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**Tim Sheens calls on Kangaroo debutants**
By Andrew Webster in London From:
The Daily Telegraph October 22, 2009
BRETT Morris started the season in reserve grade. Ben Hannant was the new kid at a new club. And as for Brett White, he didn't know if he would play football again.
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Yet today, those dark and uncertain days seem an eternity away after the trio received the game's ultimate reward - Test selection for the Australian Kangaroos.
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They are the new faces in a revamped side for the opening Test match of the Four Nations tournament against New Zealand at The Stoop, Twickenham, on Saturday. (NZ have just named their team - see below)
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Hannant will start at prop, Morris will partner Jarryd Hayne on the wings and White has found his way on to the bench.
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The other notable selections are Storm forward Ryan Hoffman and Penrith's Trent Waterhouse forming a new back-row combination with Manly dynamo Anthony Watmough ahead of Cronulla's Paul Gallen, who has been pushed on to the bench.
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White's blazing finish to the year, which ended in a premiership with the Storm and selection in the Kangaroos' 24-man squad that forced his wedding to fiancee Cassie Adland to be rescheduled, just keeps on going after he was named as an interchange player.
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It's timely to remember that he missed the first six rounds of the competition after he underwent agonising surgery on both big toes for his arthritis.
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"I truly had doubts whether I would be playing footy again,'' White said. "I certainly had my own demons in my head telling me I might not get back on the field. I was supposed to be back to 100 per cent but I couldn't even walk in runners, let alone run.
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"But I kept working through it. Things started slow, but it's finishing really good for me. A premiership … and now I'm here in London.''
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You bet he is. So is Morris.
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He played the first two matches of the season in Premier League, has never played senior rep footy and was gifted a call-up to this squad when Israel Folau pulled out through injury. Now he's about to wear the green and gold.
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"And before my brother,'' he said of his twin brother Josh, who was pushing him for the wing position. He was very excited, but he's a little bit pissed off that I'll make my debut before him. He made his Origin debut before me. So I've trumped him. But being family, he's very proud of me.
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"If you had told me that I would be playing for Australia this year, I would've said you were an idiot and walked away. Mate, it's been a fair ride this year.''
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Then there's Hannant, who took the bold step of leaving the warm bosom of the Broncos to join last year's wooden spooners the Bulldogs.
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The non-drinking, non-swearing Mormon who doesn't so much break the mould of the typical front-rower but snaps it over his huge thigh.
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Like White, Hannant had to make sacrifices to be here. He had to part with his family of wife Emma and three young children. His baby daughter, Mia, is only a month old.
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"Being selected has a lot to do with the off-field stuff,'' he said. "I'm very happy at home, I've got a great family. All you hope for as a player is your opportunity - I'm not going to let this position go.''
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Australian team:
1\. Billy Slater
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2\. Brett Morris
3\. Greg Inglis
4\. Justin Hodges
5\. Jarryd Hayne
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6\. Darren Lockyer (c)
7\. Johnathan Thurston
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8\. Ben Hannant
9\. Cameron Smith
10\. Petero Civoniceva
11\. Anthony Watmough
12\. Trent Waterhouse
13\. Ryan Hoffman
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Bench
14\. Brett White
15\. Sam Thaiday
16\. Paul Gallen
17\. Kurt Gidley
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New Zealand rugby league team named today to play Australia in the Four Nations match at The Stoop in London on Saturday night:
Kiwis:
1\. Lance Hohaia
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2\. Sam Perrett
3\. Steve Matai
4\. Junior Sa'u
5\. Bryson Goodwin
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6\. Benji Marshall (capt)
7.Nathan Fien
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8\. Jeff Lima
9\. Issac Luke
10\. Fuifui Moimoi
11\. Bronson Harrison
12\. Frank Pritchard
13.Adam Blair
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Interchange:
14\. Thomas Leuluai
15\. Frank-Paul Nuuausala
16\. Iosia Soliola
17\. Jared Waerea-Hargreaves
18\. Kieran Foran
19\. Ben Matulino (two to be omitted)
 
I'm reasonably happy with the side except for White and Hoffman.

