Tiger_Watto
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@tiger05 said:
Awesome… I hope we see this for more than 8 minutes a game, by the time the Finals come around.
With Fe Fi Fo Fitita...Wests Tigers will be 2011 Premiers!!!!
Humpty & Sheens.... You must be idiots :bash
Are Fifita and Gibbs off to the Sharks?
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Awesome… I hope we see this for more than 8 minutes a game, by the time the Finals come around.
With Fe Fi Fo Fitita...Wests Tigers will be 2011 Premiers!!!!
Humpty & Sheens.... You must be idiots :bash
I honestly believe Fifita has been our most consistant Prop ALL YEAR!! Keithy was going great up until Injured. Fifita has some issues, But when he has been great this year and I honestly believe he should've been kept at all costs. I love Brycey… He is ALL HEART, But this can only take you so far, He is small and now he is seems pretty busted, Toddy is out at the end of the year... If fifita is gone, The deal with Blair BETTER BE SIGNED!!
If we miss out on Blair in the final hour (Re: Snowden) and let 2 of our best Props go and Toddy "A Leader of our pack"... We can say goodbye to 2012, 13 & 14... Because it will take years to rebuild the leadership lost from Payto & Gibbs, Even we Have Gaz (who has had less than a productive 11) and a possible Blair... Those 2 boys are the heart and Soul of our Pack.
If we miss out on Blair in the final hour (Re: Snowden) and let 2 of our best Props go and Toddy "A Leader of our pack"... We can say goodbye to 2012, 13 & 14... Because it will take years to rebuild the leadership lost from Payto & Gibbs, Even we Have Gaz (who has had less than a productive 11) and a possible Blair... Those 2 boys are the heart and Soul of our Pack.
happy_tiger
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@batboy said:
Batboy its not Ellis's fault he was injured and the club brought him back early and paid the price and reinjured himself . Now he is 100% fit we will see the real G. Ellis and I beat he has a blinder and gets a four pointer this weekend
@Tiger Watto said:
Geez - Your a smart one aren't you.
Now back to reality - they could have made a mistake. It happens. It they have it appears to be a huge mistake. This is not like losing Collis or McDonnell or Johnny Cronk. This is a young prop who whilst he has gone missing at times and he has had some poor moments he has also had an impact that none of our other props including well seasoned players like Galloway and Gibbs have made.
@happy tiger said:
I agree 100%, but it depends what is written int he individual contracts. I'm not saying this is the rason for everything going on at the minute, but with recent upgrades for established players, potential signings, and some other things it all adds up.
And if we are serious at looking long term, I think the two under 20's props are serious, serious contenders and should be locked in long term if not already. I don't want to lose Fifita, but these other boys are the real deal, Groat and Begovich.
hybrid_tiger
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I still can't believe this is true. I know that Blair will bring some much needed aggression, but Fifita as many have said is mobile, makes an impact and is aggressive. Yes he has deficiencies and still has a long way to go, but the kid is 21 and could be anything.
Not many props play as well as Fifita does at his age. They ususally take a few more years to come along. With a few years to iron out some problems in his game he could be anything.
Not sure if it's worth losing Fifita to sign Blair on 500k. Gibbs also plays a very understated but important role in the team but if we have to lose people, rather Gibbs than Fifita.
Not sure if it's worth losing Fifita to sign Blair on 500k. Gibbs also plays a very understated but important role in the team but if we have to lose people, rather Gibbs than Fifita.
MacDougall
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This is a disaster. Fifita and Gibbs both have their best football ahead of them. GIBBS IS ONLY 26! He's still got toughening up to do! Fifita is 21 and one of the best props running around. The best fend in the game and speed to go with, a great bump, an offload, an uncanny knack of scoring tries, he's a dead set superstar in the making AND HE'S 21! Pay his god damned overs, keep Gibbs and take this ridiculous Blair deal off the table.
Blair is not worth all this trouble. He has been woeful this year so far. A pillow. He will become Antonio Kaufusi mark 2 at the Tigers and ruin us. He's not work $250k a season let alone $500k a season. If that figure is true the Tigers are nuts.
Blair is not worth all this trouble. He has been woeful this year so far. A pillow. He will become Antonio Kaufusi mark 2 at the Tigers and ruin us. He's not work $250k a season let alone $500k a season. If that figure is true the Tigers are nuts.
Tigersmurf
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I also am confused at letting Fifita go to relieve salary cap pressure. What could he possibly be on - $180K?
