ARLC scraps anthem

[watersider]

I'm surprised at the response to this. The anthem signifies something negative to Indigenous people. I suppose it's hard for them to connect with when they're witness to a system which they see as marginalising them and their interests. Maybe they should shut that away and sing it anyway? Look how outraged we all get because they don't want to sing our song. While I don't think we're particularly good at recognising their traditions. Already on here we see negative attitudes towards smoke ceremonies and welcome to country. It would be nice if all Australians could have a greater sense of connection to the country, the flag and the anthem but I don't think it has to be imposed on people. As a republican, I don't like the flag and I wouldn't wear it. I'm just not proud of our connection to the monarchy and the union jack. Do you have to be patriotic to be a good citizen? The flag, the anthem are just constructs. It's only been our anthem since 1978. Indigenous people were recognised as Australian citizens in 1967. I get where they're coming from. And I'm not against Australia or wishing I was somewhere else, I just think our country, like all countries, has unresolved issues.

 

[gallagher]

I'm surprised at the response to this. The anthem signifies something negative to Indigenous people. I suppose it's hard for them to connect with when they're witness to a system which they see as marginalising them and their interests. Maybe they should shut that away and sing it anyway? Look how outraged we all get because they don't want to sing our song. While I don't think we're particularly good at recognising their traditions. Already on here we see negative attitudes towards smoke ceremonies and welcome to country. It would be nice if all Australians could have a greater sense of connection to the country, the flag and the anthem but I don't think it has to be imposed on people. As a republican, I don't like the flag and I wouldn't wear it. I'm just not proud of our connection to the monarchy and the union jack. Do you have to be patriotic to be a good citizen? The flag, the anthem are just constructs. It's only been our anthem since 1978. Indigenous people were recognised as Australian citizens in 1967. I get where they're coming from. And I'm not against Australia or wishing I was somewhere else, I just think our country, like all countries, has unresolved issues.

Cody Waller says the anthem doesn't represent him or his family. Well welcome to country doesn't represent me or my family, so why should I respect it?

 

[watersider]

I'm surprised at the response to this. The anthem signifies something negative to Indigenous people. I suppose it's hard for them to connect with when they're witness to a system which they see as marginalising them and their interests. Maybe they should shut that away and sing it anyway? Look how outraged we all get because they don't want to sing our song. While I don't think we're particularly good at recognising their traditions. Already on here we see negative attitudes towards smoke ceremonies and welcome to country. It would be nice if all Australians could have a greater sense of connection to the country, the flag and the anthem but I don't think it has to be imposed on people. As a republican, I don't like the flag and I wouldn't wear it. I'm just not proud of our connection to the monarchy and the union jack. Do you have to be patriotic to be a good citizen? The flag, the anthem are just constructs. It's only been our anthem since 1978. Indigenous people were recognised as Australian citizens in 1967. I get where they're coming from. And I'm not against Australia or wishing I was somewhere else, I just think our country, like all countries, has unresolved issues.

Cody Waller says the anthem doesn't represent him or his family. Well welcome to country doesn't represent me or my family, so why should I respect it?

You're making the exact argument he is to argue that he shouldn't take that stance.

 

[cochise]

I'm surprised at the response to this. The anthem signifies something negative to Indigenous people. I suppose it's hard for them to connect with when they're witness to a system which they see as marginalising them and their interests. Maybe they should shut that away and sing it anyway? Look how outraged we all get because they don't want to sing our song. While I don't think we're particularly good at recognising their traditions. Already on here we see negative attitudes towards smoke ceremonies and welcome to country. It would be nice if all Australians could have a greater sense of connection to the country, the flag and the anthem but I don't think it has to be imposed on people. As a republican, I don't like the flag and I wouldn't wear it. I'm just not proud of our connection to the monarchy and the union jack. Do you have to be patriotic to be a good citizen? The flag, the anthem are just constructs. It's only been our anthem since 1978. Indigenous people were recognised as Australian citizens in 1967. I get where they're coming from. And I'm not against Australia or wishing I was somewhere else, I just think our country, like all countries, has unresolved issues.

Cody Waller says the anthem doesn't represent him or his family. Well welcome to country doesn't represent me or my family, so why should I respect it?

You're making the exact argument he is to argue that he shouldn't take that stance.

What he is saying is why should he have to participate in welcome to country, if Walker doesn't have to participate in the anthem!

