Beau ryan has to go

You would break up Lawrence and Tuiaki to repace Ryan and bring in a player(Collis) who struggles when he comes back from injury and won't even be here next year…..Genius Z

I'm glad Sheens picks the team this week.....

I really fear for Beau Ryan....with Fitzy long gone, Morris,Collis, gone......Beau better turn into Peter Diamond or he is in for one hell of a year....
 
Ryan has a go most weeks and snags the occasional try but he's never scored one from pure speed. He just doesn't have it, despite his size and build suggesting he should be pretty quick. Not sure if he'll get dropped before seasons end either. I would like to see Pritchard given a go, but Ryan isn't costing us any games and despite his lack of pace, he's making decent metres each week which is probably keeping him safe.

I think next season will definitely be different with Daniela and Brown on board, and hopefully a fully fit Tupou.
 
He takes one hit up every set, he is in the face of the other team and super competitive on the other hand he has at least one brain explosion a game and usually a couple of errors.

My guess he is pretty popular member of the team, he is usually the first to give a mate a back slap or a gee up and I think the other teams hate him. Iam probably the one in tiger town who think he goes okay of course with the exception of coach Sheens. Old balmain people will remember Johnny Davidson, I think Ryan is very similar.
 
@Danos said:
I wouldn't be dropping Ryan. He's solid but unspectacular and I'll settle for that at the moment. He & Ayshford defend well together. I'm not a huge Beau Ryan fan and while I can think of half of dozen players I'd rather see on the wing.. now isn't the time. It isn't broke, don't fix it.

Agreed…
 
He played ok. He is pretty safe under the high ball. I wish we could give him acceleration like Gallant. Than we would have something. Ayshford is capable of creating opportunities but there is no point passing the ball to a winger as deprived of pace as Ryan.

But, as others have said, it is a dolid structure in defence on that side so it may not be wise to mess with it
 
@Zaibatsu said:
Yep Ryan is letting us down badly.

Bring Collis back in and shift Lawrence to the wing. I've always thought Lawrence's best games were on the wing anyway.

1\. Gallant
2\. Tuiaki
3\. Ayshford
4\. Collis
5\. Lawrence

thats because lawrence is better on the wing Z. i cant believe he was ever moved from there. thats a good 1-5\. i like it. maybe pritchard instead on collis if collis doesnt play well but i would be happy with that backline with benji at 6 and moltzen at 7.
 
@Zaibatsu said:
@Golden said:
on the wing on the other side?? you gotta be kidding all the attack goes down the other side what a waste he would be out there

The attack always goes down Tuiaki's side because BEAU RYAN is on the other side… Why be predictable when you can add another dimension?

Options :sunglasses:

The attack goes down Tuiaki's side because Lawrence is our best attacking weapon and plays more naturally on the left hand side of the field and because Marshall is more comfortable passing from right to left. I think the left hand attack attack has also benefited from having Ellis playing on that side of the field, rather than Heighington. This combination of Marshall > Ellis > Lawrence > Tuiaki makes for a potent combination.

The attack would be stifled if you stuck Lawrence out on the lonely right hand wing.
 
@tigerman69 said:
super coach maybe except for the biff where johnno was second to none judging by what i saw over his career.

Aparently Ryan is not a bad pugilist either
 
Some of you guys are a bit harsh on him.
He has some skill and ticker and you can't have superstars everywhere.
And it can't be easy being at the end of benjis left to right passes.
 
@Colonel said:
The attack goes down Tuiaki's side because Lawrence is our best attacking weapon and plays more naturally on the left hand side of the field and because Marshall is more comfortable passing from right to left. I think the left hand attack attack has also benefited from having Ellis playing on that side of the field, rather than Heighington. This combination of Marshall Ellis Lawrence Tuiaki makes for a potent combination.

The attack would be stifled if you stuck Lawrence out on the lonely right hand wing.

That side with those players is real good. It should be left as is. The issue is trying to get the other side to also offer something without moving any of those players to the other side.
 
Dont you think if Sheens thought there was someone better than ryan he would use him. As for moveing lawerence for get it
 
@alien said:
@Zaibatsu said:
Yep Ryan is letting us down badly.

Bring Collis back in and shift Lawrence to the wing. I've always thought Lawrence's best games were on the wing anyway.

1\. Gallant
2\. Tuiaki
3\. Ayshford
4\. Collis
5\. Lawrence

thats because lawrence is better on the wing Z. i cant believe he was ever moved from there. thats a good 1-5\. i like it. maybe pritchard instead on collis if collis doesnt play well but i would be happy with that backline with benji at 6 and moltzen at 7.

why would you move our best centre out of position and onto the wing???? Lawerance needs to see as much of the ball as possible. Its no surprise we favours that side of the field when our best attacking weapons in Marshall, Lawerance and TNT spend all there time out there.
 
