Aloiai

@tbones10 said in [Aloiai](/post/1268231) said:
First things first, I don't want Josh to leave, I honestly believe he is our future club captain. But in saying that, if he has to go, we should get Schuster or Cust, they are the only ones we need and the only two that have a decent future in the game. At a stretch young Hopaote, but that brings it's own luggage that we don't need.
But manly won't let those two go, so we shouldn't let Josh go, it's a moot point.
I also hear a lot of bring Sirro back, that is rubbish. Firstly the paying the son for the deeds of the father is a recipe for disaster and don't forget how the dad carried on when the young bloke went to manly and how disloyal and disrespectful we were. Besides young Sirro never played a decent game for us (yes I'm generalizing) only started playing consistent outside DCE and his career was on the line.

Well, he’ll never be captain of anything now
 
@Vince-Farrar said in [Aloiai](/post/1268259) said:
Has the green keeper actually signed a contract with Manly yet? If not what if they get cold feet and decide they don’t want him then that puts us in an awkward position.


It dosent put us in a awkward situation it puts JA in an untenable position.JA is the big loser
 
Wests Tigers are also considering making a play for a Curtis Sironen homecoming as part of a potential swap deal between Manly and Sironen’s former club.

The move could mean Sironen returns to the Tigers which would allow disgruntled prop Josh Aloiai to switch to the Sea Eagles immediately. The Tigers are steadfast in their belief they will not release Aloiai unless they find a suitable replacement and expect him back at training on November 30.
 
If Josh had a single ounce of brains or professionalism in him, he would come out, PERSONALLY, and make a statement that says,

"Im sorry this has played out publicly. Im committed to the tigers for 2021 and my career after that is still being nogotiated. It wont change my resolve to be the best player i can be and continue to improve. As like all people, I'd like to keep any future negotiations in my life private, between myself, my manager and the tigers. Im ready for training on November 30 andthats all I need to be saying. Thank you."

Suddenly, i guarantee the heat would be back on the club as the big horrible people forcing him out against his will. Its smart business on his part.

But he doesnt have a brain, he doesnt have any self respect and he has little regard for the game and the club obviously. He is being very poorly advised and thats worse, because he is too dumb to see something right infront of his face. Perception is reality.
 
Jad I agree that his position is untameable but if Manly pull out we have a situation where we have a player that doesn’t want to be here and we can’t offload him. This needs to be sorted ASAP forget the Mexican standoff just get it sorted.
 
@Swordy said in [Aloiai](/post/1268275) said:
If Josh had a single ounce of brains or professionalism in him, he would come out, PERSONALLY, and make a statement that says,

"Im sorry this has played out publicly. Im committed to the tigers for 2021 and my career after that is still being nogotiated. It wont change my resolve to be the best player i can be and continue to improve. As like all people, I'd like to keep any future negotiations in my life private, between myself, my manager and the tigers. Im ready for training on November 30 andthats all I need to be saying. Thank you."

Suddenly, i guarantee the heat would be back on the club as the big horrible people forcing him out against his will. Its smart business on his part.

But he doesnt have a brain, he doesnt have any self respect and he has little regard for the game and the club obviously. He is being very poorly advised and thats worse, because he is too dumb to see something right infront of his face. Perception is reality.

Unfortunately, what’s been seen can’t be unseen.
JA will have to live with it. Can’t see any heat coming back to us.
 
Curtis Sironen for JA would be an acceptable swap.
it would be ideal if we could have said take Reynolds and JA
like when we let Faith go to sharks they had to take Gibbs too
 
This is all out of character for JA, he's very well liked amongst the players and staff. All I know is he had a chat with Madge and from that it went south very quickly so I'd be very interested in what was said.
There's something not right at the club because Lee, Pascoe, Hartigan and Maguire seem to be on different planets, communication between the 4 appears optional because publicly it's all over the place the grubby media are loving it. You just have to look through the forum and see everyone's concerns about what's happening with retention and recruitment so you'd have to say that those 4 have differing views on how to go forward.
The club needs a new motto
" United we stand Devided we fall"
On a side note who else is laughing at Seibold going to the Knights hahahaha
 
@CarltonDry said in [Aloiai](/post/1268318) said:
publicly it’s all over the place the grubby media are loving it.

