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Who will be attempting to slow the ruck defensively with Taylor on an edge…A 20 yo Rookie...?
Bench 2018
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Who will be attempting to slow the ruck defensively with Taylor on an edge…A 20 yo Rookie...?
Tweed_Tiger
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McIlwrick isnt signed is he?
earl
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I like the idea of a big forward in the middle but Taylor does so much quality work for us defensively in the middle it's going to be hard to move him.
swag_tiger
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Verbally agreed to a 2 year deal and just has to sign on the line now.
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The idea isn't that ET plays an edge the whole 80.
Matulino and Packer are good at controlling the ruck in the first rotation. When they sub Twal subs as well and ET moves to lock with Marsters coming in on the edge. McIlwrick also comes on during that period to help bolster the defence up the middle.
ET taking on a lighter load during the 30 odd minutes that Marsters is on should help him last the 80 without being busted at the end.
greatodensraven
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I'd go with a bench of:
14\. Sue
15\. Twal
16\. Felise
17\. Marsters
based on a starting 13 of:
1\. Tui
2\. Nofo
3\. Suli
4\. Milne
5, Rona
6\. Reynolds
7\. Brooks
8\. Matulino
9\. Liddle
10\. Packer
11\. McQueen
12\. ET
13\. Aloiai
All depends on whether Liddle can play 80 mins next year. That gives us plenty of depth with the likes of Grant, Lawrence, MWZ, MCK, MMc & Kev (if he re-signs) to cover if need-be.
I'd still like us to sign another experience prop & strike back-rower though.
14\. Sue
15\. Twal
16\. Felise
17\. Marsters
based on a starting 13 of:
1\. Tui
2\. Nofo
3\. Suli
4\. Milne
5, Rona
6\. Reynolds
7\. Brooks
8\. Matulino
9\. Liddle
10\. Packer
11\. McQueen
12\. ET
13\. Aloiai
All depends on whether Liddle can play 80 mins next year. That gives us plenty of depth with the likes of Grant, Lawrence, MWZ, MCK, MMc & Kev (if he re-signs) to cover if need-be.
I'd still like us to sign another experience prop & strike back-rower though.
momo_amp_medo
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None of the above.
We are 1 x prop and 1 x back row (experienced) forward short of completing our worthwhile bench.
That will make it really competitive …..
Not sold on Marsters, Felise, Twal ..... they are yet to show their worth. May happen but you can't bank on that. Say you have Packer & Matulino injured .... ???
We are 1 x prop and 1 x back row (experienced) forward short of completing our worthwhile bench.
That will make it really competitive …..
Not sold on Marsters, Felise, Twal ..... they are yet to show their worth. May happen but you can't bank on that. Say you have Packer & Matulino injured .... ???
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I'll watch more closely but to me Matulino and Packer are hitters rather than controllers of the ruck that job normally falls to Mannering and De Bellin in their respective teams..I would also like their minutes to increase on what they currently do…Taylor also does an enormous amount of clean up work currently but hopefully that changes next year with personel changes...We are still light on for a worker Prop...Twal seems to have that ability but it's a huge ask for a Rookie in what will be his debut season week to week in the NRL..
GNR4LIFE
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Geez mate, you said it would be announced by the end of last week. What's going on?
swag_tiger
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It was stated on fox sports last Friday.
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Matulino does a lot of work on the ground (watch his second stint from last weekend) and Packer just tends to physically dominate in tackles which slows the ruck in itself. They're both at about 50 minutes over recent weeks and we shouldn't really require much more from them. The Titans are wasting Ryan James for example by playing him 60 or 70 minutes, it's destroyed his effectiveness in attack. Packer and Matulino are also late 20's on contracts running a couple of years so we don't really want to risk injury by stretching them out to long minutes as part of the ordinary gameplan.
If Twal were trying to fill the defensive role that ET performs this season I would agree that he'd have no chance, but I think he'll have an easier time of things playing alongside Matulino and Packer. He will just need to go out and do what he does - get involved in plenty of tackles and take plenty of hit ups.
Assuming that you want ET at lock and Matulino and Packer playing big minutes - why do you think we would need a worker prop?
earl
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We don't need any more workers. We need some players that are going to have an impact. I'm not sure that there are any out there at the moment.
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Joe ofengauie, sitaleki akoulia, vete are imoact props. The big question is where do we play Aloaia? He went well lasf year but is now too big and less mobile for 2nd row. More suuted to prop or lock. Why cant he and Twal switch at lock over the game? Leaves Taylor at 2nd row for 80 minutes.
earl
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Aloia is a prop/lock forward. I think he has to play in the middle and I think he will be one of our better forwards if given that role. He isn't consistent but he can play.
Taylor on the edge for 80 minutes may work. It might tighten up our defence on that right edge as well. I can see a right edge of Reynolds, Taylor, Suli and Nofo hopefully not leaking points next year.
Taylor on the edge for 80 minutes may work. It might tighten up our defence on that right edge as well. I can see a right edge of Reynolds, Taylor, Suli and Nofo hopefully not leaking points next year.
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Thinking of more how it is now once our starting Props are rotated..as regards to minutes one of Matulino or Packer need to play a longer 1st stint than they currently do not necessarily total minutes is what I meant…People can bag Woods but he can pull a big first stint and generally most weeks when he is replaced is where the trouble begins as the current replacements of Grant and Sue are offering very little in terms of impact or work rate...
I agree with you on Twal but to me that is what we need as a 1st change Prop a bloke who will go out there and get involved be that worker...We then need the impact to come from an Aloiai Sue or Felise....that is not really happening now tho...
As for Elijah...We also need more from our back row...I just don't see what extra impact he would give in attack on an edge that would balance out the strength of his defence in the middle of the field....so I would leave him where he is and look to do something about our edge back rowers impact...
teddy23
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11\. Chris McQueen
12\. Josh Alioia
13\. Elijah Taylor
14\. Brenton Lawrence/ Albert Vete
15\. Alex Twal
16\. Esan Masters
17\. JJ Felise
As much as I respect Lawrence as a player…..... Imo he isn't a top 17 player, we shouldn't be picking him on the basis of being a veteran.
12\. Josh Alioia
13\. Elijah Taylor
14\. Brenton Lawrence/ Albert Vete
15\. Alex Twal
16\. Esan Masters
17\. JJ Felise
As much as I respect Lawrence as a player…..... Imo he isn't a top 17 player, we shouldn't be picking him on the basis of being a veteran.
Cosimo_Zaretti
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Time for an 80 minute hooker to free up a bench spot?
