Anasta owed money
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AmericanHistoryX
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pay the man - a deal is a deal
Cosimo_Zaretti
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@AmericanHistoryX said:
Is it that simple if it's TPA money? Clubs can pay players beyond the cap by running the transaction through a sponsor's account. If Wests Tigers were to pay out the debt themselves, they be in violation of the 2014 salary cap?
@AmericanHistoryX said:
If the club pays him when its a TPA dispute, we would be in direct violation of the salary cap and opening ourselves to massive penalties.
The NRL would surely have a major bug up its arse if we didn't pay an agreed contract amount to a player given they are topping up a few mill to the club.
Yet Braith claims we have dudded him of significant dollars.
I'd love to know the outcome of this, because either the club should be shamed into action for not following through or Braith should be hung from the highest tree for being a twat.
I don't know an exceptional amount about player contracts or salary caps. So I ask this out of curiosity thanks to a 6 pack of beer.
If a player is owed money for say a one year contract. Would that money technically not need to be paid until the end of the actual year?
Are players paid weekly, fortnightly, annually with their salary or does it vary according to their contract?
In Braiths case for example he's saying he's owed money. If he was due to complete his services/contract at the end of 2014, would his pay be expected to be in by the end of 2014? If that's the case, yes he'd be owed money, but it wouldn't actually be due until say December 31?
Someone a little more in the know about this stuff might be able to inform me a little on this. Or I may just need to go to bed and apologize for not making any sense due to a few after work schooies in the morning!!!
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If a player is owed money for say a one year contract. Would that money technically not need to be paid until the end of the actual year?
Are players paid weekly, fortnightly, annually with their salary or does it vary according to their contract?
In Braiths case for example he's saying he's owed money. If he was due to complete his services/contract at the end of 2014, would his pay be expected to be in by the end of 2014? If that's the case, yes he'd be owed money, but it wouldn't actually be due until say December 31?
Someone a little more in the know about this stuff might be able to inform me a little on this. Or I may just need to go to bed and apologize for not making any sense due to a few after work schooies in the morning!!!
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My apologies if this has been posted previously: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/braith-anasta-says-hes-still-owed-money-by-wests-tigers-20141119-11q1i8.html
Third paragraph says Anasta is owed by two, third party agreements. That does not equate directly to being owed by Wests Tigers. Looks like he needs to follow this up with his manager. I looked this up because, again, I noted there has been no media feeding frenzy about it. Probably because it's not news.
Third paragraph says Anasta is owed by two, third party agreements. That does not equate directly to being owed by Wests Tigers. Looks like he needs to follow this up with his manager. I looked this up because, again, I noted there has been no media feeding frenzy about it. Probably because it's not news.
glebe_tiger
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@goldcoast tiger said:
i wasn't sure i mentioned anything about liking the guy to make payment, but if it was 'found to be true' about him leaking much info during the robbiegate saga then a.) any monies owed to him directly by the club should be held as long as possible, i'd make him sweat hard for it, and b.) any third party money can be chased by his manager. club's have no obligation for payment of third party payments, i think they are able to set the deals/avenues up but are not obliged to make them pay…unless someone can clarify me on this.
Cosimo_Zaretti
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So does this work as a hypothetical worst case scenario?
At the end of 2012, the Tigers are deperate to solve their halves crisis. With Moses and Brooks still in the pipeline and Moltzen making only occasional appearances, Humpty and co sign the only cheap half on the market who anyone's heard of. Despite having moved into the back row at Easts and playing just one career came at halfback, Braith Anasta is touted as the number 7 to pair with Benji Marshall.
With the Tigers already paying a fair chunk of their cap space for Moltzen and Lawrence going to physio, Gibbs and Fifita to playing for Cronulla and Marshall furthering his media career, the club doesn't really have the budget for a former test half, even a well used example. So the Tigers offer Anasta money in excess of the cap, knowing that with big name sponsors like Hyundai, they're good for the money.
Fast forward a year and a half and the struggling Tigers can't buy a jersey sponsor anyone's heard of. Instead of Hino trucks and Hyundai cars, we're sponsored by a bin rental company. It's JFTA petrochemical and Wokka Noodles all over again. There's no cash in the works to pad out the TPA portion of player contracts and the Tigers are caught in the middle.
So what the Tigers are left with is a situation where they have no sponsor to honour agreements they made on the expectation of TPA money, they can't afford to meet their obligations and even if they could they'd be in violation of the cap. Anasta isn't the only player affected, and Blair has quit with money owing.
On past form, is it possible that the Tigers screwed it up that badly, and would Mayer tell the truth if they had?
At the end of 2012, the Tigers are deperate to solve their halves crisis. With Moses and Brooks still in the pipeline and Moltzen making only occasional appearances, Humpty and co sign the only cheap half on the market who anyone's heard of. Despite having moved into the back row at Easts and playing just one career came at halfback, Braith Anasta is touted as the number 7 to pair with Benji Marshall.
With the Tigers already paying a fair chunk of their cap space for Moltzen and Lawrence going to physio, Gibbs and Fifita to playing for Cronulla and Marshall furthering his media career, the club doesn't really have the budget for a former test half, even a well used example. So the Tigers offer Anasta money in excess of the cap, knowing that with big name sponsors like Hyundai, they're good for the money.
Fast forward a year and a half and the struggling Tigers can't buy a jersey sponsor anyone's heard of. Instead of Hino trucks and Hyundai cars, we're sponsored by a bin rental company. It's JFTA petrochemical and Wokka Noodles all over again. There's no cash in the works to pad out the TPA portion of player contracts and the Tigers are caught in the middle.
So what the Tigers are left with is a situation where they have no sponsor to honour agreements they made on the expectation of TPA money, they can't afford to meet their obligations and even if they could they'd be in violation of the cap. Anasta isn't the only player affected, and Blair has quit with money owing.
On past form, is it possible that the Tigers screwed it up that badly, and would Mayer tell the truth if they had?
stevetiger
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@Cosimo_Zaretti said:
I don't think so. 3rd party sponsors are not the Tigers and the Tigers should not be honoring payments from 3rd party sponsors. That would kill our cap.
Cosimo_Zaretti
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@stevetiger said:
Do you know if a player is still locked into a playing contract if the TPA agreement bound to it is not honoured?
stevetiger
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@Cosimo_Zaretti said:
I don't know however I would think that they are. They have a deal with the club to play for a certain contract. The 3rd party agreement is not part of that deal.
@Cosimo_Zaretti said:
Over the years there have been players at clubs who have left contracts early because 3rd party deals fell through. Whether that is because the clubs and player mutually agreed or because the players contract stipulated they could break if a TPA stopped, I'm not sure.
