innsaneink
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@stryker said:
Sad eh…a touch paranoid?
Get over yourself bud
Are we sick of Schapelle yet
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Sad eh…a touch paranoid?
Get over yourself bud
happy_tiger
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@Yossarian said:
I was told by a cousin they hire boards out as well Yoss
Its not as if it was a surfboard ,which you take because of weight feel ,length etc
happy_tiger
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Stryker , what are the chances that a baggage handler would have a vacuum sealed bag ready to go that was the exact size of the boogie board bag that Corby used
Its not as if boogie boards being taken to Bali would be common , wouldn't you be more likely to target a surfboard than a boogie board
Where would a baggage handler store a vacuum sealed bag waiting for the exact sized boogie board bag
Then he/she has to be in the situation where there is no one watching that he/she doing it
And then comes the time frame available , not being detected by sniffer dogs (which according to my Uncle who was airport manager for Ansett ) happens quite regularly even on domestic flights
The odds just continue to grow
I'm not saying its not possible , buts it not probable and would involve massive risk when there would be easier means available to a baggage handler
Its not as if boogie boards being taken to Bali would be common , wouldn't you be more likely to target a surfboard than a boogie board
Where would a baggage handler store a vacuum sealed bag waiting for the exact sized boogie board bag
Then he/she has to be in the situation where there is no one watching that he/she doing it
And then comes the time frame available , not being detected by sniffer dogs (which according to my Uncle who was airport manager for Ansett ) happens quite regularly even on domestic flights
The odds just continue to grow
I'm not saying its not possible , buts it not probable and would involve massive risk when there would be easier means available to a baggage handler
supercoach
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Their is always a element of doubt in every case and if we cast our minds back to Lindy Chamberlain, most Australians gave her the guilty vote only to jump ship a few years down the track when the verdict was over ruled.
From the countless articles I have read it would be hard to imagine she was not involved but their is always the chance she was set up and if so probably by a family member.
I think the real villains in this case is the media. They have given her celebrity status and showered her with gold.This is a insult to the Indonesians and must be doing the Bali nine and their appeals so much damage. You cant blame her from accepting all the media has to offer but I would have loved her to quietly slip back into mainstream society rather than on the media bandwagon.
Anyway is she guilty, we will never know for sure
From the countless articles I have read it would be hard to imagine she was not involved but their is always the chance she was set up and if so probably by a family member.
I think the real villains in this case is the media. They have given her celebrity status and showered her with gold.This is a insult to the Indonesians and must be doing the Bali nine and their appeals so much damage. You cant blame her from accepting all the media has to offer but I would have loved her to quietly slip back into mainstream society rather than on the media bandwagon.
Anyway is she guilty, we will never know for sure
simonthetiger
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Guilty or not…the poor woman did ten years in gaol...she didnt murder/rape or bash anyone.
She has done overs and thats if she even did it.....i feel for the woman and if she makes fifty million out of it then good on her,ten years in hell.....
She has done overs and thats if she even did it.....i feel for the woman and if she makes fifty million out of it then good on her,ten years in hell.....
sunshine_coast_tiger
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@simonthetiger said:
I sort of agree, 10 years in that jail is no picnic.
However I think any TV station is wasting their money paying for an interview as I believe under her parole conditions she can't say she is innocent, can't say she didn't get a fair trail, can't complain about the jail etc..,
It will be a pretty boring interview if she sticks to her parole conditions and if she doesn't she goes back I'm for another 3 years. Whoever pays it is wasting their money big time.
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@happy tiger said:
Which may or may not be true. No offense to your cousin but I'd like something more solid than that. And even assuming that is true it doesn't mean it was the case in 2005\. I believe Mercedes had only just arrived in Bali at the time
happy_tiger
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@Yossarian said:
Well they had just recently been to Bali when we were talking about this (several years ago )
happy_tiger
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Yoss ,honestly , what chance that did a baggage handler have a putting a vacuum sealed bag that was an identical size to the boogie board bag inside
How could you possibly know that someone would bring the perfectly shaped bag to fit this on that particular day
I know Stryker is an ex second rower so probably isn't the sharpest kangaroo in the top paddock , but you I know you have some common sense despite your political allegiances
How could you possibly know that someone would bring the perfectly shaped bag to fit this on that particular day
I know Stryker is an ex second rower so probably isn't the sharpest kangaroo in the top paddock , but you I know you have some common sense despite your political allegiances
@sunshine coast tiger said:
I don't believe that admission of guilt is part of her parole arrangements. As I understand it her crime predates the current Indonesian law that requires parolees to admit guilt.
happy_tiger
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@Yossarian said:
People will watch regardless Yoss .
