Ben Te'o, a study in loyalty!

I just remember him trying to get his face on the footy show a few times on little segments about him. Thought he was a star. Massive ego on the guy, that's why people don't like him.
 
He could certainly play but as showed at the end of his time with us he could "dog it" better than anyone else.Real pea heart if he wanted to be
 
Just have a look at how many former Tigers who got a run in the NYC & NSWCup did the rounds of the DownerAuckland 9's and you just have to wonder how much of an attachment that some players apply themselves to the club that get's them the big break?.
Just how many of our former players were considered worthy of a contract extension?, how many were expendable and how many slipped under the radar?, are we a production line for other clubs?
 
The name Ben Te'o still gets a reaction!

I guess that loyalty only exists these days in the minds of tragics like us! In my opinion, though it cheapens both rugby games for it to be so easy to jump from one country to another. There's a lot of money in British and French Rugby, ask Mark Gasnier, SBW. And after a winning try against France, Ben's value would have just skyrocketed. He plays in the centres, by the way, and he's the size of the Burgess's but faster.
 
Interesting how people never forgive a player for looking after themselves.

I wonder whether same people would be as worried about loyalty if they were offered a significant pay rise to change jobs.

Im generally dirty on players when it happens but hasn't it been like 6 to 8 years since Teo left us?

He seems to have done alright for himself and I say good luck to him. Football is a bloody short career and very few of these guys are able to make successful post-football career transitions.

The very sad circumstances of Chad Robinson highlight how retirement can affect these blokes.

I suspect that, rather than being any more disloyal than anybody else, Teo has just been a bit smarter about looking after himself.
 
I remember the game at ANZ around 2008 when Parra absolutely smashed us, we had a horror injury toll esp in the forwards, already and to make matters worse Danny Galea was playing prop, he tore his Achilles I think early in the game. Bronson Harrison was the other starting prop and we just had kids on the bench.

Anyway I remember Te'o being given the ball about 20 m from our line, he passed it, didn't want to get smashed by the Parra defence, blokes like Hindmarsh lining up to smash him. I was sitting behind Dawn Fraser that day, she spent the whole match shaking her head.

I respect a player who at least puts in even when the team is getting smashed. But to dog it when your team-mates are doing it tough, I just couldn't see him as anything but a cat from that moment onwards. I think he ended up signing with Broncos not long afterwards.
 
Don't care that he looked after himself, the players have to look after themselves, the managers and clubs don't/won't. His poor form that coincided with the negotiations was however, ordinary to say the least.
 
I'll never forgive him for what he did to Matt Groat…potentially our greatest ever Prop..
 
@batboy said:
@Geo. said:
I'll never forgive him for what he did to Matt Groat…potentially our greatest ever Prop..

So you've forgiven Matt Groat for what he did to Kevin Lock?

Well Locke is a Kiwi and now plays for Manly so I would probably give him a Medal..
 
- For giving him a penalty tap and being too lazy to tackle him…
Effectively losing us the '11 Semi
 
ben teo is the player who put in the most pea hearted performances ive ever seen in a wests tigers jersey, and thats saying something considering the competition he has. the guy always had enormous talent and would walk into our starting pack, but i would rather have fitzhenry and rankin in the backrow then him. some of teo's highlights were:

* being abused by his own team mates for being pathetic in a loss to the warriors

* against parra at anz stadium when both our starting props went off injured and we were getting pumped. he picks up the ball from dummyhalf, runs 20m sideways, is about to tackled and flings the ball wildly to hodgo who gets smashed, drops it and parra score

* we lost to the broncos by 1 after he missed a tackle for a try and gave away the penalty that got the broncos the field goal he was torn to shreds on the forum (actually might have been LU). he went into the tigers offices and demanded that they contact the forum and have the negative posts about him removed

* getting seven shades of sh*t beaten out of him by corey payne at mad monday, still one of the best stories ive ever heard hahaa
 
@happy tiger said:
@bathursttiger said:
@westTAHger said:
Yeah probably the 2nd worst attempted tackle I've seen WT's player attempt to make

Nick Graham still holds that title , and I reckon he will hold that title until they carry me off in a big wooden box

You're forgetting Robert Lui who would deliberately move out of position so he wouldn't be expected to make a tackle. Some people noticed.
 
@batboy said:
@Geo. said:
I'll never forgive him for what he did to Matt Groat…potentially our greatest ever Prop..

So you've forgiven Matt Groat for what he did to Kevin Lock?

