way out for clubs who don’t have the glamour . Is to identify youth and develop them . We went away from that when the crop we developed which was , Brooks , Moses , Tedesco , C Sironen , Nofoaluma , Brown , Simona , Fotueika , Felise , etc only 2 of them stuck around . Or tragedy struck .
We decided to buy , not realising that the only players in that game are easts , the sharks and the dogs .
It was a bad strategy . We are just returning to the right path now , and it will take time .

No good identify youth and developing them if you then don't retain them when they start to hit their peak years.

This is where we are falling over at the moment.

 

[BAGNF05]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.


Josh needs better mates. If a mate of mine posted details of my negotiations with my employer on a public forum, I'd never talk to them again. The only offensive part of the Tigers negotiations with Aloiai that @tiga4eva posted is the 24hr deadline which sounds ridiculous but none of us, not even Joshs mate know the background to this, Aloiai might not even. Could just as well be that his manager was stringing us out and the club (potentially quite rightly) said enough is enough.

As well as Josh’s mate he also sounds like a big Tigers fan. He speaks for a lot of us that are completely fed up with the way we do business as a club. I for one am happy for these stories to be shared as it might somehow lead to some positive changes at the joint.

Queue the club apologists hammering me..... now.

Cool , but how does that help Josh get a contract , with his current employer , who I’m assuming is dirty , because he actually gives a toss?
I’ve stated already I think the 24 hr thing is cold . I’ve also stated , I’m dirty at the last 10 weeks as a fan and member . And I think if josh has another year like last he should get the 500k. But if he gets injured , which everything being said about playing hurt , actually proves the point , it’s hard to pay someone 500k if you’re not confident they’re going to do their job. Would you want to pay someone who is perpetually on light duties all the time ?
And here in lies the problem . How much is a guy who loves the club , but gets his fair share of injuries , and is above average , worth ?
Also can you lay off mate seriously . We have only lost McIntyre , and not signed JAC for next year. It’s hardly tantrum worthy!

Mate. Come on. Short memories.

There are no less than 13 of the current origin players that we have either released or gone after but failed to recruit. So no I won’t lay off.

Man , I’m not worried about 3-4 years ago . I’m worried yesterday , tomorrow and today. We have recruited a whole bunch of good juniors , and , are trying our best to nab a big fish . But he issue is , we are fighting the channel 9 crew in rep positions , who all are associated with easts , just purely a coincidence. Also we are fighting that period where we made all those poor decisions , those guys who are friends with ,play with , play against who were all in and around that.
Even if the message is “we are not like the old days “ , it would still be a perception out there that’s “man it’s still the tigers ... I dunno”.
That unconscious and conscious bias , is what we have to transcend .
The only way to do that ... is to be better with the 18-21 range who weren’t around when that other garbage happened . I believe that’s happening ... because there’s a lot of elite kids here now .

I agree whole heartedly, so they need go out and get a young Burton or a Crichton to prove to me and other fans that they deserve their pay cheques.

Jimmy the Jet, please.

Why does that need to happen? If we have the kids there , and they’re not ready ,wouldn’t it be prudent , to fill the current squad with people who can do the job , but if a kid pushes through , it’s not the end of the world who drop ? Basically what benji was supposed to be , except he couldn’t help himself , and it turned into a farce .

Because if we wait around until one of these elite 15 year olds actually becomes good they will nick off in a heart beat because they’re playing with jimmy the jet and some other old bloke who doesn’t want to be there.

Most are between 17-20 from my understanding ? Eg , Simpkins , Hoffman , Kei

I just hope youre all right about these wonder kids and still fear for blooding them against teams full of elite footy players, it’s actually negligent if you ask me

Are you reading what I’m saying or what ? I literally just said the opposite to that .