No it's not. The Chair has made some strong statements on the matter and the media are behind us.

Your post doesn't make any sense to me. Do you some inside information that you would care to share ?
 
@CarltonDry said in [Aloiai](/post/1268318) said:
This is all out of character for JA, he's very well liked amongst the players and staff. All I know is he had a chat with Madge and from that it went south very quickly so I'd be very interested in what was said.
There's something not right at the club because Lee, Pascoe, Hartigan and Maguire seem to be on different planets, communication between the 4 appears optional because publicly it's all over the place the grubby media are loving it. You just have to look through the forum and see everyone's concerns about what's happening with retention and recruitment so you'd have to say that those 4 have differing views on how to go forward.
The club needs a new motto
" United we stand Devided we fall"
On a side note who else is laughing at Seibold going to the Knights hahahaha

True, this is on the club too, offer a bloke 450 when he’s worth 500 and then he looks at all the blokes in the club on 600+ and none of them are having a go like he is. Of course he wants out.
 
*Saab's manager, Mario Tartak, has been agitating for a release from his contract with the Dragons for months, and his client was absent for new coach Anthony Griffin's first day in charge of the joint venture club on Tuesday.

The Herald understands Saab, who still has another two years to run on his contract with the Dragons, wants to link with the Sea Eagles as early the upcoming season on a deal worth more than what he is currently earning at St George Illawarra.*

Sound familiar?
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Aloiai](/post/1262334) said:
see ya Josh
Do not pay overs we have front row depth
Stefano twal mikaele tamau
even tolman on a cheap deal would be a good signing

Nah... make him stay and cut Leichhardt and Campbelltown WITH A PAIR OF SCISSORS!
 
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Aloiai](/post/1268242) said:
@Strongee said in [Aloiai](/post/1267724) said:
@tig_prmz said in [Aloiai](/post/1267719) said:
I still don't believe that it's purely a $$ thing. Clearly Aloiai is unhappy with the club about something. Yeh it could be the money, but somewhere we are letting our players down. It could be the lack of success, frustration at changes, frustration at not getting TPAs, lack of assistance outside of footy anything. I do deal with Pacific Islanders at my job and one thing I've realised is that they value a lot of other things over money. It's definitely a generic statement but we really need to have a very deep look inside our structures.

Yea , because he wants to be captain and no one likes him . And when the players picked best and fairest it was basically a popularity contest , as most of these things are because on the field , you’re just worried about your job , rather than who the best player is . He was dirty he got 1 vote because he deserves more ! And the playing group was off him . I bet in large part because he was best mates with Matto . It’s how these things go unfortunately

Hell, lots of opinion and speculation contained in that post mate.

Maybe , I’d heard a lot of it on the grape vine , but purely hearsay really . Even if half of that’s true , it is what it is. By the way , I’m not even into Aloiai about it . I’ve played in teams where I hated the core group, thought they were a bunch of lazy A - holes , glory hounds . And the negative feeling would have been mutual for sure.

And I’ve been on teams where I was ? in the core group. Sometimes you can stay at the same club , and that can ebb and flow .
As with most jobs , and personality melting pots, you can definitely be close with someone then hate thier guts somewhere down the future .
 
@CarltonDry said in [Aloiai](/post/1268318) said:
This is all out of character for JA, he's very well liked amongst the players and staff. All I know is he had a chat with Madge and from that it went south very quickly so I'd be very interested in what was said.
There's something not right at the club because Lee, Pascoe, Hartigan and Maguire seem to be on different planets, communication between the 4 appears optional because publicly it's all over the place the grubby media are loving it. You just have to look through the forum and see everyone's concerns about what's happening with retention and recruitment so you'd have to say that those 4 have differing views on how to go forward.
The club needs a new motto
" United we stand Devided we fall"
On a side note who else is laughing at Seibold going to the Knights hahahaha

"he had a chat with Madge and from that it went south very quickly so I'd be very interested in what was said." Yes, it would be interesting.
From the rest of your post, it appears you are assuming that Maguire said something untoward to Aloiai, and that what was said differs with what Lee, Pascoe, and Hartigan are saying. How do you know this?
Perhaps Aloiai said something untoward to Maguire that Maguire reacted to.
 

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