Apisai Koroisau #263

[hsvjones]

Why is everyone so hyped? He'll be 30/31 when he plays for us and will happily collect his retirement pay. We will also inevitably lose Simpkin who is a future star and only 20 years old. Can't wait to watch Simpkin kill it for the Dolphins in 3 years while Api (who by all accounts is a poor character) is proving to be another Blair, Tamou, Packer, Mbye

Why is everyone so hyped? He'll be 30/31 when he plays for us and will happily collect his retirement pay. We will also inevitably lose Simpkin who is a future star and only 20 years old. Can't wait to watch Simpkin kill it for the Dolphins in 3 years while Api (who by all accounts is a poor character) is proving to be another Blair, Tamou, Packer, Mbye

Because he brings the main thing we need for all these young players.... Experience
Hooker is one of the main positions in the team and he is the current SOO player so picking him up for 2 years at 650k is a fantastic deal for a Team that has not made the finals for 10 years and has had trouble attracting players.

 

[DGilly]

Why is everyone so hyped? He'll be 30/31 when he plays for us and will happily collect his retirement pay. We will also inevitably lose Simpkin who is a future star and only 20 years old. Can't wait to watch Simpkin kill it for the Dolphins in 3 years while Api (who by all accounts is a poor character) is proving to be another Blair, Tamou, Packer, Mbye

Cornerstone of Panthers going from contenders to the real deal. For years they were going on 5th-8th and lacked the final ingredient to go a step further. A good hooker in my opinion has been the difference maker along with other factors albeit.

2 time GF winner, played Origin this year.

Koro is a winner. Simpkin/Rua will still be early 20s at the conclusion of Koro’s deal.

Grant and Starling are both 23 and still transitioning to full time roles.

Best we can hope for is that Simpkin is fine with playing 20mins per game for the next 3-4 years

Maybe he plays more especially with the use of a hooker as a lock at the back end of halves. Api could be the one who’s playing 20 in 2024 and the club decides not to take up the option in 2025.

Yeah perhaps he leapfrogs Api in a couple of years. The question is what do we do with Liddle. Player swap with the Eels?

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

Why is everyone so hyped? He'll be 30/31 when he plays for us and will happily collect his retirement pay. We will also inevitably lose Simpkin who is a future star and only 20 years old. Can't wait to watch Simpkin kill it for the Dolphins in 3 years while Api (who by all accounts is a poor character) is proving to be another Blair, Tamou, Packer, Mbye

Cornerstone of Panthers going from contenders to the real deal. For years they were going on 5th-8th and lacked the final ingredient to go a step further. A good hooker in my opinion has been the difference maker along with other factors albeit.

2 time GF winner, played Origin this year.

Koro is a winner. Simpkin/Rua will still be early 20s at the conclusion of Koro’s deal.

Grant and Starling are both 23 and still transitioning to full time roles.

Best we can hope for is that Simpkin is fine with playing 20mins per game for the next 3-4 years

Maybe he plays more especially with the use of a hooker as a lock at the back end of halves. Api could be the one who’s playing 20 in 2024 and the club decides not to take up the option in 2025.

Yeah perhaps he leapfrogs Api in a couple of years. The question is what do we do with Liddle. Player swap with the Eels?

He plays next year and is free to take up an earlier deal in 2023. Or maybe something in 2022 changes the situation. Let’s see what the season brings

 

[barnzee]

Simpkln will be gone mate

Don’t think so mate Simpkin is still learning the ropes of anyone will be let go its Liddle the club still sees Simpkin as the next big one and Api was signed to help Simpkin as well as the team I don’t think we’ll lose Simpkin due to signing Api

We will see mate

 

[Masterton]

The question is what do we do with Liddle. Player swap with the Eels?

We can't afford to let him go yet, and Parra don't want him yet. Let's see in 9 months time.

