GNR4LIFE
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Anyway he has 2 yrs to run on his contract. TWO YEARS!!!! The way everyone, including the man himself is carrying on you could be forgiven for thinking he's off contract at the end of the yr. Sick of it.
Benji "I've got to weigh up all my options"
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happy_tiger
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@Abraham said:
and what about the lack of respect Benji has shown by not putting anything on the line until his contract negotiations started to take a direction he didn't like
cuts both ways , your paid to do a job and if you choose not to live up to your end of the bargain you take the risk of things going pear shaped
@happy tiger said:
That's a question you should ask the board. However unless there is a performance clause in his contract, then that is irrelevant.
Its not like he has hit a sudden rough patch of form, he has been playing like this for 18 months now! Yet the Board still promised him he would be getting a pay rise and extension.
If this was your boss offering you a bucket load of money and then changing his mind for no reason, im sure you wouldn't smile and kiss his backside in return.
hammertime
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That's the thing - he's all about preaching loyalty, but it sounds like he isn't even going to honor his existing contract if he doesn't get a resigning 2 years in advance whilst playing like a busted.
I'm tired of the prima donna attitude. He isn't a Johnathan Thurston, a Cam Smith or a Robbie Farah who have gotten better with age. He hasn't earned the right to demand anything.
Let him walk. Brooks in 7 and Moses/Siro in 6.
I'm tired of the prima donna attitude. He isn't a Johnathan Thurston, a Cam Smith or a Robbie Farah who have gotten better with age. He hasn't earned the right to demand anything.
Let him walk. Brooks in 7 and Moses/Siro in 6.
We have stuffed up negotiations with Moltzen (who should be playing for the Dragons right now), with Beau Ryan (which led to him leaving), with Sheens (who we are still paying), and now with Marshall.
Aside from Parra, are we the most amateurish Board in the comp when it comes to contract negotiations?
Aside from Parra, are we the most amateurish Board in the comp when it comes to contract negotiations?
GNR4LIFE
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@pHyR3 said:
And all Wests have to do is deny him cos he's under contract.
tig_prmz
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@hammertime said:
Except for the last line I agree with you 100%
Going out to the papers and saying how big he is by taking paycuts. Not good.
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Beau left to follow Heighno. Regardless of what he said at the time his subsequent interviews have talked about he and Chris' pact to always play together. F#$k that guy
Back to topic it is another contract negotiation another time where he brings up Rugby. Call this guys bluff for once Wests Tigers
Back to topic it is another contract negotiation another time where he brings up Rugby. Call this guys bluff for once Wests Tigers
@smeghead said:
He wanted to sign a long time before Heighno was granted the release.
They agreed to terms, they shook hands, it was a done deal …. oops someone forgot the minor detail of offering him a fricken contract!
That's what I am talking about, its not how professional outfits should be run.
happy_tiger
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The concern has to be all this off field stuff has got to impact on the on field stuff
C'mon guys focus on the Sharks Fire up Tigers
C'mon guys focus on the Sharks Fire up Tigers
@hammertime said:
Just about sums it up. Time to walk the talk. If he wants the upgrade, he should put his money where his mouth is and perform for the next two years instead of having a new article in the paper every second day playing this whole affair out like a soap opera.
What I can't understand is the attitudes of people who are happy to see him get top dollar while he under-performs just to keep him in our colours. What sort of message does that send out to the playing group?
This is all his own doing. The club does not have an obligation to resign him two years in advance simply on the some preconceived notion of loyalty.
"Loyalty" is what has put this club in the proverbial.
TIGERS
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@hybrid_tiger said:
Yeah I would. He's a proven winner, and is devoted to this club.
Thurston is supposedly the best half in the game… (but look at where the Cowboys are atm??) He's just been resigned at 29 years old for 5 million over 4 seasons! Maybe he's not as good as Thurston..(he did beat him in 05 Final and in the World Cup Final & Tri Series Final and All Stars match however....)
He's as good as Todd Carney
He's as good as Cherry Evans
He's as good as John Sutton
He's better than Mitchell Pearce
He's better than Peter Wallace
He's better than Scott Prince
He's better than Jarrod Mullen
He's better than Jamie Soward.
