Why would Cronulla want another forward? They have Gallen, Douglas, Tupou, and maybe Snowden if he stays put. It's the backline where they'd need to spend some cash. Anyway I'll worry about this when there is something a bit more concrete
tigerbenji
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Isaw that in the tele & thought of both the fifita brothers & if they want to go & chase the dollars why spend overs to keep them. If they want to go let them go & keep woods & bmm.
happy_tiger
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@Yossarian said:
Totally agree they need a experienced quality half or five eight to guide the team around
MacDougall
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@southerntiger said:
No and I do think Fifita has potential but I see more potential in the others and I don't have unrealistic expectations about keeping them all. It's also not about "letting them go". If the Sharks offer Fifita 200K/year right now on a two/three year deal, I'd be disappointed if the Tigers decided he was worth that and matched it, because he simply is not and I can't see the Sharks offering much less than that either. As for Gibbs, I can't see any clubs offering Gibbs more than the Tigers are already paying him so there is no chance of him leaving until his contract is up, which is quite a while away. If the Sharks have $350,000 though I'm guessing they're gonna take aim at both Fifita and Woods. I would be willing to match an offer on Woods at this stage for a few reasons. Namely, he isn't going to have any absurd deals thrown at him because he doesn't have the same hype/experience that Fifita has. Sharks will probably offer him something like $130,000 for one year with an option. I would happily match that. Fifita at his career development will likely get offered $200,000 over two, which I'd be remiss to part with.
And yes, Moltzen is off contract at the end of this year I believe. I would imagine that the Sharks would have much greater interest in someone like him than Fifita.
Tiger_Watto
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I wouldnt blame or begrudge Fifita for going to the Sharks… The guy wants a gig as a starting Prop and wont get that at the Tigers in the next 18 month unless in the case of injury.
While I'd love to see him stay, we cant keep them all!!!
While I'd love to see him stay, we cant keep them all!!!
@alexaki said:
And the reality is, the club has done a remarkable job ensuring the core of this team will be under contract for a very long time.
Having Farah, Marshall, Lawrence, etc (plus the hopeful long term inclusion of Adam Blair, one of the best forwards in the game) in the same squad for the next few seasons means that even if we lose a few players, as all teams inevitably do, the club will remain competitive.
Bazzinator
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of course they were going to be targets their football manager use to be tigers u 20's football manager and would of seen the potential of the likes of fifita and woods. losing snowden they need someone up front but i wouldnt be paying 350 on 1 maybe get 2 experience and one youth or the other way round
Sharks have openly spoken about bolstering their Halves and backs with the funds they have available. they have one of the stronger Fwd packs on paper at least.
I assuming Tim Smith and Scott Porter will be let go so McD may be onto something here. I have no doubt there would be some serious interest out there for Moltz.
I assuming Tim Smith and Scott Porter will be let go so McD may be onto something here. I have no doubt there would be some serious interest out there for Moltz.
Bazzinator
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moltzens contract expires in 2012 so unless he as a get out clause unlikely ull think
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=973251
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=973251
westTAHger
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I was under impression that the sharks were having financial troubles.
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can't blame a team for making enquiries or being aggressive in player market.
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can't blame a team for making enquiries or being aggressive in player market.
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If in a few years we look like this:
8\. Blair
10\. Galloway
11\. Dwyer
12\. Ellis
13\. Heighington
14\. Gibbs
15\. Fulton
16\. Woods/Fifita/Murdoch/Shirnack/
17\. *utility*
even guys like Begovich, Roqica, Davidson
we are sitting very nicely and its unrealistic to thank that we will keep all of them. If we dont sign Blair its either more money to look towards another prop or retain another.
8\. Blair
10\. Galloway
11\. Dwyer
12\. Ellis
13\. Heighington
14\. Gibbs
15\. Fulton
16\. Woods/Fifita/Murdoch/Shirnack/
17\. *utility*
even guys like Begovich, Roqica, Davidson
we are sitting very nicely and its unrealistic to thank that we will keep all of them. If we dont sign Blair its either more money to look towards another prop or retain another.
