Are We Still A Bottom 4 Side GNR??

Are we still a bottom 4 side, hard to say at this point because we beat the dragons who are drawing accolades from commentators at the moment, played well against souths, only just lost the the dogs and then smacked them a few weeks later, did well against the eels who used to be our bogey team, didn't do well in the fortnight against the raiders and warriors and got lapped tonight. A series of ups and downs lack of consistency so I guess it depends which wests tigers team turns up over the coming games as to how many competition points they can accrue.
 
@Geo. said:
@happy tiger said:
Three mistakes in 8 minutes , three tries

Game over

The three blokes that made the mistakes probably had more match experience than the rest of the side

Thanks Tony above..

Richards kick off on the full had a far worse effect on the result….your blind freddy probably can attribute that to Farah as well..

Oh look , the two Robbie Farah Protective Rangers are here

Still they won't admit that the first person who flinched was Farah

And Hobbo , we will never know the outcome if it had been a 40/20

I suppose the Roosters knew that we would finally fold , and as every other game we have folded it is mostly the experienced blokes that let us down

Bit like the last dogs game when the same person tries a low percentage play at the wrong end of the field

Luckily the Dogs were a basket case
 
@Geo. said:
@happy tiger said:
But that's exactly it the 40/20

Show some faith in your on line defence

What do Brooks ,Moses ,Tedesco etc think when they see the bloke with the C next to his name do that ??

They think its panic time and time to start playing catch up

Your a Psychologist now…too funny

I was there there heads did not drop in fact for the next 1- or so minutes the intensity lifted

If it had of been a bit shorter Hap, and gone out, everyone would have saying what a brilliant kick. It would have lifted the team and he'd be a genius. It wasn't as if it was one of Benji's (?into the grandstand)
It may not have been the right play, but it didn't lose the game for us.
I'm a lot more worried about our lack of aggression , off the bench especially.
We were holding them reasonably well until we started rotating the forwards
Taupau wasn't as effective in his first spell and I know it won't be a popular thing to say, but imo he still should be coming off the bench as a impact player, ( where he has always created havoc).
I know that's not where he wants to play, but that's where he is always effective. Both for us and New Zealand.
As far as the team is concerned , that's where he is needed, at least this year.

There wasa big drop in intensity when we started rotating the forwards .
It was never going to be a game that we were likely to win. But we always have trouble against those teams with huge, fast packs. We are still a chance of the 8, and I never thought I'd be thinking that at the start of the year. It depends how we go against the middle tier of the comp.
I still think we're short of A couple of good hard hitting forwards , and as we all keep saying, a Centre. But I still think we can still make the 8 with what we have.
 
@Fumbles said:
Roosters worked out just run at Mitchell Moses because he can't tackle. He can't even kick What is it that he can do ? Most hyped up over rated player I have ever seen.

And we let a top 5/8 who was about to hit his peak go to the Raiders.
 
@happy tiger said:
@Geo. said:
@happy tiger said:
Three mistakes in 8 minutes , three tries

Game over

The three blokes that made the mistakes probably had more match experience than the rest of the side

Thanks Tony above..

Richards kick off on the full had a far worse effect on the result….your blind freddy probably can attribute that to Farah as well..

Oh look , the two Robbie Farah Protective Rangers are here

Still they won't admit that the first person who flinched was Farah

And Hobbo , we will never know the outcome if it had been a 40/20

I suppose the Roosters knew that we would finally fold , and as every other game we have folded it is mostly the experienced blokes that let us down

Bit like the last dogs game when the same person tries a low percentage play at the wrong end of the field

Luckily the Dogs were a basket case

Yep and I give him my 1 point this week…
 
@happy tiger said:
@Geo. said:
@happy tiger said:
Three mistakes in 8 minutes , three tries

Game over

The three blokes that made the mistakes probably had more match experience than the rest of the side

Thanks Tony above..

Richards kick off on the full had a far worse effect on the result….your blind freddy probably can attribute that to Farah as well..

Oh look , the two Robbie Farah Protective Rangers are here

Still they won't admit that the first person who flinched was Farah

And Hobbo , we will never know the outcome if it had been a 40/20

I suppose the Roosters knew that we would finally fold , and as every other game we have folded it is mostly the experienced blokes that let us down

Bit like the last dogs game when the same person tries a low percentage play at the wrong end of the field

Luckily the Dogs were a basket case

:laughing: Spoken by the usual Farah basher..

I'm not saying he played a great game by any stretch, he hasn't played a typical Farah game all year. I just simply find your argument quite stupid considering your trying to blame the loss on one play that didn't even result in points.