Right. People who can do the job. Sorry. That was a bit vague for me. Sounds like you’re asking me to just keep supporting mediocrity

Do whatever you want . In a league with no draft , the only way out for clubs who don’t have the glamour . Is to identify youth and develop them . We went away from that when the crop we developed which was , Brooks , Moses , Tedesco , C Sironen , Nofoaluma , Brown , Simona , Fotueika , Felise , etc only 2 of them stuck around . Or tragedy struck .
We decided to buy , not realising that the only players in that game are easts , the sharks and the dogs .
It was a bad strategy . We are just returning to the right path now , and it will take time .

Glamour- an attractive or exciting quality that makes certain people or things seem appealing.

Sounds like something that well paid people in positions of leadership should be aspiring to, to me.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.


Josh needs better mates. If a mate of mine posted details of my negotiations with my employer on a public forum, I'd never talk to them again. The only offensive part of the Tigers negotiations with Aloiai that @tiga4eva posted is the 24hr deadline which sounds ridiculous but none of us, not even Joshs mate know the background to this, Aloiai might not even. Could just as well be that his manager was stringing us out and the club (potentially quite rightly) said enough is enough.

As well as Josh’s mate he also sounds like a big Tigers fan. He speaks for a lot of us that are completely fed up with the way we do business as a club. I for one am happy for these stories to be shared as it might somehow lead to some positive changes at the joint.

Queue the club apologists hammering me..... now.

Cool , but how does that help Josh get a contract , with his current employer , who I’m assuming is dirty , because he actually gives a toss?
I’ve stated already I think the 24 hr thing is cold . I’ve also stated , I’m dirty at the last 10 weeks as a fan and member . And I think if josh has another year like last he should get the 500k. But if he gets injured , which everything being said about playing hurt , actually proves the point , it’s hard to pay someone 500k if you’re not confident they’re going to do their job. Would you want to pay someone who is perpetually on light duties all the time ?
And here in lies the problem . How much is a guy who loves the club , but gets his fair share of injuries , and is above average , worth ?
Also can you lay off mate seriously . We have only lost McIntyre , and not signed JAC for next year. It’s hardly tantrum worthy!

Mate. Come on. Short memories.

There are no less than 13 of the current origin players that we have either released or gone after but failed to recruit. So no I won’t lay off.

Man , I’m not worried about 3-4 years ago . I’m worried yesterday , tomorrow and today. We have recruited a whole bunch of good juniors , and , are trying our best to nab a big fish . But he issue is , we are fighting the channel 9 crew in rep positions , who all are associated with easts , just purely a coincidence. Also we are fighting that period where we made all those poor decisions , those guys who are friends with ,play with , play against who were all in and around that.
Even if the message is “we are not like the old days “ , it would still be a perception out there that’s “man it’s still the tigers ... I dunno”.
That unconscious and conscious bias , is what we have to transcend .
The only way to do that ... is to be better with the 18-21 range who weren’t around when that other garbage happened . I believe that’s happening ... because there’s a lot of elite kids here now .

I agree whole heartedly, so they need go out and get a young Burton or a Crichton to prove to me and other fans that they deserve their pay cheques.

Jimmy the Jet, please.

Why does that need to happen? If we have the kids there , and they’re not ready ,wouldn’t it be prudent , to fill the current squad with people who can do the job , but if a kid pushes through , it’s not the end of the world who drop ? Basically what benji was supposed to be , except he couldn’t help himself , and it turned into a farce .

Because if we wait around until one of these elite 15 year olds actually becomes good they will nick off in a heart beat because they’re playing with jimmy the jet and some other old bloke who doesn’t want to be there.

Most are between 17-20 from my understanding ? Eg , Simpkins , Hoffman , Kei

I just hope youre all right about these wonder kids and still fear for blooding them against teams full of elite footy players, it’s actually negligent if you ask me

Are you reading what I’m saying or what ? I literally just said the opposite to that .