@tigerdre said:
Very much so, he is full of crap most of the time but being a Sharks supporter, I imagine he would have very close ties within that club and would be very cosy with Flanagan and would definitely have the scoop. Even a broken clock is right twice a day Tigerdre :wink:
I merely posted this to be taken on what it is: an expression of interest by the Sharks in one or more of our players and generate a little interest.
It seems that it may not eventuate anyhow as they reckon nowden may not return to the Knights as they would probably renegotiate his salary in keeping with Bennett's methods of spreading the salary cap across a whole side.
you_know_who
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In the telegraph today it said that Bennett has the power to pu the cibosh on the deal between Snowden and the Knights as he doenst believe that front rowers are worthy of over 300k a year, thats why he got rid of lazarus, civoneciva, gee and ryles from his previous clubs
I'd hate to see Fifita go and I think he'd be stupid to take an offer from a failure of a club like the sharks.
Is all that $$ worth being apart of such a weak club?
(Imo they're weak)
And as mentioned, they should be spending to strength their back line.
Noobs.
Is all that $$ worth being apart of such a weak club?
(Imo they're weak)
And as mentioned, they should be spending to strength their back line.
Noobs.
Chadman_s_Ghost
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Can't keep them all. Especially if we are, indeed, signing the likes of Blair away from other teams. Roster spots soon dry up.
If you feel sad to lose Fifita- how do Storm fans feel about losing Blair? Broncos fans when Boyd left for the Dragons? Bulldogs fans now that Idris is a Titan?
It's part of the game now- when you have specific roster numbers, and a salary cap, you lose players to other teams willing to pay them that bit more.
So long as the Tigers don't lose the Benji's, Lawrence's, Farah's & Ellis'- they can overcome most other losses.
One down side to producing so many promising youngsters is that you see them against you in a few years time!!
If you feel sad to lose Fifita- how do Storm fans feel about losing Blair? Broncos fans when Boyd left for the Dragons? Bulldogs fans now that Idris is a Titan?
It's part of the game now- when you have specific roster numbers, and a salary cap, you lose players to other teams willing to pay them that bit more.
So long as the Tigers don't lose the Benji's, Lawrence's, Farah's & Ellis'- they can overcome most other losses.
One down side to producing so many promising youngsters is that you see them against you in a few years time!!
clontarfkid
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I applaud Bennett and Bellamys philosophy that you dont want to have too much $$$ invested in too many individual forwards …the key is to ensure you have sufficient power & go-forward to create a platform for the 1,6,7 & 9 playmakers plus one or two outstanding backs who can create breaks.Thats how they work it.
Thats why I wouldnt sign Blair on megabucks on top of Ellis(who is worth every cent BTW),but rather have a bunch of largish up & comers like Fifita,Woods & co. supporting the experienced forwards.This strategy means as soon as the market wants to pay top $$$ for individual forwards like Cross/White/ Blair/Jeremy Smith/Costigan etc u have to let them go...& that mite eventualy happen to our young gun forwards too.Gotta keep making more as they're relatively easier to replace than genuine playmakers where the big $$ should be directed.
As for Moltzen,even tho he has a contract for 2012 he's gotta perform this year or he'll be squeezed out by Lui and Miller,like Collis was.
Thats why I wouldnt sign Blair on megabucks on top of Ellis(who is worth every cent BTW),but rather have a bunch of largish up & comers like Fifita,Woods & co. supporting the experienced forwards.This strategy means as soon as the market wants to pay top $$$ for individual forwards like Cross/White/ Blair/Jeremy Smith/Costigan etc u have to let them go...& that mite eventualy happen to our young gun forwards too.Gotta keep making more as they're relatively easier to replace than genuine playmakers where the big $$ should be directed.
As for Moltzen,even tho he has a contract for 2012 he's gotta perform this year or he'll be squeezed out by Lui and Miller,like Collis was.
@Chadman's Ghost said:
Fair points CG, but its all part of the game where the fans form attachments to players for whatever reason.
I'd be upset if Benji, Heighington or Farah ever left for another club. That said, I'm not one of the vindictive fans who begrudge a player for leaving for better opportunities.
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