Tigers4ever
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Plenty of good comments…...hope we keep Blake.
Blake Austin in 2015
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@sideline eye said:
Moses is not the man for the No 6 in 2015\. he will be a star bat has to develop some more.
Austin is the man. He is a solid runner and was the shining light in an otherwise lack luster season.
tig_prmz
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im really keen on this idea
1\. moses
4\. teddy
6\. austin
7\. brooks
as much as i hate putting players out of position, i think since we lack the depth in the backs- it's best to have your best players get some experience first. without a doubt, there will be a few injuries here and there so it's best that a couple of players are flexible in the positions they play.
in the long term,
1\. teddy
6\. moses
7\. brooks
14\. austin (if he sticks around)
is our best option without a doubt.
1\. moses
4\. teddy
6\. austin
7\. brooks
as much as i hate putting players out of position, i think since we lack the depth in the backs- it's best to have your best players get some experience first. without a doubt, there will be a few injuries here and there so it's best that a couple of players are flexible in the positions they play.
in the long term,
1\. teddy
6\. moses
7\. brooks
14\. austin (if he sticks around)
is our best option without a doubt.
king_sirro
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@tig_prmz said:
The would be ideal to fit them all in, only problem is that Tedesco is so far ahead of Moses as a fullback I don't think we can afford to sacrifice that position just to fit them in.
If Moses can improve at 1, and improve quickly, it's worth a try. But I really think Teddy has to be at 1 for us to be at our best
tig_prmz
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youre right about tedesco but the reason i suggest that is to save moses from front line defense and to ease teddy back into the game. most of teddy's injuries have been contactless and at centre, he gets less space than at FB meaning he'll have to use his upper body more IMO.
also, the thing is half and 5/8 rarely combine in the game today… so i think the combo of moses, brooks and teddy is best served in this way.
this allows austin to inject himself whenever possible and take the line on.
also, the thing is half and 5/8 rarely combine in the game today… so i think the combo of moses, brooks and teddy is best served in this way.
this allows austin to inject himself whenever possible and take the line on.
The spine will be the important factor in 2015,Farrah,Brooks,Tedesco,Taylor will have to choose the 5/8 role after more assessment during the off season.I would think in my opinion Blake would be the option based on skill effort and experience he showed in 2014,nothing against Mitchell he is a superstar in the making,however he will be with us for a while and needs more time to play at NRL level week in week out.
Just my thoughts..I really don't want to see Blake go to another club he offers us so much any position the coach puts him. :smiley: :sign: :sign:
Just my thoughts..I really don't want to see Blake go to another club he offers us so much any position the coach puts him. :smiley: :sign: :sign:
balmain boy
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If Austin play's 5/8 it puts a lot of pressure at the feet of Brooks as the sole playmaker in the side. For Brooks' development he needs someone who can contribute straight away with the passing and kicking games. If Brooks is our best junior we have to nurture him, if we expect him to carry the team already it could damage his development.
Austin is just a runner, as has been said many times before. Unless Taylor teaches him how play in the halves in the off season he needs to play centre or bench.
Moses can organise, pass, kick, and run. His defence is actually no worse than Austin's. Austin made a lot of grabs at thin air don't forget. And Moses is the same size as James Malloney so anyone saying he needs another 5kg before he can play first grade is full of prejudiced, regurgitated crap.
Austin is just a runner, as has been said many times before. Unless Taylor teaches him how play in the halves in the off season he needs to play centre or bench.
Moses can organise, pass, kick, and run. His defence is actually no worse than Austin's. Austin made a lot of grabs at thin air don't forget. And Moses is the same size as James Malloney so anyone saying he needs another 5kg before he can play first grade is full of prejudiced, regurgitated crap.
GNR4LIFE
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If the club. or more specifically Taylor wants to retain him for 2016 then they need to find him one spot and keep him there. Another yr of playing off the bench one week, in the centres the next and at 6 the week after will only make him want to move on, especially if there's a club offering him the chance to cement a spot. And you couldn't blame him for that
simonthetiger
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Austin is a good runner of the ball but IMO isnt the dynamic playmaker that I would like to see in the halves.
IMO the 1/6/7/9 has to be Teddy/Moses/Brooks/Farah.
We have already blooded Moses I wouldnt be shifitng him around.
I would play Blake in the centres. Essentially he is a runner who can pass a bit.Perfect fit for centre where we are a little slim IMO.
IMO the 1/6/7/9 has to be Teddy/Moses/Brooks/Farah.
We have already blooded Moses I wouldnt be shifitng him around.
I would play Blake in the centres. Essentially he is a runner who can pass a bit.Perfect fit for centre where we are a little slim IMO.
He's a little shady in defence though. If he worked on his defending he could make a good centre.
@Balmain Boy said:
You make a damn fine point.
Like most of you I want Austin in the starting 17\. He does play more like a ball runner than a half, which is why I think he would make a better Fullback than 5/8.