Right. People who can do the job. Sorry. That was a bit vague for me. Sounds like you’re asking me to just keep supporting mediocrity

Do whatever you want . In a league with no draft , the only way out for clubs who don’t have the glamour . Is to identify youth and develop them . We went away from that when the crop we developed which was , Brooks , Moses , Tedesco , C Sironen , Nofoaluma , Brown , Simona , Fotueika , Felise , etc only 2 of them stuck around . Or tragedy struck .
We decided to buy , not realising that the only players in that game are easts , the sharks and the dogs .
It was a bad strategy . We are just returning to the right path now , and it will take time .

Glamour- an attractive or exciting quality that makes certain people or things seem appealing.

Sounds like something that well paid people in positions of leadership should be aspiring to, to me.

Pretty hard to compete with Movie stars , dual international’s, and salary cap rorting . That’s where the kids want to go . It’s where the glamour sits , either red hill or somewhere between Redfern and tbondi beach .
The storm and panthers are better models . Built around loyalty and growth within the club . The new coaching pathways jobs for Hodgo and Palmer is another way to create that . I can’t believe this didn’t exist prior .

 

[BAGNF05]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.


Josh needs better mates. If a mate of mine posted details of my negotiations with my employer on a public forum, I'd never talk to them again. The only offensive part of the Tigers negotiations with Aloiai that @tiga4eva posted is the 24hr deadline which sounds ridiculous but none of us, not even Joshs mate know the background to this, Aloiai might not even. Could just as well be that his manager was stringing us out and the club (potentially quite rightly) said enough is enough.

As well as Josh’s mate he also sounds like a big Tigers fan. He speaks for a lot of us that are completely fed up with the way we do business as a club. I for one am happy for these stories to be shared as it might somehow lead to some positive changes at the joint.

Queue the club apologists hammering me..... now.

Cool , but how does that help Josh get a contract , with his current employer , who I’m assuming is dirty , because he actually gives a toss?
I’ve stated already I think the 24 hr thing is cold . I’ve also stated , I’m dirty at the last 10 weeks as a fan and member . And I think if josh has another year like last he should get the 500k. But if he gets injured , which everything being said about playing hurt , actually proves the point , it’s hard to pay someone 500k if you’re not confident they’re going to do their job. Would you want to pay someone who is perpetually on light duties all the time ?
And here in lies the problem . How much is a guy who loves the club , but gets his fair share of injuries , and is above average , worth ?
Also can you lay off mate seriously . We have only lost McIntyre , and not signed JAC for next year. It’s hardly tantrum worthy!

Mate. Come on. Short memories.

There are no less than 13 of the current origin players that we have either released or gone after but failed to recruit. So no I won’t lay off.

Man , I’m not worried about 3-4 years ago . I’m worried yesterday , tomorrow and today. We have recruited a whole bunch of good juniors , and , are trying our best to nab a big fish . But he issue is , we are fighting the channel 9 crew in rep positions , who all are associated with easts , just purely a coincidence. Also we are fighting that period where we made all those poor decisions , those guys who are friends with ,play with , play against who were all in and around that.
Even if the message is “we are not like the old days “ , it would still be a perception out there that’s “man it’s still the tigers ... I dunno”.
That unconscious and conscious bias , is what we have to transcend .
The only way to do that ... is to be better with the 18-21 range who weren’t around when that other garbage happened . I believe that’s happening ... because there’s a lot of elite kids here now .

I agree whole heartedly, so they need go out and get a young Burton or a Crichton to prove to me and other fans that they deserve their pay cheques.

Jimmy the Jet, please.

Why does that need to happen? If we have the kids there , and they’re not ready ,wouldn’t it be prudent , to fill the current squad with people who can do the job , but if a kid pushes through , it’s not the end of the world who drop ? Basically what benji was supposed to be , except he couldn’t help himself , and it turned into a farce .

Because if we wait around until one of these elite 15 year olds actually becomes good they will nick off in a heart beat because they’re playing with jimmy the jet and some other old bloke who doesn’t want to be there.

Most are between 17-20 from my understanding ? Eg , Simpkins , Hoffman , Kei

I just hope youre all right about these wonder kids and still fear for blooding them against teams full of elite footy players, it’s actually negligent if you ask me

Are you reading what I’m saying or what ? I literally just said the opposite to that .

