Are the Wests Tigers Improving? Stats to break it down.

Oldman · May 21, 2024

Tucker said:
It’s hard to compare stats week on week over two seasons due to the inconsistency of variables….different sides, different opposition, injuries to all sides and opponents, where the games were played, weather etc…

I see improvement in attitude in regard to trying to play 80 minutes
I see marginal improvement in defence
I think our attack has gone backwards
I think our discipline has gotten worse
I think our effort plays are possibly better? Maybe…
All in all, just as bad as last year for mine. Our only chance of winning more games is the origin period.

One thing I was pleased to see on the weekend was our outside backs (especially wingers) not rushing up and in , we were actually moving up and sliding.
Even there first try they didn’t run around us it was just a one on one missed tackle winger on winger.
The defence coach has changed the way we defend thank goodness.

Tucker · May 21, 2024

InGalvinWeTrust said:
These are far better stats. Puts in perspective. It wouldn't all be poor discipline that gets us these sinbins. Bias must play a place

Sinbin #1 - Round 2 v Raiders = Stef gave the ref a gobful. Bin warranted? Unsure.
Sinbin #2 - Round 4 v Parramatta = Galvin dangerous contact. Bin warranted? Yes.
Sinbin #3 - Round 8 v Brisbane = Fainu professional foul. Bin warranted? Yes.
Sinbin #4 - Round 9 v Bulldogs = Klemmer referee descent. Bin warranted? Yes.
Sinbin #5 - Round 9 v Bulldogs = Seyfarth striking. Bin warranted? Yes.
Sinbin #6 - Round 10 v Knights = Bula professional foul. Bin warranted? Yes.
Sinbin #7 - Round 11 v Dolphins = Naden dangerous contact. Bin warranted? Yes.
Sinbin #8 - Round 11 v Dolphins = Olam dangerous contact. Bin warranted? Yes.

For mine, 7 were definitely warranted and expected. Not sure what went down with Stef v Raiders but from the refs reaction, Stef went pretty hard at him and after all the penalties, the ref had reached his limit.
The biggest concern is that in our last 4 games we have copped 6 sinbins and 4 suspensions. Our boys now have a huge bullseye on their foreheads as they run out to play and even though they are attempting to temper their general behaviour, they have almost lost control of it at times with explosive instances of brain fades. In those same 4 games we have given away 27 penalties and 7 ruck infringements, which isnt too bad and certainly on par with their opponents. However we have also had 8 players put on report in this month of games...therein lies the difference.

AmericanHistoryX · May 21, 2024

How many refs decisions were warranted?

Tucker · May 21, 2024

AmericanHistoryX said:
How many refs decisions were warranted?

Most.
I think the problem people have is that our oppositions get away with too much compared with us.

AmericanHistoryX · May 21, 2024

Okay. Can we please hear one of your songs please.

Tucker · May 21, 2024

AmericanHistoryX said:
Okay. Can we please hear one of your songs please.

AmericanHistoryX · May 21, 2024

Not your life story... A song.. be real. Your song... skip the Ego brother..
What's your thing..
Really...

Tucker · May 21, 2024

AmericanHistoryX said:
Not your life story... A song.. be real. Your song... skip the Ego brother..
What's your thing..
Really...

Ummm…I like shooting dogs, Walks along the beach, drinking in my undies…usual stuff.

AmericanHistoryX · May 21, 2024

Tucker said:
Ummm…I like shooting dogs, Walks along the beach, drinking in my undies…usual stuff.

Too funny brother. Ya killing me!!!!

Littlebittipsy · May 21, 2024

AmericanHistoryX said:
No thrashings yet. That is an improvement

Don’t put the mocker on it. 😆😆😆

mikey · May 21, 2024

upthetigers said:
I think even the Juro Curve has lost hope don't see him on here anymore.

There's no curve just a vertical line.

hank37w · May 22, 2024

Tucker said:
Ummm…I like shooting dogs, Walks along the beach, drinking in my undies…usual stuff.

Is that your profile on RSVP.

Would never have picked you for being such a high end audiophile either.

Lauren · Jun 13, 2024

Can't post its entire content so am sharing the link for anyone who may be interested in reading it.

May(ish) NRL efficiency update – have the Tigers improved on anything under Benji? - The Rugby League Eye Test

We are a week late with the Eye Test’s monthly efficiency updates due to scheduling in the mid-season advanced statistical leaders after Round 13. So, this week we have May efficiency update with the first week of June thrown in, as well as a look at what (or if) the Tigers might have improved...

www.rugbyleagueeyetest.com

Buttface · Jun 13, 2024

Lauren said:
Can't post it's entire content so am sharing the link for anyone who may be interested in reading it.
Note: While this analysis provides valuable insights into team performance, it does not encompass all variables affecting our gameplay. E.g. our team lineup often varies from week to week due to injuries and other factors, which may impact our performance in ways not fully captured here.