 

[cochise]

To me it’s not the use or overuse that’s the issue. It’s that yet again we appease the loud voice. I won’t be watching.
Maybe I could protest about ‘welcome to country’ being rammed down my throat at every opening of an envelope

The event has lost me as a viewer. It's just divisive bulldust to me.

Why because they are not singing the Anthem at an event that shouldn't have it anyway?

 

[gallagher]

I'm surprised at the response to this. The anthem signifies something negative to Indigenous people. I suppose it's hard for them to connect with when they're witness to a system which they see as marginalising them and their interests. Maybe they should shut that away and sing it anyway? Look how outraged we all get because they don't want to sing our song. While I don't think we're particularly good at recognising their traditions. Already on here we see negative attitudes towards smoke ceremonies and welcome to country. It would be nice if all Australians could have a greater sense of connection to the country, the flag and the anthem but I don't think it has to be imposed on people. As a republican, I don't like the flag and I wouldn't wear it. I'm just not proud of our connection to the monarchy and the union jack. Do you have to be patriotic to be a good citizen? The flag, the anthem are just constructs. It's only been our anthem since 1978. Indigenous people were recognised as Australian citizens in 1967. I get where they're coming from. And I'm not against Australia or wishing I was somewhere else, I just think our country, like all countries, has unresolved issues.

Cody Waller says the anthem doesn't represent him or his family. Well welcome to country doesn't represent me or my family, so why should I respect it?

You're making the exact argument he is to argue that he shouldn't take that stance.

So you think we are both right or both wrong?

 

[gallagher]

To me it’s not the use or overuse that’s the issue. It’s that yet again we appease the loud voice. I won’t be watching.
Maybe I could protest about ‘welcome to country’ being rammed down my throat at every opening of an envelope

The event has lost me as a viewer. It's just divisive bulldust to me.

Why because they are not singing the Anthem at an event that shouldn't have it anyway?

Its just an extension of not singing it at any occasion.

 

[cochise]

To me it’s not the use or overuse that’s the issue. It’s that yet again we appease the loud voice. I won’t be watching.
Maybe I could protest about ‘welcome to country’ being rammed down my throat at every opening of an envelope

The event has lost me as a viewer. It's just divisive bulldust to me.

Why because they are not singing the Anthem at an event that shouldn't have it anyway?

Its just an extension of not singing it at any occasion.

As I said I have no problem with any group of people not singing the anthem if they feel it doesn't represent them and agitating for change!

 

[watersider]

I'm surprised at the response to this. The anthem signifies something negative to Indigenous people. I suppose it's hard for them to connect with when they're witness to a system which they see as marginalising them and their interests. Maybe they should shut that away and sing it anyway? Look how outraged we all get because they don't want to sing our song. While I don't think we're particularly good at recognising their traditions. Already on here we see negative attitudes towards smoke ceremonies and welcome to country. It would be nice if all Australians could have a greater sense of connection to the country, the flag and the anthem but I don't think it has to be imposed on people. As a republican, I don't like the flag and I wouldn't wear it. I'm just not proud of our connection to the monarchy and the union jack. Do you have to be patriotic to be a good citizen? The flag, the anthem are just constructs. It's only been our anthem since 1978. Indigenous people were recognised as Australian citizens in 1967. I get where they're coming from. And I'm not against Australia or wishing I was somewhere else, I just think our country, like all countries, has unresolved issues.

Cody Waller says the anthem doesn't represent him or his family. Well welcome to country doesn't represent me or my family, so why should I respect it?

You're making the exact argument he is to argue that he shouldn't take that stance.

So you think we are both right or both wrong?

I think you're both entitled to say what you want. We're talking about cultural ceremonies here. These are our collective ceremonies, they mean different things to people. I don't see why welcome to country offends you. Care to explain? Not having a go, I just don't get it.

 

[gallagher]

I'm surprised at the response to this. The anthem signifies something negative to Indigenous people. I suppose it's hard for them to connect with when they're witness to a system which they see as marginalising them and their interests. Maybe they should shut that away and sing it anyway? Look how outraged we all get because they don't want to sing our song. While I don't think we're particularly good at recognising their traditions. Already on here we see negative attitudes towards smoke ceremonies and welcome to country. It would be nice if all Australians could have a greater sense of connection to the country, the flag and the anthem but I don't think it has to be imposed on people. As a republican, I don't like the flag and I wouldn't wear it. I'm just not proud of our connection to the monarchy and the union jack. Do you have to be patriotic to be a good citizen? The flag, the anthem are just constructs. It's only been our anthem since 1978. Indigenous people were recognised as Australian citizens in 1967. I get where they're coming from. And I'm not against Australia or wishing I was somewhere else, I just think our country, like all countries, has unresolved issues.

