Aloiai

[JD Tiger]

Hey all, this doesn't really change the plot but it wasn't necessarily Josh's choice, it was the influence and manipulation of his manager and also partially his wife. Bottom line, he's still chasing money but it wasn't solely his own choice; this also explains why he had a sudden change of heart for the club. It's honestly really bad but it wasn't completely in his hands.

So it wasn't his choice, he was manipulated by his manager and his wife? His manager is there to represent him, JA always has a choice to fire his manager. And idk what you are referring to with his wife, but regardless of whatever you're talking about, JA always has a choice, and ALWAYS should be responsible for his actions, like everyone else (who is mentally able to) should be.

Please elaborate if you are in a position to do so.

As I've stated that the plot doesn't change; it is now common knowledge that his wife and manager were his driven motifs for HIS choice of wanting an early release. Doesn't change anything, it was still choice and it was his poor way of reacting to the terms that led to the tarnish of his reputation

I'm not going to comment on the relationship he has with his missus, whatever happens there is between them and totally not my business. If his wife encouraged him to pursue more money, then of course I can understand that. Footy is a short-term job, and it pays the bills, so understandably a person would want to maximise that income and provide for the family.

I believe it's the way he has gone about it that has people offside. None of this should have been made public, it damages the club and works against JA getting what he wants.

I hope now for a quick resolution, whatever that may be.

 

[mikey]

Hey all, this doesn't really change the plot but it wasn't necessarily Josh's choice, it was the influence and manipulation of his manager and also partially his wife. Bottom line, he's still chasing money but it wasn't solely his own choice; this also explains why he had a sudden change of heart for the club. It's honestly really bad but it wasn't completely in his hands.

Seriously?
That's like saying I didn't mean to hit her. She called me a wuss and that manipulated me into it.

I guess so :/

All good mate. I just can't see a defence for him. It's clear greed and manipulation - doesn't matter who cooked the plan up.

 

[Spartan117]

Dear Josh and Tigers Management

Please both apologise at the same time, figure this out and we will all forget that this last 2 weeks happened.

 

[Tiger5150]

Hey all, this doesn't really change the plot but it wasn't necessarily Josh's choice, it was the influence and manipulation of his manager and also partially his wife. Bottom line, he's still chasing money but it wasn't solely his own choice; this also explains why he had a sudden change of heart for the club. It's honestly really bad but it wasn't completely in his hands.

So it wasn't his choice, he was manipulated by his manager and his wife? His manager is there to represent him, JA always has a choice to fire his manager. And idk what you are referring to with his wife, but regardless of whatever you're talking about, JA always has a choice, and ALWAYS should be responsible for his actions, like everyone else (who is mentally able to) should be.

Please elaborate if you are in a position to do so.

As I've stated that the plot doesn't change; it is now ***common knowledge*** that his wife and manager were his driven motifs for HIS choice of wanting an early release. Doesn't change anything, it was still choice and it was his poor way of reacting to the terms that led to the tarnish of his reputation

Common knowledge? I have only see you say that, noone else.

 

[dazza65]

Hey all, this doesn't really change the plot but it wasn't necessarily Josh's choice, it was the influence and manipulation of his manager and also partially his wife. Bottom line, he's still chasing money but it wasn't solely his own choice; this also explains why he had a sudden change of heart for the club. It's honestly really bad but it wasn't completely in his hands.

So it wasn't his choice, he was manipulated by his manager and his wife? His manager is there to represent him, JA always has a choice to fire his manager. And idk what you are referring to with his wife, but regardless of whatever you're talking about, JA always has a choice, and ALWAYS should be responsible for his actions, like everyone else (who is mentally able to) should be.

Please elaborate if you are in a position to do so.

As I've stated that the plot doesn't change; it is now ***common knowledge*** that his wife and manager were his driven motifs for HIS choice of wanting an early release. Doesn't change anything, it was still choice and it was his poor way of reacting to the terms that led to the tarnish of his reputation

Common knowledge? I have only see you say that, noone else.

Doesn't matter in the least who was in his ear- see my previous post - be a man, make your own decisions and be accountable for those decisions. - quite simple really - but the problem is there is always apologists....hence the problem...