Right. People who can do the job. Sorry. That was a bit vague for me. Sounds like you’re asking me to just keep supporting mediocrity

Do whatever you want . In a league with no draft , the only way out for clubs who don’t have the glamour . Is to identify youth and develop them . We went away from that when the crop we developed which was , Brooks , Moses , Tedesco , C Sironen , Nofoaluma , Brown , Simona , Fotueika , Felise , etc only 2 of them stuck around . Or tragedy struck .
We decided to buy , not realising that the only players in that game are easts , the sharks and the dogs .
It was a bad strategy . We are just returning to the right path now , and it will take time .

Glamour- an attractive or exciting quality that makes certain people or things seem appealing.

Sounds like something that well paid people in positions of leadership should be aspiring to, to me.

Pretty hard to compete with Movie stars , dual international’s, and salary cap rorting . That’s where the kids want to go . It’s where the glamour sits , either red hill or somewhere between Redfern and tbondi beach .
The storm and panthers are better models . Built around loyalty and growth within the club . The new coaching pathways jobs for Hodgo and Palmer is another way to create that . I can’t believe this didn’t exist prior .

With all due respect, that’s who we are up against. Maybe we don’t belong in the NRL If we can’t compete or don’t intend to.

As for the cap rorting, I’d like to see someone from Management take a stand against it, it’s that blatantly obvious. Rorters had seven origin reps, we had none.

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

This would have to be a first, contract negotiations thrashed out with members of a footy forum & Facebook fan pages.

 

[Telltails]

South's fans organised a petition to keep Jason Clark a couple of seasons ago when they heard he was being pushed out - the club listened.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.


Josh needs better mates. If a mate of mine posted details of my negotiations with my employer on a public forum, I'd never talk to them again. The only offensive part of the Tigers negotiations with Aloiai that @tiga4eva posted is the 24hr deadline which sounds ridiculous but none of us, not even Joshs mate know the background to this, Aloiai might not even. Could just as well be that his manager was stringing us out and the club (potentially quite rightly) said enough is enough.

As well as Josh’s mate he also sounds like a big Tigers fan. He speaks for a lot of us that are completely fed up with the way we do business as a club. I for one am happy for these stories to be shared as it might somehow lead to some positive changes at the joint.

Queue the club apologists hammering me..... now.

Cool , but how does that help Josh get a contract , with his current employer , who I’m assuming is dirty , because he actually gives a toss?
I’ve stated already I think the 24 hr thing is cold . I’ve also stated , I’m dirty at the last 10 weeks as a fan and member . And I think if josh has another year like last he should get the 500k. But if he gets injured , which everything being said about playing hurt , actually proves the point , it’s hard to pay someone 500k if you’re not confident they’re going to do their job. Would you want to pay someone who is perpetually on light duties all the time ?
And here in lies the problem . How much is a guy who loves the club , but gets his fair share of injuries , and is above average , worth ?
Also can you lay off mate seriously . We have only lost McIntyre , and not signed JAC for next year. It’s hardly tantrum worthy!

Mate. Come on. Short memories.

There are no less than 13 of the current origin players that we have either released or gone after but failed to recruit. So no I won’t lay off.

Man , I’m not worried about 3-4 years ago . I’m worried yesterday , tomorrow and today. We have recruited a whole bunch of good juniors , and , are trying our best to nab a big fish . But he issue is , we are fighting the channel 9 crew in rep positions , who all are associated with easts , just purely a coincidence. Also we are fighting that period where we made all those poor decisions , those guys who are friends with ,play with , play against who were all in and around that.
Even if the message is “we are not like the old days “ , it would still be a perception out there that’s “man it’s still the tigers ... I dunno”.
That unconscious and conscious bias , is what we have to transcend .
The only way to do that ... is to be better with the 18-21 range who weren’t around when that other garbage happened . I believe that’s happening ... because there’s a lot of elite kids here now .