 

[Shaggytiger1]

Besides Simpkin we have another couple of outstanding young 9s coming through the junior grades. Great to see we have one position covered for the foreseeable future for a change.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Why is everyone so hyped? He'll be 30/31 when he plays for us and will happily collect his retirement pay. We will also inevitably lose Simpkin who is a future star and only 20 years old. Can't wait to watch Simpkin kill it for the Dolphins in 3 years while Api (who by all accounts is a poor character) is proving to be another Blair, Tamou, Packer, Mbye

Cornerstone of Panthers going from contenders to the real deal. For years they were going on 5th-8th and lacked the final ingredient to go a step further. A good hooker in my opinion has been the difference maker along with other factors albeit.

2 time GF winner, played Origin this year.

Koro is a winner. Simpkin/Rua will still be early 20s at the conclusion of Koro’s deal.

Grant and Starling are both 23 and still transitioning to full time roles.

Best we can hope for is that Simpkin is fine with playing 20mins per game for the next 3-4 years

Maybe he plays more especially with the use of a hooker as a lock at the back end of halves. Api could be the one who’s playing 20 in 2024 and the club decides not to take up the option in 2025.

I took it as both parties sharing the ability to choose to take up such option for 2025, rather than that of one choosing not to take the opportunity and thus ending the deal.

I may be wrong, though I expect that it was used as a carrot for an aging player’s potential last contract. If we can nab him early with some extra dollars I would hope that the last year could be renegotiated to performance based.

Either way, much happier with Api than Hodgson.

 

[Tigerlily]

Why is everyone so hyped? He'll be 30/31 when he plays for us and will happily collect his retirement pay. We will also inevitably lose Simpkin who is a future star and only 20 years old. Can't wait to watch Simpkin kill it for the Dolphins in 3 years while Api (who by all accounts is a poor character) is proving to be another Blair, Tamou, Packer, Mbye


Do you know which team we support?

Just enjoy the fact that for once the WTs are finally making some decisive moves in the player market…

And if you have actually followed Api’s career you’ll find his a much better player now!, then at any other point in his career, so, who cares how old he is?…Age is just a number.

 

[BAGNF05]

Why is everyone so hyped? He'll be 30/31 when he plays for us and will happily collect his retirement pay. We will also inevitably lose Simpkin who is a future star and only 20 years old. Can't wait to watch Simpkin kill it for the Dolphins in 3 years while Api (who by all accounts is a poor character) is proving to be another Blair, Tamou, Packer, Mbye

Cornerstone of Panthers going from contenders to the real deal. For years they were going on 5th-8th and lacked the final ingredient to go a step further. A good hooker in my opinion has been the difference maker along with other factors albeit.

2 time GF winner, played Origin this year.

Koro is a winner. Simpkin/Rua will still be early 20s at the conclusion of Koro’s deal.

Grant and Starling are both 23 and still transitioning to full time roles.

Best we can hope for is that Simpkin is fine with playing 20mins per game for the next 3-4 years

Maybe he plays more especially with the use of a hooker as a lock at the back end of halves. Api could be the one who’s playing 20 in 2024 and the club decides not to take up the option in 2025.

Simpkin could transition into a lock with the new rules. Looks plenty tough.

 

[rustycage]

Why is everyone so hyped? He'll be 30/31 when he plays for us and will happily collect his retirement pay. We will also inevitably lose Simpkin who is a future star and only 20 years old. Can't wait to watch Simpkin kill it for the Dolphins in 3 years while Api (who by all accounts is a poor character) is proving to be another Blair, Tamou, Packer, Mbye

Interesting take on things. I guess time will tell how things play out. I can also see Simpkin moving on. Or at least fielding offers in the not too distant future.

 

[TigerWest]

Liddle, lol....

Old news.