He's better than Luke Walsh
He's better thank Chris Sandow
He's one of the best. He's been loyal to the club for a decade. He was never like Hayne or Dugan or Carney and got lost on the sauce. He never beat up his GF, or took drugs. He's had to come back from injury after injury and had people doubting him the whole time when we struggled from 2006-2009\. He's got us sponsors, raised the profile of the club. If we was that greedy he wouldve done a SBW or Folau ages ago and whored himself out to the highest bidder after we won the Comp. Even now he cannot bring himself to consider playing against us, such is his love and passion for WT.
I don't trust the Wests Tigers record in handling of key player contracts and recruitment. This club is guilty of always thinking that whatever replacements come in are always going to work. They suck at it. **They do**. They really really suck at buying and keeping players. Don't blame Sheens, Don't blame humpty, don't blame Mcdonnell. Wests Tigers just aint good at it.
If Wests Tigers have such an eye about Juniors, and can tell that Brooks and Moses are a sure thing... Why have we bought Pat Richards when we already have Koro, Simona and Nofo already on our books. Hmmmm? It doesn't add up... What if Simona goes to the Sharks?? Why was he left unsigned for next year when he can run in 104 meter tries against the Premiers?
Anyway I'm ranting. But thats just how I see things.
Black_n_White
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Tigers, how about you look at the other side of the coin. First off, Richards is a dead eye goal kicker, machine boot all round, and at a time when we are rookied up to the eyeballs, has all the the earmarks of a senior player who can guide a few of these touted kids through their blossoming carrers, he is a winger/fullback and played some centre, he is the perfect mentor.
On to Benji, If he keeps on the track he seems to be going, we will resign him in 2 yrs, it wouldnt make sense not to. So what is his beef?the extension? If he is good enough, we will be stupid not to keep him. So sign…. If he is value for 5 yrs he will get his extension. Its that simple. Either he thinks he will ride out the rest of his career for 5 yrs lucky to have the contract, or he will be an asset to be too good to let go... Shows his mind set really.
On to Benji, If he keeps on the track he seems to be going, we will resign him in 2 yrs, it wouldnt make sense not to. So what is his beef?the extension? If he is good enough, we will be stupid not to keep him. So sign…. If he is value for 5 yrs he will get his extension. Its that simple. Either he thinks he will ride out the rest of his career for 5 yrs lucky to have the contract, or he will be an asset to be too good to let go... Shows his mind set really.
Mate, they axed the old soapie Days of Our Lives earlier this year after 50 odd years of us having to put up with it on our TV screens. Who knew they were going to replace it with The Benji Marshall Saga, which looks destined to be another long running, long winded, melodramatic tale of epic proportions, lies and innuendos - "Will he, won't he", "he said, she said, who said?" "I didn't, yes I did, but he didn't", "they really should cause I thought they already had" - YAWN! Can someone please wake me up when this one is finished as well? Hopefully it won't be another 50 years though because I'll be dead!
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@Black'n'White said:
Seriously. Pat Richards over Benji, I know who I would prefer as a mentor for our halves. Do you really think we need another(old) winger or centre just because he can kick goals.
It is certainly interesting that Benji is playing this out in the media.
To my mind it is a mere tactic employed during the contract negotiation. In any negotiation, it is about getting the upper hand. I think Benji is just firing a broadside at the club. Letting then know that he has options and is not desperate to stay thus reducing his leverage.
I think the real interesting side effect of this is what has all the publicity done to Moses' and Brooks' asking price? How much will the club have to pay to keep them?
Perhaps Benji is smarter than we give him credit for?
To my mind it is a mere tactic employed during the contract negotiation. In any negotiation, it is about getting the upper hand. I think Benji is just firing a broadside at the club. Letting then know that he has options and is not desperate to stay thus reducing his leverage.
I think the real interesting side effect of this is what has all the publicity done to Moses' and Brooks' asking price? How much will the club have to pay to keep them?
Perhaps Benji is smarter than we give him credit for?
@TIGERS said:
Robbie Farah had been in deep negotiations with Parramatta before Wests Tigers offered him a new contract. Not as much controversy occurred then. Strange also that the Daily Telegraph (Phil Rothfield) opened this story on the eve of the West Tigers v Cronulla match.