Simon so using that logic Simon Gittany should be able to make a couple of million as well
We can't be 100% sure he definitely through his fiance off the balcony
So the only difference is one's is a drug runner and one is a murderer
In my opinion if a drug runner delivers drugs that kills someone , they are just as bad as Simon Gittany
@happy tiger said:
I would argue drug runners most likely have more deaths on their hands than your run of the mill murderer.
@happy tiger said:
Well I'd think the whole point of using baggage handlers is that they don't need to go to any lengths to avoid detection. A concealment along the lines of a vacuum sealed bag would defeat the point of such a method.
Glen_McWilliams
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From The Jakarta Post:
_Meanwhile, the head of Denpasar Correctional Board, which is required to supervise and mentor Corby during her parole, Ketut Artha, said that he was very disappointed with Corby’s decision to hold an exclusive interview without coordinating with the board.\
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“She or her guarantor should have coordinated with us, whatever they want to do,” Artha said.\
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Artha said that Corby was free to do anything during her parole provided she didn’t break the law and always coordinated with the board.\
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“**However, if she makes comments that damage the image of any institution in Indonesia during the interview, we could consider revoking her parole.”**
Corby was arrested at Ngurah Rai International Airport in Denpasar in October 2004 for smuggling 4.2 kilograms of marijuana into Indonesia. She was sentenced to 20 years in prison.\
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However, in addition to receiving various sentence reductions for good behavior from prison authorities, President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono in 2012 granted her a five-year sentence reduction.\
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On Monday morning, Corby was released. However, **she will have to live in Bali under the supervision of the correctional board until the end of her sentence, plus an additional year after that.**_
_Meanwhile, the head of Denpasar Correctional Board, which is required to supervise and mentor Corby during her parole, Ketut Artha, said that he was very disappointed with Corby’s decision to hold an exclusive interview without coordinating with the board.\
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“She or her guarantor should have coordinated with us, whatever they want to do,” Artha said.\
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Artha said that Corby was free to do anything during her parole provided she didn’t break the law and always coordinated with the board.\
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“**However, if she makes comments that damage the image of any institution in Indonesia during the interview, we could consider revoking her parole.”**
Corby was arrested at Ngurah Rai International Airport in Denpasar in October 2004 for smuggling 4.2 kilograms of marijuana into Indonesia. She was sentenced to 20 years in prison.\
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However, in addition to receiving various sentence reductions for good behavior from prison authorities, President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono in 2012 granted her a five-year sentence reduction.\
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On Monday morning, Corby was released. However, **she will have to live in Bali under the supervision of the correctional board until the end of her sentence, plus an additional year after that.**_
simonthetiger
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Murderers should rot in gaol…..comparing her to Gittany is just ridiculous..
And drug smugglers....I'm pretty sure pot hasnt killed anyone.Again ridiculous to compare....if she had 50 pounds of heroin then fair enough.....
But grass........its absurd the amount of time she has done...lets all leave her alone.
And drug smugglers....I'm pretty sure pot hasnt killed anyone.Again ridiculous to compare....if she had 50 pounds of heroin then fair enough.....
But grass........its absurd the amount of time she has done...lets all leave her alone.
@happy tiger said:
Haha nice dig Happy. One flaw in your comment of common sense though….we all think differently. For instance I do not share your conservative view of the world in most matters. You think she should have done the full 20, CB and others that she should have been put to death, whilst others entertain the thought that just maybe she didnt do it.You yourself mentioned that although improbable, it is not impossible that something else happened that day. This has been my point all along. I agree totally that the media saturation of this whole event has been a pain in the arse, however I do believe there is a story there as so many questions were not answered during the trial. My views in some form do come from a slightly selfish perspective as I travel a lot overseas, the majority of which is into countries where if you get caught with that crap you are gone.
...and dont forget there is precedence in this area. In the early 2000's, before Corby, an Ozzy middle aged couple landed in Denpersar and when they unpacked their bags in the hotel room, found a package of ganja the size of a tissue box. Luckily for them it went through unnoticed. There was also another case just last year in Thailand and I myself have heard many stories of similar stuff happening in Thailand with bribery by corrupt officials being the motive. This is due to Australia having a bad reputation internationaly as a "drug nation".
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She's not across the line on that one yet Knuckles. The Qld Govt are not happy about the prospect, neither is the Fed Govt, nor are the Indos, who may just view it as a breach of parole and throw her back in the slammer. She'll need to tread carefully here as money doesn't always buy happiness, and I'm sure Corby has a new appreciation on that after spending 10 years locked up.
Drug runners of marijuana don't compare to murderers at all. If someone dies from marijuana (or causes someone else to die eg through driving while high) it's the person taking the drugs fault. The drug runner isn't forcing anyone to smoke weed… A murderer on the other hand is taking someone's life. I don't see how these two can be compared
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