I'm not sure about injury situations but I'd throw Douglas in for White (Even though Douglas isnt in the squad) and Stagg for Hoffman.

Besides that I think its a pretty fair side.
 
I dont think Hoffman or Waterhouse should even be in the 17
Id much rather have Gallen in the starting side and Creagh to the bench
 
<big>Gallen, :laughing: mate ,he has to be one of the worst forwards going round,how does this guy get to play 4 AUSTRALIA. Dead set bone head..</big>
 
White and Hoffman were questionable selections in the squad, so they are of course, questionable when they make the side. I still don't understand how they can leave Creagh out of the side. Happy for young Brett Morris though, deserves his selection 100%.
 
:laughing: you found out how to change the colour and font size..

It's called incumbancy…...It's been going on for Years and it's unlikely to change in the future......How do you explain Lockyer and Gidley.........

Creagh should be there ..........but a bit hard when Bozo, Macarthy et al have their favorites....
 
@Geo. said:
:laughing: you found out how to change the colour and font size..

It's called incumbancy…...It's been going on for Years and it's unlikely to change in the future......How do you explain Lockyer and Gidley.........

Creagh should be there ..........but a bit hard when Bozo, Macarthy et al have their favorites....

Lockyer is the captain, and if we are down by 2 points with 5 minutes to go, I'd want him in my side ahead of any current player. Incumbancy is a joke for this squad. We LOST the last series, the side was NOT good enough, why do they get a free ride again.
 
@Marshall_magic said:
@Geo. said:
:laughing: you found out how to change the colour and font size..

It's called incumbancy…...It's been going on for Years and it's unlikely to change in the future......How do you explain Lockyer and Gidley.........

Creagh should be there ..........but a bit hard when Bozo, Macarthy et al have their favorites....

Lockyer is the captain, and if we are down by 2 points with 5 minutes to go, I'd want him in my side ahead of any current player. Incumbancy is a joke for this squad. We LOST the last series, the side was NOT good enough, why do they get a free ride again.

Thats just a tad harsh there mashall, we were the most dominant side in the world cup - easily the best team but put in a 6 out of 10 performance in the game that mattered. These guys deserve the right to avenge that loss.

Tomcat, Gallen is in the side because he is a big mongrel enforcer…every side has one, every side needs one, he does his job.
 
@Marshall_magic said:
@Geo. said:
:laughing: you found out how to change the colour and font size..

It's called incumbancy…...It's been going on for Years and it's unlikely to change in the future......How do you explain Lockyer and Gidley.........

Creagh should be there ..........but a bit hard when Bozo, Macarthy et al have their favorites....

Lockyer is the captain, and if we are down by 2 points with 5 minutes to go, I'd want him in my side ahead of any current player. Incumbancy is a joke for this squad. We LOST the last series, the side was NOT good enough, why do they get a free ride again.

No I think after that Test Match…..... I'd want Inglis everytime..........

Agree Stryker...6 may be a bit high.....
 
@Geo. said:
@Marshall_magic said:
@Geo. said:
:laughing: you found out how to change the colour and font size..

It's called incumbancy…...It's been going on for Years and it's unlikely to change in the future......How do you explain Lockyer and Gidley.........

Creagh should be there ..........but a bit hard when Bozo, Macarthy et al have their favorites....

Lockyer is the captain, and if we are down by 2 points with 5 minutes to go, I'd want him in my side ahead of any current player. Incumbancy is a joke for this squad. We LOST the last series, the side was NOT good enough, why do they get a free ride again.

No I think after that Test Match…..... I'd want Inglis everytime..........

Agree Stryker...6 may be a bit high.....

Inglis would be handy, but Lockyer has won so many rep games in his career at the death.

I don't think 6 is to high, but the bottom line is, they didn't get the job done, therefore they shouldn't all get their spots given to them, and they should be made to work for them.
 
That side was a Sheens special. 1 prop on the bench and play a 2nd row as a prop (Thaiday). He just can't help himself.

Waterhouse, Hoffman, Gallen and Gidley are all a waste of space.
 

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