Cody Waller says the anthem doesn't represent him or his family. Well welcome to country doesn't represent me or my family, so why should I respect it?

You're making the exact argument he is to argue that he shouldn't take that stance.

So you think we are both right or both wrong?

I think you're both entitled to say what you want. We're talking about cultural ceremonies here. These are our collective ceremonies, they mean different things to people. I don't see why welcome to country offends you. Care to explain? Not having a go, I just don't get it.

It doesn't. But if we all take the stance that we only respect things that directly represents our families then we'd end up in a pretty crapy country.

 

[cochise]

I'm surprised at the response to this. The anthem signifies something negative to Indigenous people. I suppose it's hard for them to connect with when they're witness to a system which they see as marginalising them and their interests. Maybe they should shut that away and sing it anyway? Look how outraged we all get because they don't want to sing our song. While I don't think we're particularly good at recognising their traditions. Already on here we see negative attitudes towards smoke ceremonies and welcome to country. It would be nice if all Australians could have a greater sense of connection to the country, the flag and the anthem but I don't think it has to be imposed on people. As a republican, I don't like the flag and I wouldn't wear it. I'm just not proud of our connection to the monarchy and the union jack. Do you have to be patriotic to be a good citizen? The flag, the anthem are just constructs. It's only been our anthem since 1978. Indigenous people were recognised as Australian citizens in 1967. I get where they're coming from. And I'm not against Australia or wishing I was somewhere else, I just think our country, like all countries, has unresolved issues.

Cody Waller says the anthem doesn't represent him or his family. Well welcome to country doesn't represent me or my family, so why should I respect it?

You're making the exact argument he is to argue that he shouldn't take that stance.

So you think we are both right or both wrong?

I think you're both entitled to say what you want. We're talking about cultural ceremonies here. These are our collective ceremonies, they mean different things to people. I don't see why welcome to country offends you. Care to explain? Not having a go, I just don't get it.

It doesn't. But if we all take the stance that we only respect things that directly represents our families then we'd end up in a pretty crapy country.

Our countries indigenous people should probably feel represented by our National Anthem though.

 

[watersider]

I'm surprised at the response to this. The anthem signifies something negative to Indigenous people. I suppose it's hard for them to connect with when they're witness to a system which they see as marginalising them and their interests. Maybe they should shut that away and sing it anyway? Look how outraged we all get because they don't want to sing our song. While I don't think we're particularly good at recognising their traditions. Already on here we see negative attitudes towards smoke ceremonies and welcome to country. It would be nice if all Australians could have a greater sense of connection to the country, the flag and the anthem but I don't think it has to be imposed on people. As a republican, I don't like the flag and I wouldn't wear it. I'm just not proud of our connection to the monarchy and the union jack. Do you have to be patriotic to be a good citizen? The flag, the anthem are just constructs. It's only been our anthem since 1978. Indigenous people were recognised as Australian citizens in 1967. I get where they're coming from. And I'm not against Australia or wishing I was somewhere else, I just think our country, like all countries, has unresolved issues.

Cody Waller says the anthem doesn't represent him or his family. Well welcome to country doesn't represent me or my family, so why should I respect it?

You're making the exact argument he is to argue that he shouldn't take that stance.

So you think we are both right or both wrong?

I think you're both entitled to say what you want. We're talking about cultural ceremonies here. These are our collective ceremonies, they mean different things to people. I don't see why welcome to country offends you. Care to explain? Not having a go, I just don't get it.

It doesn't. But if we all take the stance that we only respect things that directly represents our families then we'd end up in a pretty crapy country.

Sure, but I think the issue for the Indigenous people is that the anthem represents a lot to them. It hurts them, they don't have pride in it. It's come to be associated with the things in Australian society that they feel marginalise them. I don't know, I don't want to speak for Indigenous people. But I don't find it hard to see why they don't like the anthem, and I'm not sure why you want them to sing it. How does it help?