Twist it and turn it however way you want it, that play had nothing to do with the loss tonight, so stop digging yourself into a hole by name calling because your point was exposed as invalid.
 
@Geo. said:
@happy tiger said:
But that's exactly it the 40/20

Show some faith in your on line defence

What do Brooks ,Moses ,Tedesco etc think when they see the bloke with the C next to his name do that ??

They think its panic time and time to start playing catch up

Your a Psychologist now…too funny

I was there there heads did not drop in fact for the next 10 or so minutes the intensity lifted

If it had of been a bit shorter Hap, and gone out, everyone would have saying what a brilliant kick. It would have lifted the team and he'd be a genius. It wasn't as if it was one of Benji's (?into the grandstand)
Not saying it was the right play, but it certainly didn't cost us the game.
I'm a lot more worried about our lack of aggression , off the bench especially.
We were holding them as well as could have been expected, until we started rotating the forwards
Taupau wasn't as effective in his first spell and I know it won't be a popular thing to say, but imo he still should be coming off the bench as a impact player, ( where he has always created havoc).
I know that's not where he wants to play, but that's where he is always effective. Both for us and New Zealand.
As far as the team is concerned , that's where he is needed, at least this year.

There wasa big drop in intensity when we started rotating the forwards .
It was never going to be a game that we were likely to win. But we always have trouble against those teams with huge, fast packs. We are still a chance of the 8, and I never thought I'd be thinking that at the start of the year. It depends how we go against the middle tier of the comp.
I still think we're short of A couple of good hard hitting forwards , and as we all keep saying, a Centre. But I still think we can still make the 8 with what we have.
 
@stryker said:
@shane2801 said:
Yea, that's why he made the test side. God forbid if Wests left it up to you Stryker you would put the original offer of 2013 back on the table again to try and woo him back. It doesn't surprise me you still think he's brilliant though.

Who are Wests?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wests_Tigers
 
Ourkick chase is probably worse than ever at the moment, we did at least put some pressure on the receivers on a couple of occasions last night( not many), but usually there has been no pressure at all. Even when our kicks are on target, We seem to be extremely lazy with our chases.
 
@goldcoast tiger said:
Ourkick chase is probably worse than ever at the moment, we did at least put some pressure on the receivers on a couple of occasions last night( not many), but usually there has been no pressure at all. Even when our kicks are on target, We seem to be extremely lazy with our chases.

Our kick chase has frustrated me for years, and under each coach we have had, it always looks ordinary compared to the opposition.The Roosters gave us no room at all when they kicked, yet they were rarely troubled by us when fielding kicks.
 
@Tony33 said:
@happy tiger said:
@Geo. said:
@happy tiger said:
Three mistakes in 8 minutes , three tries

Game over

The three blokes that made the mistakes probably had more match experience than the rest of the side

Thanks Tony above..

Richards kick off on the full had a far worse effect on the result….your blind freddy probably can attribute that to Farah as well..

Oh look , the two Robbie Farah Protective Rangers are here

Still they won't admit that the first person who flinched was Farah

And Hobbo , we will never know the outcome if it had been a 40/20

I suppose the Roosters knew that we would finally fold , and as every other game we have folded it is mostly the experienced blokes that let us down

Bit like the last dogs game when the same person tries a low percentage play at the wrong end of the field

Luckily the Dogs were a basket case

:laughing: Spoken by the usual Farah basher..

I'm not saying he played a great game by any stretch, he hasn't played a typical Farah game all year. I just simply find your argument quite stupid considering your trying to blame the loss on one play that didn't even result in points.

Twist it and turn it however way you want it, that play had nothing to do with the loss tonight, so stop digging yourself into a hole by name calling because your point was exposed as invalid.

No I'm blaming the loss on three stupid mistakes in 8 minutes

Farah kicks out on the full

Taupau turnover

Pattycakes kicking out on the full

But I'm being more critical of Farah because yet again when we just needed to keep our heads down and bums up and keep in the grind he went for a play that wasn't required at the time

We were hanging in there , we were holding the Roosters out , we were frustrating them into errors and turnovers

Tell me one thing I just said was wrong

Yet half the Forum can't admit that Farah has done this so many times and is why I would take Cameron Smith over Robbie every day of the week
 
@Tony33 said:
I'm not saying he played a great game by any stretch, he hasn't played a typical Farah game all year.

Well then perhaps he is deserved of some criticism?
 
@happy tiger said:
@Tony33 said:
@happy tiger said:
@Geo. said:
Thanks Tony above..

Richards kick off on the full had a far worse effect on the result….your blind freddy probably can attribute that to Farah as well..