I agree whole heartedly, so they need go out and get a young Burton or a Crichton to prove to me and other fans that they deserve their pay cheques.

Jimmy the Jet, please.

Why does that need to happen? If we have the kids there , and they’re not ready ,wouldn’t it be prudent , to fill the current squad with people who can do the job , but if a kid pushes through , it’s not the end of the world who drop ? Basically what benji was supposed to be , except he couldn’t help himself , and it turned into a farce .

Because if we wait around until one of these elite 15 year olds actually becomes good they will nick off in a heart beat because they’re playing with jimmy the jet and some other old bloke who doesn’t want to be there.

Most are between 17-20 from my understanding ? Eg , Simpkins , Hoffman , Kei

I just hope youre all right about these wonder kids and still fear for blooding them against teams full of elite footy players, it’s actually negligent if you ask me

Are you reading what I’m saying or what ? I literally just said the opposite to that .

Right. People who can do the job. Sorry. That was a bit vague for me. Sounds like you’re asking me to just keep supporting mediocrity

Do whatever you want . In a league with no draft , the only way out for clubs who don’t have the glamour . Is to identify youth and develop them . We went away from that when the crop we developed which was , Brooks , Moses , Tedesco , C Sironen , Nofoaluma , Brown , Simona , Fotueika , Felise , etc only 2 of them stuck around . Or tragedy struck .
We decided to buy , not realising that the only players in that game are easts , the sharks and the dogs .
It was a bad strategy . We are just returning to the right path now , and it will take time .

Glamour- an attractive or exciting quality that makes certain people or things seem appealing.

Sounds like something that well paid people in positions of leadership should be aspiring to, to me.

Pretty hard to compete with Movie stars , dual international’s, and salary cap rorting . That’s where the kids want to go . It’s where the glamour sits , either red hill or somewhere between Redfern and tbondi beach .
The storm and panthers are better models . Built around loyalty and growth within the club . The new coaching pathways jobs for Hodgo and Palmer is another way to create that . I can’t believe this didn’t exist prior .

With all due respect, that’s who we are up against. Maybe we don’t belong in the NRL If we can’t compete or don’t intend to.

As for the cap rorting, I’d like to see someone from Management take a stand against it, it’s that blatantly obvious. Rorters had seven origin reps, we had none.

Nope . Leicester are up against the glamour of Man U , the money of Man city and Chelsea , and the history of Liverpool . And have pulled themselves up out of the muck . Liverpool also did it , through smart youthful acquisitions. They then could finally afford to buy elite players .
That’s in an absolute shark pit of a sport .
We shouldn’t be trying to beat them at their own game , but rather our own . And that’s through juniors . We were stupid to ever go away from it .

 

[BAGNF05]

South's fans organised a petition to keep Jason Clark a couple of seasons ago when they heard he was being pushed out - the club listened.

Maybe our petition for Benji will grow some legs after we bungled the Aloiai deal lol

 

[The_Patriot]

Spoke to Josh today and showed him what I posted. He said it was fine and he’s not embarrassed by it because it’s all true. He also said if the Club feel they’ve acted appropriately then they shouldn’t feel uncomfortable about it either. For those honestly doubting the club implementing these deadlines etc, feel free to meet me at a home game next year and I’ll show you the correspondence between Josh’s management and the club. I’ve been a member of this forum for over 10 years, I’m not one to make things up.


Josh needs better mates. If a mate of mine posted details of my negotiations with my employer on a public forum, I'd never talk to them again. The only offensive part of the Tigers negotiations with Aloiai that @tiga4eva posted is the 24hr deadline which sounds ridiculous but none of us, not even Joshs mate know the background to this, Aloiai might not even. Could just as well be that his manager was stringing us out and the club (potentially quite rightly) said enough is enough.

As well as Josh’s mate he also sounds like a big Tigers fan. He speaks for a lot of us that are completely fed up with the way we do business as a club. I for one am happy for these stories to be shared as it might somehow lead to some positive changes at the joint.

