Ashley Klein gambling Problems

kiwitiger said:
Many players over the years have liked a punt on the nags.
Imagine putting in you can't have a day at the races. Many greats would not have been able to sign a contract.
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What you say is true but how many of those people are 400k in debt to bookmakers,bookmakers who could quite possibly take bets on NRL matches.In many peoples eyes a scenario like a bookie saying to Klein "Look you owe me 80k but i will take 15k off the debt if you get team "A" a win this week by 18 or more" the bookie lays the market and cleans up,this scenario may never have happened but you can not possibly say with any confidence that it is impossible.
Once a sport loses credibility you have massive problems and that is where we are at because of the inaction of the NRL at the time,the fact it was during the Turdberg era does not surprise me in the least.Simona got banned for stupid tiny bets yet a ref gets a clean slate for losing a massive amount.
 
BrissieTiger67 said:
As I understand it , irregular betting only gets picked up in the mainstream domestic betting markets where they have compliance/legal requirements. Plenty of overseas markets where the nrl and commission have no oversight. So no, we can't say there is no corruption.

The NRL has dropped the ball bad here on the first one. How is a gambling problem like this any different to an alcohol or drug addiction. It definitely impacts your performance. How could it not, you are a sports/racing gambler that rides wins and losses with an addictive and risk tendancy. That should not be the type of employee the nrl has in referees. Its not an indictment on Ashley, I've been there, it can grip you...but its not in the best interest of him to be in that high stakes sporting environment.
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especially when nrl are pushing to get a slice of the u.s.a. sportsbook market with the vegas deal
 
Rock Hopper Steve said:
I want his betting history revealed lol, maybe the infamous decision from the bunker a few seasons back he ruled in favour of the Cowboys at the death shows up on it.

Highly unlikely he'd be stupid enough to bet on the NRL, still, things that make you go hmm.
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Probably been concentrating more on selling match worn referees jerseys to support a charity.
 
Two big Ashley Klein controversial refereeing moments affecting the Wests Tigers for mine were
2018 – Tigers vs Broncos. In golden point, Klein penalised Robbie Rochow for not standing square at marker. The penalty allowed Brisbane to kick the winning goal. The NRL later admitted the penalty was incorrect, and Klein was subsequently demoted from lead referee duties for the following round.
And of course 2022 – Tigers vs Cowboys. The WTs appeared to have won. Klein ruled an escort penalty against Asu Kepaoa, giving the Cowboys a penalty shot after the siren. NRL head of football Graham Annesley later acknowledged the escort penalty decision was wrong.

I’m pretty sure Ashley Klein is in the bunker for tomorrows game against the Titians
 
Tigerwould said:
Two big Ashley Klein controversial refereeing moments affecting the Wests Tigers for mine were
2018 – Tigers vs Broncos. In golden point, Klein penalised Robbie Rochow for not standing square at marker. The penalty allowed Brisbane to kick the winning goal. The NRL later admitted the penalty was incorrect, and Klein was subsequently demoted from lead referee duties for the following round.
And of course 2022 – Tigers vs Cowboys. The WTs appeared to have won. Klein ruled an escort penalty against Asu Kepaoa, giving the Cowboys a penalty shot after the siren. NRL head of football Graham Annesley later acknowledged the escort penalty decision was wrong.

I’m pretty sure Ashley Klein is in the bunker for tomorrows game against the Titians
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I'm still vexed about that Robbie Rochow penalty. They never call penalties in golden point unless it's horrendous, yet then they were being strict? And Rochow was bloody square, the other guy walked off the mark and should have been penalised himself.
 
No individual is bigger, or more important, than the game.
To preserve the integrity of the game , there needs to be an in depth financial forensic investigation into his personal betting & banking + those of his wife, children, close family & friends + also the betting institutions/ individuals involved. This is not some minor indiscretion, it was up to $400k !!
He should be stood down pending the outcome of the above.
 
This is everything the NRL needed to take into account but didn’t as they allowed him to continue to referee

Sports integrity figures said players with serious gambling troubles left themselves open to coercion, but referees were on another level.

Dr Catherine Ordway, an expert on sports integrity and a visiting scholar at University of NSW in Canberra, said a referee with a gambling problem was “definitely a vulnerability”.

“We’re increasingly seeing players and officials being exploited by organised criminals when they have vulnerabilities,” she said.

“In a team sport environment, the referees and umpires have the biggest levers to influence not even just the outcome of the game but the micro-elements of the game that can be bet on.
 
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