What are you talking about Geo

Groat was the marquee signing for the CQ Capras for 2017
 
@batboy said:
- For giving him a penalty tap and being too lazy to tackle him…
Effectively losing us the '11 Semi

Marshall and Farah running it on the last with a minute left effectively lost us the '11 semi
 
@Twodogs said:
@happy tiger said:
@bathursttiger said:
@westTAHger said:
Yeah probably the 2nd worst attempted tackle I've seen WT's player attempt to make

Nick Graham still holds that title , and I reckon he will hold that title until they carry me off in a big wooden box

You're forgetting Robert Lui who would deliberately move out of position so he wouldn't be expected to make a tackle. Some people noticed.

Nick Graham literally stepped out of Riddell's way to let him score from a penalty tap
 
An interesting/funny article on MSN about Ben Te'o and North Korea

"There are those who perceive modern rugby players to be one-dimensional giants who sit around dissecting their last weights session. This lazy stereotype is now officially history following the news that two England squad members have been pondering the situation in North Korea and are contemplating a visit to Pyongyang to investigate further.
England’s Six Nations’ trip to Cardiff is dominating most people’s thoughts but when Jonny May and Ben Te’o meet for coffee Saturday’s fixture barely gets a mention. “Me and him have been watching a lot of documentaries on North Korea … that’s what he’s quite interested in,” says Te’o, England’s match-winning tryscorer against France.
“We’ve had quite a few chats and coffees about how we can fix the situation there. There’s a lot that needs to be done. Jonny said: ‘We need to go before things get really bad.’ I said: ‘I don’t know if it’s worth it, it’s quite dangerous.’ But he said: ‘I’m pretty keen on it.’ Maybe we’ll be reporting to you live from North Korea in the summer.”
May and Te’o have a way to go before Kim Jong-un accedes to any human rights proposals from the pair, although the former American basketball player Dennis Rodman has enjoyed an audience with the North Korea leader. The Rugby Football Union may be less keen on an impromptu summit being arranged but, either way, Te’o is impressed with May’s unconventional take on world affairs. “Jonny? Yeah. He’s interesting. I like being around him. I like talking to him about what he gets up to and what he’s thinking. Share a car ride with Jonny and you’ll learn a lot about him and what he’s into.”
What can be said with confidence is the England dressing room is increasingly home to an eclectic bunch, ranging from the zany May and the Lego obsessive Jack Nowell to the ebullient James Haskell. Te’o, as a relatively new squad member, reckons this is a major positive: “The best thing about a team like this is that everyone’s different but everyone feels comfortable being themselves in the environment. I enjoy bumping around and interacting with different guys and learning about them.”
Te’o fetched up at Worcester via New Zealand, Australia and Ireland, having represented Samoa at rugby league. The powerful centre, previously at Leinster, was once photographed wearing an Ireland union jersey but has an English mother and brushes aside suggestions of split loyalties. “I think I was in a sports store and we were trying on a load of different jerseys,” he says. “At the time I was playing for Leinster … the guys who were on that team who understand my personality would know what I was doing. I’m not really worried about that to be honest.”
His extensive travels, which have included stints with Wests Tigers, Brisbane Broncos and the South Sydney Rabbitohs where he was a team-mate of the one-time England union convert Sam Burgess, have left him unfazed by the prospect of a trip to a seething Principality Stadium. “If you’re going down to Sydney [with Queensland] to play the Blues in a decider, yeah, it’s full-on. Just really intense. A nice loud crowd – I’m not foreign to it.”
Te’o has yet to start a Test for England and is conscious of the need to be patient rather than complaining about his bench status. “You’ve just got to be patient. Eddie’s talked to me about that. It’s not about me trying to say: ‘I want more minutes, I want to start.’ It’s about doing what’s right for the team. The team’s going in a really good direction; it’s about contributing to that.”
Although he remains in contact with Burgess, now back at South Sydney, the pair have not discussed their respective union fortunes. “We’re in a WhatsApp group with a few old team-mates but it’s more general chat than rugby. I still chat with him but it’s never about rugby or our careers.”
The try against France, according to statisticians, was the quickest scored by a Six Nations debutant but Te’o says he knew his decision to come to union was a good one long before last Saturday: “The main thing for me would be meeting different people along the way.
“I’ve got a lot of good friends dotted all round Europe through rugby and that wouldn’t be there if I’d never come. I think I’ve learned a lot from travelling as well. Those are the reasons that make it worthwhile.”
His only slight concern are the vision awareness tests the backs are being asked to do, with his team-mate Mike Brown revealing Te’o had finished last initially. “I had a dodgy keyboard on the first day and then my mouse was playing up,” the 30-year-old says with a smile. “Look, I was down the bottom, I’ll admit it, but I’m slowly climbing. I think I’m in sixth place now out of 14 backs. I don’t think they waste their time with the forwards.”
England may or may not win in Cardiff but they are in good humour off the field"
 
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