May(ish) NRL efficiency update – have the Tigers improved on anything under Benji? - The Rugby League Eye Test

We are a week late with the Eye Test’s monthly efficiency updates due to scheduling in the mid-season advanced statistical leaders after Round 13. So, this week we have May efficiency update with the first week of June thrown in, as well as a look at what (or if) the Tigers might have improved...

www.rugbyleagueeyetest.com

Can we just turn to the back page and get the answer?

Lauren · Jun 13, 2024

Buttface said:
Can we just turn to the back page and get the answer?

In short.

Negatives:

Lack of attacking threat.
Inefficient use of possession.
Defensive lapses (conceding long-range tries, limiting our score trying opportunities).
Struggle in generating metres.

Positives:

Low error rate: the Wests Tigers have one of the lowest average error rates per game in the NRL.
Strategic kicking game: Opponents average metres gained on tackle two against the Tigers is among the lowest in the NRL.
Defensive improvement: Wests Tigers rank among the top teams in restricting opponents metres gained on tackles two and four.
Resilience: Despite challenges, Wests Tigers opponents have one of the lowest average starting positions on tackle one in the NRL.

Overall, the analysis suggests that while the Wests Tigers face significant challenges, there are also areas of strength and potential for improvement. The key issue is the team's difficulty in converting possession into points.

BAGNF05 · Jun 13, 2024

Lauren said:
In short.

Negatives:

Lack of attacking threat.

Inefficient use of possession.

Defensive lapses (conceding long-range tries, limiting our score trying opportunities).

Struggle in generating metres.

Positives:

Low error rate - the Wests Tigers have one of the lowest average error rates per game in the NRL.

Strategic kicking game: Opponents average metres gained on tackle two against the Tigers is among the lowest in the NRL.

Defensive improvement - Wests Tigers rank among the top teams in restricting opponents metres gained on tackles two and four.

Resilience - Despite challenges, Wests Tigers opponents have one of the lowest average starting positions on tackle one in the NRL.

I reckon you could have easily been describing the Bulldogs of 2022/23 here.

You throw in a Stephen Crichton, Bronson Xerri & Connor Tracey and it’s a potential top eight side.

Turuva and Luai coming, another dangerous back please.

Buttface · Jun 13, 2024

Lauren said:
In short.

Negatives:

Lack of attacking threat.

Inefficient use of possession.

Defensive lapses (conceding long-range tries, limiting our score trying opportunities).

Struggle in generating metres.

Positives:

Low error rate - the Wests Tigers have one of the lowest average error rates per game in the NRL.

Strategic kicking game: Opponents average metres gained on tackle two against the Tigers is among the lowest in the NRL.

Defensive improvement - Wests Tigers rank among the top teams in restricting opponents metres gained on tackles two and four.

Resilience - Despite challenges, Wests Tigers opponents have one of the lowest average starting positions on tackle one in the NRL.

Thanks Lauren.
Now what about the answer to the age old question of how to get then Tigers winning.

innsaneink · Jun 14, 2024

InGalvinWeTrust said:
Never said they were, just thought others might find it an interesting read. I do not think that they allude to an improvement or a regression, just thought it is an interesting read.

Plenty of us here appreciate the effort you go to mate... Thank you and keep it up

Maybe a user name change though is in irder

twentyforty · Jun 14, 2024

Lauren said:
In short.

Negatives:

Lack of attacking threat.

Inefficient use of possession.

Defensive lapses (conceding long-range tries, limiting our score trying opportunities).

Struggle in generating metres.

Positives:

Low error rate: the Wests Tigers have one of the lowest average error rates per game in the NRL.

Strategic kicking game: Opponents average metres gained on tackle two against the Tigers is among the lowest in the NRL.

Defensive improvement: Wests Tigers rank among the top teams in restricting opponents metres gained on tackles two and four.

Resilience: Despite challenges, Wests Tigers opponents have one of the lowest average starting positions on tackle one in the NRL.

Overall, the analysis suggests that while the Wests Tigers face significant challenges, there are also areas of strength and potential for improvement. The key issue is the team's difficulty in converting possession into points.

Considering all of that, it looks like there’s plenty of effort, but it isn’t coordinated?
I could be wrong but, having a coach and a half on the same page would be a start in the right direction.
pleased to hear Sullivan is focussed on improving his game and fighting for that 7 jersey.
If I can be so bold? I think Benji needs to settle on a spine and run spine workshops. Get those 5 players coordinated first, then they will do most of the heavy lifting for him.

InBulaWeTrust · Jun 14, 2024

innsaneink said:
Plenty of us here appreciate the effort you go to mate... Thank you and keep it up

Maybe a user name change though is in irder

Thank you,

I've been eager to change the username but couldn't for a month until just now

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