 

[Newtown]

Hey all, this doesn't really change the plot but it wasn't necessarily Josh's choice, it was the influence and manipulation of his manager and also partially his wife. Bottom line, he's still chasing money but it wasn't solely his own choice; this also explains why he had a sudden change of heart for the club. It's honestly really bad but it wasn't completely in his hands.

Honestly, I believe the majority of managers have a bad rather than good impact on players and NRL as a whole. It is something the NRL needs to look at urgently before it destroys any further,

 

[tonza]

Sounds like if we get Joe O they’ll just let Aloiai walk.... not really a tough stance.

Sounds like it Josh, however it’s a catch 22 situation because we need to release him to free up a spot and cash for Joe

I don’t believe that’s true. We have 28 signed for ‘21 and had enough money to offer JAC.

I still only get 27 on my sheet, with Hoffman Dev. and Laurie in 2022. I am counting Tamou, Roberts and Momo. Dont know who I have missed?

 

[twentyforty]

Hey all, this doesn't really change the plot but it wasn't necessarily Josh's choice, it was the influence and manipulation of his manager and also partially his wife. Bottom line, he's still chasing money but it wasn't solely his own choice; this also explains why he had a sudden change of heart for the club. It's honestly really bad but it wasn't completely in his hands.

So it wasn't his choice, he was manipulated by his manager and his wife? His manager is there to represent him, JA always has a choice to fire his manager. And idk what you are referring to with his wife, but regardless of whatever you're talking about, JA always has a choice, and ALWAYS should be responsible for his actions, like everyone else (who is mentally able to) should be.

Please elaborate if you are in a position to do so.

As I've stated that the plot doesn't change; it is now common knowledge that his wife and manager were his driven motifs for HIS choice of wanting an early release. Doesn't change anything, it was still choice and it was his poor way of reacting to the terms that led to the tarnish of his reputation

I'm not going to comment on the relationship he has with his missus, whatever happens there is between them and totally not my business. If his wife encouraged him to pursue more money, then of course I can understand that. Footy is a short-term job, and it pays the bills, so understandably a person would want to maximise that income and provide for the family.

I believe it's the way he has gone about it that has people offside. None of this should have been made public, it damages the club and works against JA getting what he wants.

I hope now for a quick resolution, whatever that may be.

I agree JD, keep yer 10 meters on this business between the 3 of them.
However, on the subject of motives, I would point out something.
Often a dominant motive for people with an online presence is the building of followers and supporters.
And one of the ways to do this is to talk your way into, then out of, sticky confrontational situations which get people talking.
There are so many more people who can now pronounce his name.

 

[Lauren]

**The threat of sacking should have never been mentioned.** This is where the club gets it wrong. Their initial statements that JA had a contract with the club for 2021 and the club would be enforcing that contract unless they were compensated was all that needed to be said. No more statements were needed. Now it just looks like its a slanging match between the 2 parties.

Haven't really followed it too closely since it broke, so excuse me for asking but has the club threatened to sack?
I was aware of, the contract will be fulfilled in any way the club sees fit (mowing lawns) comment from Lee but seemed to have missed this. Or was it actually part of that statement? - tbh that specific comment surprised me so much that I didn't actually read the full article.

Just want the best outcome for the club and team.
And this is not a dig at the club but I can't actually remember the last time our playing group seemed like a band of brothers(think they've showed signs of it over the past few years but they've also faced some distractions too) or when the club itself had that feeling of being one big family.
Might sound silly but they(the team) make it easy for us fans to embrace them in that way however I'd also like to see them have that same sense too.


There was a quote from an unnamed source from WT in the Daily Rag. I'm pretty sure no one of substance would have said it but as usual the media writes it up as gospel. My remark was in reply to another poster saying that the ultimatum had been made.

Thanks for that @diedpretty.
I seriously can't help but be nervous when we show our hand too early. Especially with knowing that the more vocal we are, the more media will publicise it.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Sounds like if we get Joe O they’ll just let Aloiai walk.... not really a tough stance.

Sounds like it Josh, however it’s a catch 22 situation because we need to release him to free up a spot and cash for Joe

I don’t believe that’s true. We have 28 signed for ‘21 and had enough money to offer JAC.