@tiger05 said:
@Colonel said:
The attack goes down Tuiaki's side because Lawrence is our best attacking weapon and plays more naturally on the left hand side of the field and because Marshall is more comfortable passing from right to left. I think the left hand attack attack has also benefited from having Ellis playing on that side of the field, rather than Heighington. This combination of Marshall Ellis Lawrence Tuiaki makes for a potent combination.

The attack would be stifled if you stuck Lawrence out on the lonely right hand wing.

The issue is trying to get the other side to also offer something without moving any of those players to the other side.

I agree, but I don't think we should move Lawrence to achieve that…
 
@Alan Sharsh said:
@alien said:
@Zaibatsu said:
Yep Ryan is letting us down badly.

Bring Collis back in and shift Lawrence to the wing. I've always thought Lawrence's best games were on the wing anyway.

1\. Gallant
2\. Tuiaki
3\. Ayshford
4\. Collis
5\. Lawrence

thats because lawrence is better on the wing Z. i cant believe he was ever moved from there. thats a good 1-5\. i like it. maybe pritchard instead on collis if collis doesnt play well but i would be happy with that backline with benji at 6 and moltzen at 7.

why would you move our best centre out of position and onto the wing???? Lawerance needs to see as much of the ball as possible. Its no surprise we favours that side of the field when our best attacking weapons in Marshall, Lawerance and TNT spend all there time out there.

lawrence on the wing in his first proper season with us scored 16 tries from 18 games, he hasnt produced those scoring feats since, but i believe he is a far superior player, but he doesnt really see that much ball in the centres anyway so why not put him on the other wing, to give us potency on both sides of the park, honestly id rather him at fullback more then any other position but maybe wing is the go for him

Gallant
tuiaki
collis
ayshford
Lawrence

it wont happen but it wouldnt disadvantage the team any by doing it
 
@anderson silva said:
lawrence on the wing in his first proper season with us scored 16 tries from 18 games, he hasnt produced those scoring feats since, but i believe he is a far superior player, but he doesnt really see that much ball in the centres anyway so why not put him on the other wing, to give us potency on both sides of the park, honestly id rather him at fullback more then any other position but maybe wing is the go for him

Gallant
tuiaki
collis
ayshford
Lawrence

it wont happen but it wouldnt disadvantage the team any by doing it

It wont happen because it's wrong….Bzzzzzt...How many tries has Tuiaki scored this year....he benefited yesterday thanks to Chris....We won't get potancy on both sides of the park cause Benji attacks best right to left always has.....

In most games I've watched this year Lawrence and Tui often switch in attack and on some set plays so all you Lawry on the wing groupies.....you get the best of both worlds....Lawrence is the best defencive back we have....wow never thought I'd say that....too shuffle him for Ryan.....dumb

Moltzen is attacking left to right now funnily enough his natural game as well...he built a pretty good relationship with Ayshford in the 20's they had some nice go to plays...One split the Cows.....more wil come....
 
@anderson silva said:
lawrence on the wing in his first proper season with us scored 16 tries from 18 games, he hasnt produced those scoring feats since, but i believe he is a far superior player, but he doesnt really see that much ball in the centres anyway so why not put him on the other wing, to give us potency on both sides of the park, honestly id rather him at fullback more then any other position but maybe wing is the go for him

Gallant
tuiaki
collis
ayshford
Lawrence

it wont happen but it wouldnt disadvantage the team any by doing it

I've said it before, Lawrence is not going to suddenly see the ball more just because you stick him on the right wing, because our dominant players are all on the left hand side and because Marshall is at his most effective when passing from right to left.

Stick Lawrence on the right hand wing and he will not see the ball.

I agree the right side could use more potency. But to achieve this we should promote a junior winger like Pritchard and strengthen the right hand side, not try and weaken a dominant left hand side.
 
These people calling for Lawrence to be put out on the right wing… are probably the same ones that are onto Sheens' back for moving Moltzen to 7 a little late... which to me proves that they really have no idea...

Lawrence is our best centre... why in hell would we even contemplate moving him????
Yes he'd probably go well on the right wing (if he ever saw any ball), but why weaken 1 position significantly just to strengthen a lesser utilised position in our teams make up??????????

& by the way Moltzen has flourished at 7 because of the confidence gained by playing 1st grade all season & earlier in the season it was way too early to shift him there...
 
By the way Moltzen has flourished at 7 because of the confidence gained by playing 1st grade all season & earlier in the season it was way too early to shift him there…

Not to have a direct go at you but how do you know this was the case? Moltzen always seemed pretty confident (To me) as soon as he entered first grade, yet people are stating the same thing you have as if it is fact.
 

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