Anasta stats 2014 rd 1-7

I've long been on the record as a non Anasta supporter. I can't see that he offers much in attack and I'm concerned about his errors. I don't believe he offers creativity or direction but defensively he does his job. What Anasta does offer, is an experienced head and steadying influence for Brooks. He's a mentor. This gives Brooks time and room to develop his own leadership skills and creativity in the first grade. Apparently Brooks has been quoted as saying he appreciates that, and obviously Potter can see a continuing need for it. My take is, Potter is settling Brooks into the first grade using Anasta as on-field mentor. We're winning games! Maybe it's softly softly catchy monkey.

In the Eels game it was clear that Austin had an immediate influence on creativity and direction. He can't be denied for much longer.
 
Anasta is in the team purely for his experience to ease pressure off brooks.

This isn't statistically to ease pressure off him as I believe potter would probably want brooks to be the dominant half on paper.

I assume Anastas main role is to bark orders at the team …structure them around the park ... And jump in when brooks may become overwhelmed or flustered (it is only his first season).

While brooks is learning and developing as a first grader this will allow him to focus on his own game and build on his leadership skills over time.
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Although watching Austin play the past few weeks and the way he barks the team around...especially how he set up the plays from hooker leading to the field goal against parra (he should recieve just as much credit as brooks for that match winner )

He could easily assume that role Anastas Is playing

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Where's the stat for how many minutes a game Anasta is talking to Brooks? Round 6, Anasta had 0 minutes in Brooks' ear and it showed, he looked lost a lot of the time. Braith may not be setting up all our tries etc, but he is guiding Brooks around the park and doing exactly what he's there for - to mentor him.
 
This thread is fundamentally flawed.

You CAN'T measure the effectiveness of a half-5/8 by counting their hitups or tackles!!! Pointless. It's not their job to make metres!! Although they should attack the line a few times each match.

Halves can only be measured in tries and try assists (obviously - and yes he should have more assists), but also total kicks, kick metres, line break assists etc. Those are the only stats that count for halves.

Most of what Braith offers isn't measurable in any case. How do you measure his ability to direct others where to go, to give them a rev up or some calming words at the right moment when their heads are dropping or are getting carried away, to organise a team around the park, to provide leadership and options for Brooks so that our young halfback doesn't feel the weight of the entire pack is on his shoulders..? etc. You can't measure that stuff.

Does he do all of the above to a high level? Yes and no. He's not playing at his best and should be providing better last tackle options, but he is a leader and he is helping in the halves. Yes Austin provides more spark and should be moving towards the starting 5/8 spot in the near future but we need leaders on the field and Braith is one of out best at that. Especially with Robbie injured.
 
@Balmain Boy said:
This thread is fundamentally flawed.

You CAN'T measure the effectiveness of a half-5/8 by counting their hitups or tackles!!! Pointless. It's not their job to make metres!! Although they should attack the line a few times each match.

Halves can only be measured in tries and try assists (obviously - and yes he should have more assists), but also total kicks, kick metres, line break assists etc. Those are the only stats that count for halves.

Most of what Braith offers isn't measurable in any case. How do you measure his ability to direct others where to go, to give them a rev up or some calming words at the right moment when their heads are dropping or are getting carried away, to organise a team around the park, to provide leadership and options for Brooks so that our young halfback doesn't feel the weight of the entire pack is on his shoulders..? etc. You can't measure that stuff.

Does he do all of the above to a high level? Yes and no. He's not playing at his best and should be providing better last tackle options, but he is a leader and he is helping in the halves. Yes Austin provides more spark and should be moving towards the starting 5/8 spot in the near future but we need leaders on the field and Braith is one of out best at that. Especially with Robbie injured.

I think you measure him by his absence.

He played the Manly game, we won well without Teddy.
He didn't play Cowboys, we won fairly safely without Farah or Teddy.
He played against Parra, we snuck home without Farah, Teddy, Fults, Gavet.

Overall I have to concede I do not see a dramatic improvement without Anasta, but I do see good things with Anasta and Austin _both_ on.
 
Points in Austin's favour
Creativity.
Good ball runner.
Likely to be first choice 5/8 at the start of next season - worth working on combinations.

Points in Anasta's favour
Is old. Sorry, I mean "provides veteran leadership".
Apparently being old, sorry, his "experience" stops Farah trying to take over. In a way which having a 5/8 who was, say, actually good at playing would not achieve.
Can kick a football a long way upwards.
 