Oh look , the two Robbie Farah Protective Rangers are here

Still they won't admit that the first person who flinched was Farah

And Hobbo , we will never know the outcome if it had been a 40/20

I suppose the Roosters knew that we would finally fold , and as every other game we have folded it is mostly the experienced blokes that let us down

Bit like the last dogs game when the same person tries a low percentage play at the wrong end of the field

Luckily the Dogs were a basket case

:laughing: Spoken by the usual Farah basher..

I'm not saying he played a great game by any stretch, he hasn't played a typical Farah game all year. I just simply find your argument quite stupid considering your trying to blame the loss on one play that didn't even result in points.

Twist it and turn it however way you want it, that play had nothing to do with the loss tonight, so stop digging yourself into a hole by name calling because your point was exposed as invalid.

No I'm blaming the loss on three stupid mistakes in 8 minutes

Farah kicks out on the full

Taupau turnover

Pattycakes kicking out on the full

But I'm being more critical of Farah because yet again when we just needed to keep our heads down and bums up and keep in the grind he went for a play that wasn't required at the time

We were hanging in there , we were holding the Roosters out , we were frustrating them into errors and turnovers

Tell me one thing I just said was wrong

Yet half the Forum can't admit that Farah has done this so many times and is why I would take Cameron Smith over Robbie every day of the week

Farah's been garbage for a long time , he does some stupid crap I agree … No buts about it !!

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@happy tiger said:
@Tony33 said:
@happy tiger said:
@Geo. said:
Thanks Tony above..

Richards kick off on the full had a far worse effect on the result….your blind freddy probably can attribute that to Farah as well..

Oh look , the two Robbie Farah Protective Rangers are here

Still they won't admit that the first person who flinched was Farah

And Hobbo , we will never know the outcome if it had been a 40/20

I suppose the Roosters knew that we would finally fold , and as every other game we have folded it is mostly the experienced blokes that let us down

Bit like the last dogs game when the same person tries a low percentage play at the wrong end of the field

Luckily the Dogs were a basket case

:laughing: Spoken by the usual Farah basher..

I'm not saying he played a great game by any stretch, he hasn't played a typical Farah game all year. I just simply find your argument quite stupid considering your trying to blame the loss on one play that didn't even result in points.

Twist it and turn it however way you want it, that play had nothing to do with the loss tonight, so stop digging yourself into a hole by name calling because your point was exposed as invalid.

No I'm blaming the loss on three stupid mistakes in 8 minutes

Farah kicks out on the full

Taupau turnover

Pattycakes kicking out on the full

But I'm being more critical of Farah because yet again when we just needed to keep our heads down and bums up and keep in the grind he went for a play that wasn't required at the time

We were hanging in there , we were holding the Roosters out , we were frustrating them into errors and turnovers

Tell me one thing I just said was wrong

Yet half the Forum can't admit that Farah has done this so many times and is why I would take Cameron Smith over Robbie every day of the week

I just watched the replay Happy,

Taupau and Farah's errors whilst both were unnecessary, neither resulted in points.

We ended up in pretty good positions after each error the following set and even the commentators referred to the fact that we were holding firm.

So i struggle to see how those 2 errors could have possibly cost us the game ?

The way i see it, their forwards bashed us through the middle and their ruck speed compared to ours resulted in the loppsided scoreline.

We could've had a 95% completion rate and still copped a shelacking with that difference in ruck speed.

That is the point I'm trying to make.

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@Tiger In The Gong said:
@Tony33 said:
I'm not saying he played a great game by any stretch, he hasn't played a typical Farah game all year.

Well then perhaps he is deserved of some criticism?

Yes he is, as were many players last night.

But to say he cost us the game based on one error that didn't even result in points is absurd.

I mean really..

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Errors don't need to result in points

They change momentum

I think we completed 1 set out of 8 in that time

If blokes with under 20 games make those errors they will learn from it

All Robbie learns is he is a protected species both on and off field

Lift your game Robbie , use your head
 
I was very annoyed when Moses tried to get up again to score when he was clearly held then getting penalised giving the Easts the ball back to score in the next set.
 
Happy you have a point in what you said , but as has already been said, in the context of last nights game, it made no difference at all . in the first ten minutes it was obvious from past experience that we were struggling , and the amount of offloads were killing us .
Unless the Roosters had fallen into a giant hole we were always going to be in big trouble.
They held out longer than I actually thought they would, but eventually the gates opened.
Probably most of the guys out there could be accused of making the same mistakes they usually make against the bigger, faster teams.
Without more speed and aggression from our pack , we are always have the same results against those types of teams
 

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