Api 🐯🐯

We need a better WT emoji, don’t we.😂

 

[TigerWest]

Why is everyone so hyped? He'll be 30/31 when he plays for us and will happily collect his retirement pay. We will also inevitably lose Simpkin who is a future star and only 20 years old. Can't wait to watch Simpkin kill it for the Dolphins in 3 years while Api (who by all accounts is a poor character) is proving to be another Blair, Tamou, Packer, Mbye

Cornerstone of Panthers going from contenders to the real deal. For years they were going on 5th-8th and lacked the final ingredient to go a step further. A good hooker in my opinion has been the difference maker along with other factors albeit.

2 time GF winner, played Origin this year.

Koro is a winner. Simpkin/Rua will still be early 20s at the conclusion of Koro’s deal.

Grant and Starling are both 23 and still transitioning to full time roles.

Best we can hope for is that Simpkin is fine with playing 20mins per game for the next 3-4 years

He may not get that much, he is still learning his game and as I and multiple posters have said, he is under contract, so it doesn’t really matter?

 

[Telltails]

Simpkin is long term. Not close to being ready for the demands of DH in FG. Api K is the perfect signing to transition him through.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Some people need a reality check
The fact we argue over who is better Liddle/Simpkin shows how important Api signing is.

Liddle is NRL standard but not for 80mins
Simpkin you can clearly see can become an NRL player but needs a few good years before it happens.

Everyone complained about ball service and poor decisions and not playing 80mins let alone 60mins - Api solves that.

If we didn’t sign Api then we are stuck with potential one day players which will never happen and is the normal WTs narrative.

Api for 2yrs gives us that quality which is a clear step up but also will switch out as one of the other 2 becomes ready. It gives Simpkin who is clearly the Tigers future time to get ready and someone who knows how to win to show him how game in game out.

Liddle I really like and will have a future in the game but he needs support. Simpkin is just younger and more rounded player - he doesn’t have the speed & game breaker player but offers more robust structure to a style Madge wants us to play.

 

[earl]

Liddle I really like and will have a future in the game but he needs support. Simpkin is just younger and more rounded player - he doesn’t have the speed & game breaker player but offers more robust structure to a style Madge wants us to play.

I'm not sold on Simpkin yet. To me Liddle looks the better player now. It's not a huge difference but Simpkin's hog plays are something that could stop him progressing to anywhere near his potential.

We need a quality hooker and Api provides that. I think you still need 2 hookers but now we should get close to 80 quality minutes from our dummy half. I don't know what we do next year though.

 

[Telltails]

Having a player signed to another club a year in advance is the biggest concern. Api is a dual premier ship winner doesn't need to achieve much more other than setting himself up financially - which he has done with this contract. Liddle and Simpkin on the other hand both still have years ahead of them in the game. They both lift this year and Api has an indifferent year then the signing creates dilemma.

 

[twentyforty]

Can anyone explain what a mutual option is? In the third year I suppose we offer market value if we want to keep Api? And Api has the right to decline? I just don’t understand why it’s referred to as a 3 year deal?

 

[tony soprano]

Hopefully he remains the best 9 in the league over the next 3 years.

 

[Wildcat777]

Besides Simpkin we have another couple of outstanding young 9s coming through the junior grades. Great to see we have one position covered for the foreseeable future for a change.

Totally agree! I think Rua will be a champ and jump both Liddle and Simpkin. If so we are in a great position in terms of Hookers in the next few years. Will be competing with Stilletto’s!

 

[Tiger Tarl]

Can anyone explain what a mutual option is? In the third year I suppose we offer market value if we want to keep Api? And Api has the right to decline? I just don’t understand why it’s referred to as a 3 year deal?

A mutual option is an optional year at the end of a contract. In order for the optional year to become guaranteed, both parties must agree to exercise the option.

If a player enjoys a strong season, the club will often exercise its half of the option in the hope of retaining the player on a one-year deal (same price as the previous year). However, the player may wish to test the open market in search of a larger guarantee on a one-year or a multi-year contract. Likewise, a player whose stock is down might exercise his half of the option rather than test free agency, but the club may no longer view him as worth that salary.