851
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@alex said:
I think you are right,Folksey will help them develop better than anyone at the club.
I think you are right,Folksey will help them develop better than anyone at the club.
joe_s_magpies
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I think Andrew has a big future. I saw him play on many occasions and I was mighty impressed. He scored about 14 tries which is unheard of for a prop. A definite First grader.
Tiger_Tomato
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I don't think we should get to carried away with either of them just yet. They are both very young and it is rare to see a front rower excell straight out of the 20s comp. Look at all of the best front rowers in the comp, with the exception of hannant, most are all late 20s or 30s. (Petero, Price, Fui, Bailey, Lima, Cayless)
I agree in terms of keeping them and that they will both play 1st grade, but maybe not just yet. Alot of young bulls have been bashed too early in there careers and have never recovered. It has taken Sauce a good 4 years to recover from what hoppa did to him. Blooded to early and they become a target by the old hardnuts. Sheens will hold him back.
I agree in terms of keeping them and that they will both play 1st grade, but maybe not just yet. Alot of young bulls have been bashed too early in there careers and have never recovered. It has taken Sauce a good 4 years to recover from what hoppa did to him. Blooded to early and they become a target by the old hardnuts. Sheens will hold him back.
Understand what's been said, tiger_tomato, but the game is changing.
EG Sam Burgess - sure, I know unproven here yet, but already a force in ESL, as a young prop.
Locally, Sauce is not the only young tiro to face it early.
Luke Douglas is 23, already played close to 100 games first grade, having first played top grade when he was 20.
The Mannah boys are firing.
And there's more through the NRL, across the board.
In fact, any player given top grade time, managed and measured correctly by astute coaches, is up to it, when opportunity calls - if good enough.
Our game and yesterday's thinking is fast changing.
EG Sam Burgess - sure, I know unproven here yet, but already a force in ESL, as a young prop.
Locally, Sauce is not the only young tiro to face it early.
Luke Douglas is 23, already played close to 100 games first grade, having first played top grade when he was 20.
The Mannah boys are firing.
And there's more through the NRL, across the board.
In fact, any player given top grade time, managed and measured correctly by astute coaches, is up to it, when opportunity calls - if good enough.
Our game and yesterday's thinking is fast changing.
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Guest
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Fitness is the key for these boys. It's a big step up to go from the front row in under 20's to FG. Simon Dwyer is an 80 minute player in the 20's yet we only saw him get 20 minutes in FG to ease him in. An off-season under Folkesy will help all of the Tigers, particularly the forwards I think. I'd still start both brothers in State Cup, and once their match fitness is up, and provided they are trampling the opposition, then look at starting them off the bench if it's warranted.
MacDougall
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@tiger_one said:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but John Mannah has lymphoma.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,25965797-5018866,00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Tiger_Tomato
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I was just saying not to expect to much from them to start off with. And, i admit, the risk factor i was talking about previously may not be as relevant in todays game. There are not to many players anymore who go out there to break someones jaw, the penalty is too severe. He'll get his shot, and i hope he does well!
AmericanHistoryX
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fuggedoubidit - bring on andrew fifita - his brother aint too far behind.
@MacDougall said:
Jon is doing well - Still undergoing treatment. Heres Hoping he gets on the field soon.
This guy is somehing else. he makes it all look effortless
I would like to see at the tigers as he will play Origin for sure….
PS - We digress
citizen_cub
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@Balmain Tiger said:
for first grade?
are you kidding dude?
he is a damaging ball running foward, but he needs to drop some pounds first
we've got Galloway and Cayless mate
Maybe when Cayless retires
Benji training stoush
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* By James Hooper
* From: The Sunday Telegraph
* January 31, 2010 12:01AM
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Fiery training … Benji Marshall copped some friendly fire at training. Source: The Daily Telegraph
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WESTS Tigers superstar Benji Marshall almost came to blows with a team-mate at training yesterday as tempers flared in a heated opposed session at Concord Oval.
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Marshall and 114kg rookie prop Andrew Fifita had to be separated by forward Chris Heighington during a tense face-off.
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The problems came after Fifita put a shoulder shot on Marshall, who was clearly upset by the treatment from a player trying to make his mark at the club.
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Fifita, who with identical twin brother David played in the Toyota Cup last year, confirmed to The Sunday Telegraph that Marshall had taken offence at the tackle.
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But Fifita, the nephew of St George's 1980s prop John Fifita, stressed there was no malice intended in the tackle. The 20-year-old said the hit was just a rookie prop trying to impress the coaching staff.
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"Benji was going off and we just had a little push and shove and that ... but that happens you know," Fifita said. "I'm just a kid learning the game. I can't wait to get a run in the first trial and try to impress the right judges and go from there. It's unreal."
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Wests Tigers captain Robbie Farah missed the flare-up, but he was sporting a cut in the corner of his right eye and a swollen left hand after the heavy training session.