 

[gallagher]

I'm surprised at the response to this. The anthem signifies something negative to Indigenous people. I suppose it's hard for them to connect with when they're witness to a system which they see as marginalising them and their interests. Maybe they should shut that away and sing it anyway? Look how outraged we all get because they don't want to sing our song. While I don't think we're particularly good at recognising their traditions. Already on here we see negative attitudes towards smoke ceremonies and welcome to country. It would be nice if all Australians could have a greater sense of connection to the country, the flag and the anthem but I don't think it has to be imposed on people. As a republican, I don't like the flag and I wouldn't wear it. I'm just not proud of our connection to the monarchy and the union jack. Do you have to be patriotic to be a good citizen? The flag, the anthem are just constructs. It's only been our anthem since 1978. Indigenous people were recognised as Australian citizens in 1967. I get where they're coming from. And I'm not against Australia or wishing I was somewhere else, I just think our country, like all countries, has unresolved issues.

Cody Waller says the anthem doesn't represent him or his family. Well welcome to country doesn't represent me or my family, so why should I respect it?

You're making the exact argument he is to argue that he shouldn't take that stance.

So you think we are both right or both wrong?

I think you're both entitled to say what you want. We're talking about cultural ceremonies here. These are our collective ceremonies, they mean different things to people. I don't see why welcome to country offends you. Care to explain? Not having a go, I just don't get it.

It doesn't. But if we all take the stance that we only respect things that directly represents our families then we'd end up in a pretty crapy country.

Sure, but I think the issue for the Indigenous people is that the anthem represents a lot to them. It hurts them, they don't have pride in it. It's come to be associated with the things in Australian society that they feel marginalise them. I don't know, I don't want to speak for Indigenous people. But I don't find it hard to see why they don't like the anthem, and I'm not sure why you want them to sing it. How does it help?

What part do you think they don't they like?

 

[hobbo1]

I'm surprised at the response to this. The anthem signifies something negative to Indigenous people. I suppose it's hard for them to connect with when they're witness to a system which they see as marginalising them and their interests. Maybe they should shut that away and sing it anyway? Look how outraged we all get because they don't want to sing our song. While I don't think we're particularly good at recognising their traditions. Already on here we see negative attitudes towards smoke ceremonies and welcome to country. It would be nice if all Australians could have a greater sense of connection to the country, the flag and the anthem but I don't think it has to be imposed on people. As a republican, I don't like the flag and I wouldn't wear it. I'm just not proud of our connection to the monarchy and the union jack. Do you have to be patriotic to be a good citizen? The flag, the anthem are just constructs. It's only been our anthem since 1978. Indigenous people were recognised as Australian citizens in 1967. I get where they're coming from. And I'm not against Australia or wishing I was somewhere else, I just think our country, like all countries, has unresolved issues.

Cody Waller says the anthem doesn't represent him or his family. Well welcome to country doesn't represent me or my family, so why should I respect it?

You're making the exact argument he is to argue that he shouldn't take that stance.

So you think we are both right or both wrong?

I think you're both entitled to say what you want. We're talking about cultural ceremonies here. These are our collective ceremonies, they mean different things to people. I don't see why welcome to country offends you. Care to explain? Not having a go, I just don't get it.

It doesn't. But if we all take the stance that we only respect things that directly represents our families then we'd end up in a pretty crapy country.

Sure, but I think the issue for the Indigenous people is that the anthem represents a lot to them. It hurts them, they don't have pride in it. It's come to be associated with the things in Australian society that they feel marginalise them. I don't know, I don't want to speak for Indigenous people. But I don't find it hard to see why they don't like the anthem, and I'm not sure why you want them to sing it. How does it help?

What part do you think they don't they like?

Girt

 

[cochise]

I'm surprised at the response to this. The anthem signifies something negative to Indigenous people. I suppose it's hard for them to connect with when they're witness to a system which they see as marginalising them and their interests. Maybe they should shut that away and sing it anyway? Look how outraged we all get because they don't want to sing our song. While I don't think we're particularly good at recognising their traditions. Already on here we see negative attitudes towards smoke ceremonies and welcome to country. It would be nice if all Australians could have a greater sense of connection to the country, the flag and the anthem but I don't think it has to be imposed on people. As a republican, I don't like the flag and I wouldn't wear it. I'm just not proud of our connection to the monarchy and the union jack. Do you have to be patriotic to be a good citizen? The flag, the anthem are just constructs. It's only been our anthem since 1978. Indigenous people were recognised as Australian citizens in 1967. I get where they're coming from. And I'm not against Australia or wishing I was somewhere else, I just think our country, like all countries, has unresolved issues.

Cody Waller says the anthem doesn't represent him or his family. Well welcome to country doesn't represent me or my family, so why should I respect it?

You're making the exact argument he is to argue that he shouldn't take that stance.

So you think we are both right or both wrong?