I still only get 27 on my sheet, with Hoffman Dev. and Laurie in 2022. I am counting Tamou, Roberts and Momo. Dont know who I have missed?

The 28 includes Aloiai

 

[JC99]

Sounds like if we get Joe O they’ll just let Aloiai walk.... not really a tough stance.

Sounds like it Josh, however it’s a catch 22 situation because we need to release him to free up a spot and cash for Joe

I don’t believe that’s true. We have 28 signed for ‘21 and had enough money to offer JAC.

I still only get 27 on my sheet, with Hoffman Dev. and Laurie in 2022. I am counting Tamou, Roberts and Momo. Dont know who I have missed?

The 28 includes Aloiai

We only have 27 including Aloiai

 

[avocadoontoast]

Sounds like if we get Joe O they’ll just let Aloiai walk.... not really a tough stance.

Sounds like it Josh, however it’s a catch 22 situation because we need to release him to free up a spot and cash for Joe

I don’t believe that’s true. We have 28 signed for ‘21 and had enough money to offer JAC.

I still only get 27 on my sheet, with Hoffman Dev. and Laurie in 2022. I am counting Tamou, Roberts and Momo. Dont know who I have missed?

The 28 includes Aloiai

We only have 27 including Aloiai

Whoops, I was counting Laurie. My bad. 27 is right.

 

[tig_prmz]

Dear Josh and Tigers Management

Please both apologise at the same time, figure this out and we will all forget that this last 2 weeks happened.

How do I give two thumbs up?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Dear Josh and Tigers Management

Please both apologise at the same time, figure this out and we will all forget that this last 2 weeks happened.

I don't believe that will work. He has a big offer from a rival club. We should not match it but wish him good luck when his manager comes up with an offer acceptible to WTs.

 

[AJ1]

Sounds like if we get Joe O they’ll just let Aloiai walk.... not really a tough stance.

Sounds like it Josh, however it’s a catch 22 situation because we need to release him to free up a spot and cash for Joe

I don’t believe that’s true. We have 28 signed for ‘21 and had enough money to offer JAC.

It depends on who else they have their sights on. JO would be an increase in cap on JA, even if Broncos chip in, they wouldn’t be like for like. Also losing Sam Mac potentially means we have to spend more on replacing him unless they pick up another minimum wager.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Sounds like if we get Joe O they’ll just let Aloiai walk.... not really a tough stance.

Sounds like it Josh, however it’s a catch 22 situation because we need to release him to free up a spot and cash for Joe

I don’t believe that’s true. We have 28 signed for ‘21 and had enough money to offer JAC.

It depends on who else they have their sights on. JO would be an increase in cap on JA, even if Broncos chip in, they wouldn’t be like for like. Also losing Sam Mac potentially means we have to spend more on replacing him unless they pick up another minimum wager.

If that's the case then we shouldn't release Aloiai. He should only be released if it is a beneficial situation to us.

 

[the_third]

Aloiai is a better player than Ofenagauhaue ..

If we are going to break the no DH policy lets do it with a far better player than this

Too late, it was broken when we recruited Matterson

I raise you BJ Leilua


Matterson was first

packer was prior to them both

 

[tigertye]

If Manly want Aloiai for 2021 I’d be completely disregarding a player trade and request they also take one of Packer, Mbye or Reynolds at full freight. Take it or leave it.

Clears some of our dead wood, and gives us another roster spot and plenty of cap space.

 

[Tiger5150]

If Manly want Aloiai for 2021 I’d be completely disregarding a player trade and request they also take one of Packer, Mbye or Reynolds at full freight. Take it or leave it.

Clears some of our dead wood, and gives us another roster spot and plenty of cap space.

Why would they do that and why would they have a spare roster slot?

 

[hank37w]

If Manly want Aloiai for 2021 I’d be completely disregarding a player trade and request they also take one of Packer, Mbye or Reynolds at full freight. Take it or leave it.

Clears some of our dead wood, and gives us another roster spot and plenty of cap space.

Has anyone asked Packer, Mbye or Reynolds if they want to go to Manly?