Queue the club apologists hammering me..... now.

Cool , but how does that help Josh get a contract , with his current employer , who I’m assuming is dirty , because he actually gives a toss?
I’ve stated already I think the 24 hr thing is cold . I’ve also stated , I’m dirty at the last 10 weeks as a fan and member . And I think if josh has another year like last he should get the 500k. But if he gets injured , which everything being said about playing hurt , actually proves the point , it’s hard to pay someone 500k if you’re not confident they’re going to do their job. Would you want to pay someone who is perpetually on light duties all the time ?
And here in lies the problem . How much is a guy who loves the club , but gets his fair share of injuries , and is above average , worth ?
Also can you lay off mate seriously . We have only lost McIntyre , and not signed JAC for next year. It’s hardly tantrum worthy!

Mate. Come on. Short memories.

There are no less than 13 of the current origin players that we have either released or gone after but failed to recruit. So no I won’t lay off.

Man , I’m not worried about 3-4 years ago . I’m worried yesterday , tomorrow and today. We have recruited a whole bunch of good juniors , and , are trying our best to nab a big fish . But he issue is , we are fighting the channel 9 crew in rep positions , who all are associated with easts , just purely a coincidence. Also we are fighting that period where we made all those poor decisions , those guys who are friends with ,play with , play against who were all in and around that.
Even if the message is “we are not like the old days “ , it would still be a perception out there that’s “man it’s still the tigers ... I dunno”.
That unconscious and conscious bias , is what we have to transcend .
The only way to do that ... is to be better with the 18-21 range who weren’t around when that other garbage happened . I believe that’s happening ... because there’s a lot of elite kids here now .

I agree whole heartedly, so they need go out and get a young Burton or a Crichton to prove to me and other fans that they deserve their pay cheques.

Jimmy the Jet, please.

Why does that need to happen? If we have the kids there , and they’re not ready ,wouldn’t it be prudent , to fill the current squad with people who can do the job , but if a kid pushes through , it’s not the end of the world who drop ? Basically what benji was supposed to be , except he couldn’t help himself , and it turned into a farce .

Because if we wait around until one of these elite 15 year olds actually becomes good they will nick off in a heart beat because they’re playing with jimmy the jet and some other old bloke who doesn’t want to be there.

Most are between 17-20 from my understanding ? Eg , Simpkins , Hoffman , Kei

I just hope youre all right about these wonder kids and still fear for blooding them against teams full of elite footy players, it’s actually negligent if you ask me

Are you reading what I’m saying or what ? I literally just said the opposite to that .

Right. People who can do the job. Sorry. That was a bit vague for me. Sounds like you’re asking me to just keep supporting mediocrity

Do whatever you want . In a league with no draft , the only way out for clubs who don’t have the glamour . Is to identify youth and develop them . We went away from that when the crop we developed which was , Brooks , Moses , Tedesco , C Sironen , Nofoaluma , Brown , Simona , Fotueika , Felise , etc only 2 of them stuck around . Or tragedy struck .
We decided to buy , not realising that the only players in that game are easts , the sharks and the dogs .
It was a bad strategy . We are just returning to the right path now , and it will take time .

No good identify youth and developing them if you then don't retain them when they start to hit their peak years.

This is where we are falling over at the moment.

That is where we have failed in the past but that is not where we are struggling right now.

Maguire re-installed the junior development and recruiting of good young kids to come through the system.

Previous coaches lost those players, not this coach!

 

[diedpretty]

people on here saying that he has only had 1 good year so why a big upgrade. You either take the gamble that last year was a turning point and he has reached the next level and will continue to improve and pay accordingly or as this contract is from 2022 give him a 10% increase on his current contract for next year as a show of good faith - offer x amount over 3 years from 2022 with a clause that the amount would be increased to y if his 2021 season is as good or better than this year. You give the guy the opportunity to show he has upped his game and is worthy of a decent upgrade.