I think you're both entitled to say what you want. We're talking about cultural ceremonies here. These are our collective ceremonies, they mean different things to people. I don't see why welcome to country offends you. Care to explain? Not having a go, I just don't get it.

It doesn't. But if we all take the stance that we only respect things that directly represents our families then we'd end up in a pretty crapy country.

Sure, but I think the issue for the Indigenous people is that the anthem represents a lot to them. It hurts them, they don't have pride in it. It's come to be associated with the things in Australian society that they feel marginalise them. I don't know, I don't want to speak for Indigenous people. But I don't find it hard to see why they don't like the anthem, and I'm not sure why you want them to sing it. How does it help?

What part do you think they don't they like?

I have heard indigenous people say they feel the young and free doesn't acknowledge their heritage with the land and the free doesn't represent them!

 

[watersider]

I'm surprised at the response to this. The anthem signifies something negative to Indigenous people. I suppose it's hard for them to connect with when they're witness to a system which they see as marginalising them and their interests. Maybe they should shut that away and sing it anyway? Look how outraged we all get because they don't want to sing our song. While I don't think we're particularly good at recognising their traditions. Already on here we see negative attitudes towards smoke ceremonies and welcome to country. It would be nice if all Australians could have a greater sense of connection to the country, the flag and the anthem but I don't think it has to be imposed on people. As a republican, I don't like the flag and I wouldn't wear it. I'm just not proud of our connection to the monarchy and the union jack. Do you have to be patriotic to be a good citizen? The flag, the anthem are just constructs. It's only been our anthem since 1978. Indigenous people were recognised as Australian citizens in 1967. I get where they're coming from. And I'm not against Australia or wishing I was somewhere else, I just think our country, like all countries, has unresolved issues.

Cody Waller says the anthem doesn't represent him or his family. Well welcome to country doesn't represent me or my family, so why should I respect it?

You're making the exact argument he is to argue that he shouldn't take that stance.

So you think we are both right or both wrong?

I think you're both entitled to say what you want. We're talking about cultural ceremonies here. These are our collective ceremonies, they mean different things to people. I don't see why welcome to country offends you. Care to explain? Not having a go, I just don't get it.

It doesn't. But if we all take the stance that we only respect things that directly represents our families then we'd end up in a pretty crapy country.

Sure, but I think the issue for the Indigenous people is that the anthem represents a lot to them. It hurts them, they don't have pride in it. It's come to be associated with the things in Australian society that they feel marginalise them. I don't know, I don't want to speak for Indigenous people. But I don't find it hard to see why they don't like the anthem, and I'm not sure why you want them to sing it. How does it help?

What part do you think they don't they like?

In the lyrics? I'm not sure. Notion of the nation as a 'young' country? Maybe the suggestion 'We've boundless plains to share' when there's been no treaty or recognition of dispossession. When incarceration rates remain ridiculously high for Indigenous people it might be hard for them to sing 'let us all combine', especially considering the White Australia Policy and the Stolen Generation. But I think what offends more than the words is the singing of a song of patriotism when they don't feel that sense of patriotism. I don't think they find it easy to celebrate the state of the nation as it is today.

 

[jirskyr]

Question: are the moldies gonna sing the Kiwi anthem?

Not fussed for the reasons Happy outlined, it's not technically an Australian match.

Also, I consider the flag and anthem to be symbols, and they don't have to mean the same thing to everyone. You don't have to sing the anthem if you don't feel it; you can take a knee or sit down or whatever you please; it's a free country and you aren't vilifying anyone.

Personally I think the Americans go overboard about their anthem and the way you are "supposed to behave" when it's played, and that's half of their issue in the global sphere, being overly-patriotic, self-absorbed and obsessed with their national symbols.

Better to be quite relaxed about national symbolism.

 

[jirskyr]

Interesting fact - indigenous Australians make up 3.3% of the population, but 12% of NRL players.

 

[gallagher]

I'm surprised at the response to this. The anthem signifies something negative to Indigenous people. I suppose it's hard for them to connect with when they're witness to a system which they see as marginalising them and their interests. Maybe they should shut that away and sing it anyway? Look how outraged we all get because they don't want to sing our song. While I don't think we're particularly good at recognising their traditions. Already on here we see negative attitudes towards smoke ceremonies and welcome to country. It would be nice if all Australians could have a greater sense of connection to the country, the flag and the anthem but I don't think it has to be imposed on people. As a republican, I don't like the flag and I wouldn't wear it. I'm just not proud of our connection to the monarchy and the union jack. Do you have to be patriotic to be a good citizen? The flag, the anthem are just constructs. It's only been our anthem since 1978. Indigenous people were recognised as Australian citizens in 1967. I get where they're coming from. And I'm not against Australia or wishing I was somewhere else, I just think our country, like all countries, has unresolved issues.

