Best Balmain AND Wests, Tigers Team

[Tiger5150]

Larry2005's great thread of the best combined Balmain/Wests/West Tigers team, it got me thinking of whether we could put together a team of players who played for BOTH Balmain & Wests.

Apologies if its too close to Larrys thread and feel free to delete if needed.

Ill kick it off

1. Garry Jack
2. Ross Conlon
3. Ellery Hanley
4. Garry Schofield
5.
6. Mick Neil
7. Scott Gale
8. Lee Crooks
9. Greg Cox
10.
11. Mick Luibuinskis
12. John Elias
13. Trevor Ryan

Pretty good backline, weak pack. Couldnt find a hooker so I threw Greg Cox in there, couldnt find a second prop.

Can anyone add to it or improve?

 

[jadtiger]

Warren Boland on the wing

 

[Tigerlily]

There seems to be some plagiarism going on here🧐😂...This topic thread already exist...

 

[Geo]

There seems to be some plagiarism going on here🧐😂...This topic thread already exist...

I thought that too but on closer inspection this one is for players that played for BOTH Balmain AND Wests..

Can Brett Gale play Prop..the forgotten Gale and I'll throw in Steve Knight on the wing..

 

[gallagher]

Gary MacFarlane and Gary Webster are a coupe of props that played for both I think.

 

[LeichhardtTiger]

Olaf Prattl played for Balmain 69 - 71 in the Centres (Might have played 2/R at a pinch) Missed the 69 GF having broken a leg about a month before the historic day. Played with Wests for a year in 72. Might not have been a Legend but a tough player and with a name like that has to at least be on the Bench!

 

[CoJo1013]

These are the only players I found which played for both clubs (other than the ones mentioned in the original post). Plenty of centres.
Olaf Prattl- Wing, Centre, Five-eighth, Lock
Steve Knight- Centre
Gil MacDougall- Centre
Kevin Smyth- Lock and Second Row
Bill Tonkin- Lock
Bede Goff- Hooker
Ken Bray- Fullback and Wing
William Brown- Hooker, Second row
Cec Fifield- Centre
Les Hayes- Centre
Roy Liston- Prop
Lyall Wall- fullback, wing, centre
Evan Cochrane- Wing, centre
Wayne Wigham- Centre
Gary Webster- Prop, second row
Warren Boland- Centre and wing
Albert Johnston- centre
Jim Craig- Wing

 

[LeichhardtTiger]

Steve Knight- Centre

Steve had the biggest biceps in Rugby League at the time. I recall him on Rex Mossop's show in an Arm Wrestle contest - But then the grey cells fail me.

 

[jadtiger]

Steve Knight- Centre

Steve had the biggest biceps in Rugby League at the time. I recall him on Rex Mossop's show in an Arm Wrestle contest - But then the grey cells fail me.

I havent seen him for 6-7 years but apart from a bad back he was still a very fit man and in much better shape than blokes less than half his age.A very genuine man.

 

[happy_tiger]

There seems to be some plagiarism going on here??...This topic thread already exist...

I thought that too but on closer inspection this one is for players that played for BOTH Balmain AND Wests..

Can Brett Gale play Prop..the forgotten Gale and I'll throw in Steve Knight on the wing..

Greg Oliphant played for Brisbane Wests and Balmain ......John Ribot de Bresac played for Brisbane Wests and Wests in Sydney

 

[happy_tiger]

There seems to be some plagiarism going on here??...This topic thread already exist...

I thought that too but on closer inspection this one is for players that played for BOTH Balmain AND Wests..

Can Brett Gale play Prop..the forgotten Gale and I'll throw in Steve Knight on the wing..

Didn't John Bilbija play for both Wests and Balmain

 

[happy_tiger]

Larry2005's great thread of the best combined Balmain/Wests/West Tigers team, it got me thinking of whether we could put together a team of players who played for BOTH Balmain & Wests.

Apologies if its too close to Larrys thread and feel free to delete if needed.

Ill kick it off

1. Garry Jack
2. Ross Conlon
3. Ellery Hanley
4. Garry Schofield
5.
6. Mick Neil
7. Scott Gale
8. Lee Crooks
9. Greg Cox
10.
11. Mick Luibuinskis
12. John Elias
13. Trevor Ryan

Pretty good backline, weak pack. Couldnt find a hooker so I threw Greg Cox in there, couldnt find a second prop.

Can anyone add to it or improve?

Jon Bilbija definitely played for both Wests and Balmain .....used to love him

 

[innsaneink]

Arthur Mountier



 

[Tiger5150]

Arthur Mountier



Ha...my strongest memory of Mountier is my Dad raving about how useless he was. Dad hated him.

 

[Geo]

OMG..how could I have forgotten this guy...our very own Big Damo...Damien McGarry..

 

[Don Kershane]

Steve Knight- Centre

Steve had the biggest biceps in Rugby League at the time. I recall him on Rex Mossop's show in an Arm Wrestle contest - But then the grey cells fail me.

Rex's " emotions" would have been stirred by that contest-but from memory he was more of a "massive thighs" aficianado.

 

[jirskyr]

I started a separate thread about this for trivia purposes, not realising this thread existed. I believe I have the official list of Balmain and Magpie players pre 2000, cross-checked against Rugby League Project.