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There is no suggestion the Tigers hooker was involved in the incident, but the Kangaroos tourist confirmed the Tigers had stepped up the intensity in the past month.
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"I didn't see anything like that (the Marshall showdown), but I can tell you we've been ripping in, mouthguards and all," Farah said.
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"It's a good thing to see at this time of the year. Now is the time of year when you do all the hard work to prepare for the season ahead."
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Fifita made a name for himself monstering opponents in the Toyota Cup and was a key member of the Tigers side beaten 24-22 by Melbourne in the grand final.
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Last October, both Andrew Johns and Wendell Sailor labelled the front-rower, who originally hails from Griffith, as the best player in the decider.
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The rookie prop is set to serve as a back-up for regular props Keith Galloway, Jason Cayless, Bryce Gibbs and Todd Payten.
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Fellow Tigers rookie Robert Louis confirmed Heighington rushed in to stand up for Marshall and cool the situation.
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"Yeah, Fifita got Benji with a pretty good shot and he wasn't too happy about it," Louis said. "Then Heighno (Heighington) came running in to stand up for Benji."
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The flare-up will be welcome news to Tigers fans as the 2005 premiers hope to play their first finals series since the watershed premiership - as long as Marshall doesn't get hurt fighting out of his weight division.
I love it ! Bring on 2010 ! :sunglasses:
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* By James Hooper
* From: The Sunday Telegraph
* January 31, 2010 12:01AM
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Fiery training … Benji Marshall copped some friendly fire at training. Source: The Daily Telegraph
>
WESTS Tigers superstar Benji Marshall almost came to blows with a team-mate at training yesterday as tempers flared in a heated opposed session at Concord Oval.
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Marshall and 114kg rookie prop Andrew Fifita had to be separated by forward Chris Heighington during a tense face-off.
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The problems came after Fifita put a shoulder shot on Marshall, who was clearly upset by the treatment from a player trying to make his mark at the club.
>
Fifita, who with identical twin brother David played in the Toyota Cup last year, confirmed to The Sunday Telegraph that Marshall had taken offence at the tackle.
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But Fifita, the nephew of St George's 1980s prop John Fifita, stressed there was no malice intended in the tackle. The 20-year-old said the hit was just a rookie prop trying to impress the coaching staff.
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"Benji was going off and we just had a little push and shove and that ... but that happens you know," Fifita said. "I'm just a kid learning the game. I can't wait to get a run in the first trial and try to impress the right judges and go from there. It's unreal."
>
Wests Tigers captain Robbie Farah missed the flare-up, but he was sporting a cut in the corner of his right eye and a swollen left hand after the heavy training session.
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There is no suggestion the Tigers hooker was involved in the incident, but the Kangaroos tourist confirmed the Tigers had stepped up the intensity in the past month.
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"I didn't see anything like that (the Marshall showdown), but I can tell you we've been ripping in, mouthguards and all," Farah said.
>
"It's a good thing to see at this time of the year. Now is the time of year when you do all the hard work to prepare for the season ahead."
>
Fifita made a name for himself monstering opponents in the Toyota Cup and was a key member of the Tigers side beaten 24-22 by Melbourne in the grand final.
>
Last October, both Andrew Johns and Wendell Sailor labelled the front-rower, who originally hails from Griffith, as the best player in the decider.
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The rookie prop is set to serve as a back-up for regular props Keith Galloway, Jason Cayless, Bryce Gibbs and Todd Payten.
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Fellow Tigers rookie Robert Louis confirmed Heighington rushed in to stand up for Marshall and cool the situation.
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"Yeah, Fifita got Benji with a pretty good shot and he wasn't too happy about it," Louis said. "Then Heighno (Heighington) came running in to stand up for Benji."
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The flare-up will be welcome news to Tigers fans as the 2005 premiers hope to play their first finals series since the watershed premiership - as long as Marshall doesn't get hurt fighting out of his weight division.
I love it ! Bring on 2010 ! :sunglasses:
DrewPeacock
Well-known member
Ha ha. What does Benji think he's untouchable? Good stuff needs to be more of it!
westTAHger
Well-known member
this is why it's called training.
getting you prepared to take the big impacts that will happen during the season.
good to see they are already ' fired up' for the season.
getting you prepared to take the big impacts that will happen during the season.
good to see they are already ' fired up' for the season.
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Guest
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Round 1 to Fifita. Sounds like the boys are really putting in at training and Benji will need to watch himself when doing contact work. Buggered if I'd want Fifita flattening me in front of everyone. Thumbs up to the big fella though, he's obviously trying his best to impress the coaching staff.
benjibrotown
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Guess this shows that Andrew isnt going to be intimated by any of the bigger names in the NRL. Hopefully wont be long until hes taking on Petro and Price.
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