Robbie Farah spoke really highly of him on NRL 360 tonight. Said that off the field he has made his job as captain a hell of a lot easier this year. Said the Tigers new leadership group has helped drive a new culture at the club.

It wasn't a throw away line, it was genuine high praise. I still would like to see him play a lot better individually. However it seems his leadership qualities have been extremely valuable.

He is the sort of person we should be looking at re-signing as a coach maybe for the 20s next season. I have always given him praise for his professionalism and leadership. If he is influcing these young guys off the field be could be well worth staying, just not in a playing capacity.
 
@Eddie said:
Robbie Farah spoke really highly of him on NRL 360 tonight. Said that off the field he has made his job as captain a hell of a lot easier this year. Said the Tigers new leadership group has helped drive a new culture at the club.

It wasn't a throw away line, it was genuine high praise. I still would like to see him play a lot better individually. However it seems his leadership qualities have been extremely valuable.

He is the sort of person we should be looking at re-signing as a coach maybe for the 20s next season. I have always given him praise for his professionalism and leadership. If he is influcing these young guys off the field be could be well worth staying, just not in a playing capacity.

Probably keep him in a mentoring role for Brooks like Johns does with other players instead of a coaching role
 
I couldn't possibly compare Anasta to Johns. Johns wasn't a great leader, but he had an exceptional footy brain. He is a halfback specialist. I could see Ananta playing a wider ranging role (if he is interested) in perhaps coaching or mentoring. However he is good in the media (one of the few who is comfortable and insightful) so Fox will snap him up full time possibly.
 
Fantasy footy and the abundance of stats has led to people judging performance by stats.

Stats only tell part of the story and in some case are misleading.

Ill give an example of a super play, that is insignificant on the stats.

Rowes very first touch in NRL against the cowboys, he reads Thurston well, covers some distance to be in a position to half volley a kick takes it a metre from the line and gets tackle about 3 out. This is a super play, prevents an opportunity for the try and avoids the drop out. On the stats sheet, 1 run 2 metres.

Tells nothing of the story. It is not flashy, but it is super important. It is the sort of play tht a more dynamic player such Tim Simona or Noffa, who is not naturally a fullback is unlikely to make.

Anasta is doing a reasonable job and has a calm head and experience of near on 300 games, given the youth of the side, this is important.
 
agreed Goose… I highly doubt any NRL Club is using many stats from NRL.Com or the DT.

A lot of Stats we see don't tell you if a Carry was Effective or Ineffective. We don't read about support or decoys; Catches under Pressure etc etc....

Missed Tackles is another which is widely confusing and doesn't always tell the truth... A defender who completely miss reads the play and goes in the other direction doesn't get a missed tackle recorded. The poor bloke who is covering his mis-read and doesn't get a good contact records the missed tackle. Hardly Fare!

The thing which is really misunderstood about stats, is most NRL Coaches aren't looking at what Player X did, they are mainly looking at what Player X didn't do... Especially the Opposition Coaches!
 
I understand the importance of experience/ guidance on the field . Anasta has been good this year.
However coming into round 8 our balance has shifted due to injuries.
If attacking players like Farah, Teddy, Sironen were playing then Anasta would also be a good fit at 5/8.
Our attack wasn't great against Parra. They should have beaten us. We need another attacking option atm. Maybe Austin to 5/8 Anasta to the bench.
 
Is Anasta to bench and Austin to 5/8 an option? He can still help from the sideline and come on when Potter sees fit.
Is Anasta an option AT ALL to play 9? Austin/Brooks looks good. Teddy/Austin/Brooks/Farrah as spine looks just amazing.
 
@Tigerdon said:
I understand the importance of experience/ guidance on the field . Anasta has been good this year.
However coming into round 8 our balance has shifted due to injuries.
If attacking players like Farah, Teddy, Sironen were playing then Anasta would also be a good fit at 5/8.
Our attack wasn't great against Parra. They should have beaten us. We need another attacking option atm. Maybe Austin to 5/8 Anasta to the bench.

Going by Brooks last 2 games alone, he has not offered anything in terms of attacking options. 5th tackle options have been abysmal. Anasta is not an option if Brooks has the same game. If that persists, which is likely until as some here say he will shine later in the year, then Austin needs to be an attacking option and he cant do it at 9 as affective as he could in the 6.

With all the attacking player injuries, we have to have the Brooks people are hoping for, now, or Austin to cover poor attacking options as we saw in the cowboys game.
 

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