Columns are
Debut year | Balmain or Wests first | Matches for Balmain | Matches for Wests | Played for other clubs? (i.e. no clubs other than Balmain or Wests) | Filter for dual players (always = 1)

1990 B 13 31 N 1 AFFLICK, Mark
1991 B 12 23 Y 1 ANDERSON, David
1976 B 4 57 Y 1 BEAVEN, Mark
1983 W 4 40 Y 1 BEAVEN, Paul
1980 B 4 38 Y 1 BILBIJA, John
1976 B 20 96 N 1 BOLAND, Warren
1957 B ? ? N 1 BRAY, Ken
1938 B 6 ? N 1 BROWN, William
1915 B 37 2 N 1 BURNICLE, E
1913 B 22 28 Y 1 BURNS, P
1908 B 1 15 Y 1 CARROLL, Pat
1983 W 4 6 Y 1 CARTER, Matt
1951 B ? ? N 1 CHURCH, Ernie
1981 B 1 24 N 1 CLARKE, Craig
1959 W ? ? Y 1 CLEGG, Frank
1976 B ? 11 N 1 CLOUGHESSY, Bill
1992 W 2 7 Y 1 COCHRANE, Evan
1936 B 6 4 N 1 COLLESS, Dave
1981 W 98 34 Y 1 CONLON, Ross
1976 B 23 50 Y 1 COX, Greg
1915 N 62 32 Y 1 CRAIG, Jim
1985 W 11 29 N 1 CROOKS, Lee
1976 B 11 2 Y 1 CROWE, Gerard
1983 W 67 28 Y 1 ELIAS, John
1977 B 1 1 N 1 ENSOR, Col
1943 W ? 11 Y 1 FAYERS, Fred
1923 W 5 63 Y 1 FIFIELD, Cecil
1983 W 99 16 1 GALE, Scott
1952 W ? ? N 1 GOFF, Bede
1971 B ? ? N 1 HANDCOCK, Peter
1988 B 34 13 N 1 HANLEY, Ellery
1961 B ? ? N 1 HANSEN, Bill
1923 B 52 19 N 1 HAYES, Les
1955 B ? ? Y 1 HENDERSON, Brian
1977 B 14 10 Y 1 HILLIARD, Bill
1951 B ? ? N 1 HYDE, Pat
1981 W 243 5 N 1 JACK, Garry
1912 B 76 9 Y 1 JOHNSTON, Albert
1979 B 16 3 N 1 KERR, Steve
1940 W 10 2 N 1 KINNARD, J
1972 W ? ? Y 1 KNIGHT, Stephen
1979 B 56 4 N 1 LAWSON, Mark
1920 B 25 8 Y 1 LISTON, Roy
1974 W ? ? N 1 LIUBINSKAS, Mick
1917 W 31 2 Y 1 LUCAS, Bill
1985 W 45 16 N 1 McFARLANE, Gary
1988 B 15 23 Y 1 McGARRY, Damien
1921 W 12 147 N 1 McMILLAN, Frank
1961 B ? ? N 1 MacDOUGALL, Gil
1929 B 11 4 N 1 MAGNUS, Tom
1974 B ? 42 Y 1 MOUNTIER, Arthur
1968 W ? ? Y 1 MURPHY, Tim
1983 W 97 47 Y 1 NEIL, Michael
1983 B 6 30 Y 1 PETHYBRIDGE, Rod
1913 B 56 1 N 1 POTTER, George
1969 B ? ? Y 1 PRATTL, Olaf
1982 B 1 6 N 0 RIGNEY, Scott
1943 W ? 26 N 1 RUSSELL, Jack
1972 B 65 2 Y 1 RYAN, Trevor
1971 B ? ? N 1 SATTERLEY, Stephen
1985 B 47 9 N 1 SCHOFIELD, Garry
1997 B 10 1 N 1 SCOTT, Marshall
1930 B 20 24 N 1 SIMPSON, Stan
1935 W 96 45 N 1 SMITH, Athol
1947 B ? ? N 1 SMITH, Bruce
1953 B ? ? Y 1 SMYTH, Kevin
1958 B ? ? Y 1 TONKIN, Bill
1912 B 96 16 Y 1 WALL, Lyall
1979 B 37 36 Y 1 WEBSTER, Gary
1976 B 132 14 Y 1 WIGHAM, Wayne
1949 W ? ? Y 2 WILLIAMS, Jack
1972 B ? ? Y 1 WORTH, Russell

 

[jirskyr]

That's 72 players total.

Interestingly, 67% of this group played for Balmain before Wests, i.e. very much more likely to have originally been a Balmain player (likely a Balmain junior, as a high % of this group debuted for Balmain) than a Wests player.

50% of the players never played for any club apart from Balmain or Wests - true precursor Wests Tigers!

53% of the group debuted after 1970, i.e. 47% of the dual players were in the first 62 years of the league, 53% in the last 30 years pre-merger. 26% of the players debuted between 1980 and 1997 (the last dual player was 1997).

 

[Geo]

That's 72 players total.

Interestingly, 67% of this group played for Balmain before Wests, i.e. very much more likely to have originally been a Balmain player (likely a Balmain junior, as a high % of this group debuted for Balmain) than a Wests player.

50% of the players never played for any club apart from Balmain or Wests - true precursor Wests Tigers!

53% of the group debuted after 1970, i.e. 47% of the dual players were in the first 62 years of the league, 53% in the last 30 years pre-merger. 26% of the players debuted between 1980 and 1997 (the last dual player was 1997).

Did we come 9th..