If he is leaving to chase bigger bucks then so be it. However I agree that if this is the case then we should be signing the lower grade talent to long term deals.
Very sorry to see Andrew go. What about David though? Is it a package deal? The two are close, but I would be very surprised if Andrew left and David stayed.
If he is leaving to chase bigger bucks then so be it. However I agree that if this is the case then we should be signing the lower grade talent to long term deals.
Very sorry to see Andrew go. What about David though? Is it a package deal? The two are close, but I would be very surprised if Andrew left and David stayed.
hybrid_tiger
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@Tigersmurf said:
The word is that the Sharks have offered massive overs ($350K or thereabouts) and we would not match it.
I think Blair will be a great signing, but Fifita is a MASSIVE loss. No doubt about it.
happy_tiger
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Everyone As a few previous threads were saying we were always knew we were going to lose one of our new big three . Woods , BMM or Fifita . Unfortunately that is the nature of the salary cap . If we kept Fifita we probably risked losing both BMM and Woods . Woods will be a far better prop long term than Fifita will be in my opinion . This is the best decision for the club for the future
Tiger_Watto
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@hybrid_tiger said:
And we also have to remember it is Fifita who is shopping himself around, not the Club. The Club wants to keep him, hence why they tried to activate the Contract Extension.
The problem for the club is, do they stop this young kid earning more money???
hybrid_tiger
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@tiger05 said:
Do you honestly believe we will be paying Blair 500K? I think that figure is rubbish, and even if it wasn't, that figure would be boosted by third-party payments.
Even if we did not sign Blair, I doubt we would have matched the Sharks' offer: we don't seem to ever pay overs for players. I love Fifita, but he is not worth that much, that is top dollar, and not what a 21 year old prop should be earning. I'm sure the club wanted to keep him and probably offered him a very good deal, just not what the Sharks have offered.
I can understand the club trying to re-invigorate the place, and while it is VERY disappointing to lose Fifita, I still think Blair is a much needed signing. We need some fresh blood, the players are in their comfort zone, the place needs a shake up. A few people will be unhappy but I applaud the club for making some tough decisions.
Batboy its not Ellis's fault he was injured and the club brought him back early and paid the price and reinjured himself . Now he is 100% fit we will see the real G. Ellis and I beat he has a blinder and gets a four pointer this weekend
Gaz is my favourite player… And WT best player by Miles.... And Miles.... And Miles!!!
I didn't have a dig at him in any way shape or form. I simply stated he has has a less than productive year (Thus far) Regardless of the reasoning... I'd say it is a pretty accurate statement.
Gaz is my favourite player… And WT best player by Miles.... And Miles.... And Miles!!!
I didn't have a dig at him in any way shape or form. I simply stated he has has a less than productive year (Thus far) Regardless of the reasoning... I'd say it is a pretty accurate statement.
No great loss imo Fafita will turn out to be another Daine Laurie, full of raw ability and potential but will go nowhere, i bet in 3 years from now he's not playing NRL. He's too concerned about stopping to fend everyone off than just running, if someone could coach the fend change arm fend out of him he might go ok.
As for Gibbs well it's sad to see him go he's been a great player for this club but it think we've got the best years out of him so from a business pov letting him go is a good move.
As for Gibbs well it's sad to see him go he's been a great player for this club but it think we've got the best years out of him so from a business pov letting him go is a good move.
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Exactly my thoughts hybrid.
Fifita could also become another Anthony Tupou, Colin Best, Dean Collis or Adam Cuthbertson (pre dragons) if he goes to the sharks. The culture over there doesn't seem all that crash hot, and we know he has had his issues in the past. we might see him playing reggies against his brother in 12-18 months if this deal happens - who knows.
Gibbs could also become worse as a penalty magnet - under sheens its something we've seen him improve getting those silly penalties out of the game, but over there i'd predict him becoming a whole lot worse.
And if we play against them - I honestly reckon the Tigers would get under their skin - and Gibbsy would give away a stack to us. He wouldn't be able to help himself…
Just sayin - They may be losses for us, but as stated previously we do have a quality crop coming through. They may end up being liabilities for the sharks.
Gibbs could also become worse as a penalty magnet - under sheens its something we've seen him improve getting those silly penalties out of the game, but over there i'd predict him becoming a whole lot worse.
And if we play against them - I honestly reckon the Tigers would get under their skin - and Gibbsy would give away a stack to us. He wouldn't be able to help himself…
Just sayin - They may be losses for us, but as stated previously we do have a quality crop coming through. They may end up being liabilities for the sharks.