Cody Waller says the anthem doesn't represent him or his family. Well welcome to country doesn't represent me or my family, so why should I respect it?

You're making the exact argument he is to argue that he shouldn't take that stance.

So you think we are both right or both wrong?

I think you're both entitled to say what you want. We're talking about cultural ceremonies here. These are our collective ceremonies, they mean different things to people. I don't see why welcome to country offends you. Care to explain? Not having a go, I just don't get it.

It doesn't. But if we all take the stance that we only respect things that directly represents our families then we'd end up in a pretty crapy country.

Sure, but I think the issue for the Indigenous people is that the anthem represents a lot to them. It hurts them, they don't have pride in it. It's come to be associated with the things in Australian society that they feel marginalise them. I don't know, I don't want to speak for Indigenous people. But I don't find it hard to see why they don't like the anthem, and I'm not sure why you want them to sing it. How does it help?

What part do you think they don't they like?

In the lyrics? I'm not sure. Notion of the nation as a 'young' country? Maybe the suggestion 'We've boundless plains to share' when there's been no treaty or recognition of dispossession. When incarceration rates remain ridiculously high for Indigenous people it might be hard for them to sing 'let us all combine', especially considering the White Australia Policy and the Stolen Generation. But I think what offends more than the words is the singing of a song of patriotism when they don't feel that sense of patriotism. I don't think they find it easy to celebrate the state of the nation as it is today.

Not singing the anthem won't change the state of the nation.

 

[cochise]

I'm surprised at the response to this. The anthem signifies something negative to Indigenous people. I suppose it's hard for them to connect with when they're witness to a system which they see as marginalising them and their interests. Maybe they should shut that away and sing it anyway? Look how outraged we all get because they don't want to sing our song. While I don't think we're particularly good at recognising their traditions. Already on here we see negative attitudes towards smoke ceremonies and welcome to country. It would be nice if all Australians could have a greater sense of connection to the country, the flag and the anthem but I don't think it has to be imposed on people. As a republican, I don't like the flag and I wouldn't wear it. I'm just not proud of our connection to the monarchy and the union jack. Do you have to be patriotic to be a good citizen? The flag, the anthem are just constructs. It's only been our anthem since 1978. Indigenous people were recognised as Australian citizens in 1967. I get where they're coming from. And I'm not against Australia or wishing I was somewhere else, I just think our country, like all countries, has unresolved issues.

Cody Waller says the anthem doesn't represent him or his family. Well welcome to country doesn't represent me or my family, so why should I respect it?

You're making the exact argument he is to argue that he shouldn't take that stance.

So you think we are both right or both wrong?

I think you're both entitled to say what you want. We're talking about cultural ceremonies here. These are our collective ceremonies, they mean different things to people. I don't see why welcome to country offends you. Care to explain? Not having a go, I just don't get it.

It doesn't. But if we all take the stance that we only respect things that directly represents our families then we'd end up in a pretty crapy country.

Sure, but I think the issue for the Indigenous people is that the anthem represents a lot to them. It hurts them, they don't have pride in it. It's come to be associated with the things in Australian society that they feel marginalise them. I don't know, I don't want to speak for Indigenous people. But I don't find it hard to see why they don't like the anthem, and I'm not sure why you want them to sing it. How does it help?

What part do you think they don't they like?

In the lyrics? I'm not sure. Notion of the nation as a 'young' country? Maybe the suggestion 'We've boundless plains to share' when there's been no treaty or recognition of dispossession. When incarceration rates remain ridiculously high for Indigenous people it might be hard for them to sing 'let us all combine', especially considering the White Australia Policy and the Stolen Generation. But I think what offends more than the words is the singing of a song of patriotism when they don't feel that sense of patriotism. I don't think they find it easy to celebrate the state of the nation as it is today.

I think there maybe also a disconnect in what indigenous people view what a country is when compared to the other groups in our country. I think that with the connection to land that indigenous people feel that country to them is the land and belonging to that land is crucial in their understanding of what a country is. I think other groups in our country view our country as being about the people, values and beliefs put in place over the last 200 years. I think that maybe why they find the young part to be problematic because they have belonged to this land for a long time.

All this is only my opinion and I may be way off but I feel that the disconnect may come from different ways various cultures identify with country!