It does put us in a pickle with Teddy already at Fullback but still, I like Austin at fullback
VanillaThunder
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Blake Austin is our starting 6, no doubt about it. He was our best player by far last year and people want a 19 year old speed bump instead?
I haven't seen Moses play through the grades so I'm not burdened by the same expectations of his potential as others, and I just can't justify having him start over Blake. Maybe after a few years of dominating State Cup (he is locked up long term, after all) but not before then if everyone is fully fit.
I disagree with the idea that it will put more pressure on Brooks too. When the chips were down and we needed points/a big play it was Austin that took the responsibility upon himself and made something happen. Rather than have two 19 year olds running around like headless chooks I'd take Blake tucking it under his arm and having a go.
Anasta's responsibility was to get us to tackle 4 then Brooks would take over, I don't see why Austin couldn't do the same but with an infinitely better running game. Taylor could be the sort of coach that turns him in to a real top notch half.
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I haven't seen Moses play through the grades so I'm not burdened by the same expectations of his potential as others, and I just can't justify having him start over Blake. Maybe after a few years of dominating State Cup (he is locked up long term, after all) but not before then if everyone is fully fit.
I disagree with the idea that it will put more pressure on Brooks too. When the chips were down and we needed points/a big play it was Austin that took the responsibility upon himself and made something happen. Rather than have two 19 year olds running around like headless chooks I'd take Blake tucking it under his arm and having a go.
Anasta's responsibility was to get us to tackle 4 then Brooks would take over, I don't see why Austin couldn't do the same but with an infinitely better running game. Taylor could be the sort of coach that turns him in to a real top notch half.
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VanillaThunder
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Blake Austin is our starting 6, no doubt about it. He was our best player by far last year and people want a 19 year old speed bump instead?
I haven't seen Moses play through the grades so I'm not burdened by the same expectations of his potential as others, and I just can't justify having him start over Blake. Maybe after a few years of dominating State Cup (he is locked up long term, after all) but not before then if everyone is fully fit.
I disagree with the idea that it will put more pressure on Brooks too. When the chips were down and we needed points/a big play it was Austin that took the responsibility upon himself and made something happen. Rather than have two 19 year olds running around like headless chooks I'd take Blake tucking it under his arm and having a go.
Anasta's responsibility was to get us to tackle 4 then Brooks would take over, I don't see why Austin couldn't do the same but with an infinitely better running game. Taylor could be the sort of coach that turns him in to a real top notch half.
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I haven't seen Moses play through the grades so I'm not burdened by the same expectations of his potential as others, and I just can't justify having him start over Blake. Maybe after a few years of dominating State Cup (he is locked up long term, after all) but not before then if everyone is fully fit.
I disagree with the idea that it will put more pressure on Brooks too. When the chips were down and we needed points/a big play it was Austin that took the responsibility upon himself and made something happen. Rather than have two 19 year olds running around like headless chooks I'd take Blake tucking it under his arm and having a go.
Anasta's responsibility was to get us to tackle 4 then Brooks would take over, I don't see why Austin couldn't do the same but with an infinitely better running game. Taylor could be the sort of coach that turns him in to a real top notch half.
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supercoach
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We need him next year and long term, what position you play him is anyone's guess. Their will be injuries and we need quality players in the 1 6 7 and 9 and Austen has all those numbers covered.
The trick will be keeping everyone happy both in terms of money and their football. Also keeping combinations going is important, you do not want to be chopping and changing your spine if you don't have to
The trick will be keeping everyone happy both in terms of money and their football. Also keeping combinations going is important, you do not want to be chopping and changing your spine if you don't have to
balmain boy
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@VanillaThunder said:
Perhaps you missed Austin's feeble attempts at defence, or forgot about these due to his ability to score a try? Moses' defence is no worse than Austin's.
yes when the chips were down it was up to Brooks/Teddy at the beginning of the season, and Austin from about the midpoint of the season on. If he was at centre he would still be able to take it upon himself to take the line on. That's the bloody point! He doesn't setup tries, he scores tries. He doesn't kick downfield, not put up bombs. Moses can do that so why not have them all out there at the same time?!
Having someone who can pass and kick on both sides of the field is surely a good idea!
Anasta never got us to tackle 4\. He barely ever touched the ball, so unless he got us there vocally he didn't do anything. Having Austin getting us to tackle 4 then letting brooks have a go means that 75% of our set is wasted by not threatening the defence.
What's wrong with having two ball players in the halves, and ball-runners in the backline?
stevetiger
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@Balmain Boy said:
I think that this might be our best option. Austin to the centres.
VanillaThunder
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@Balmain Boy said:
1\. So looking at it that way; both bad defenders, Austin scores tries and Moses sets them up. Austin is more of a threat IMO, but for your sake I'll call it even.
2\. It's the responsibility of the centre to set up their outside man, even more so in the modern game. Austin's running game is so dangerous because he is playing as a half, throw him in at centre and it'll be a lot easier for defences to shut down his time and space, meaning we're down a centre (also a questionable defender) and automatically playing 16 vs 17.
3\. It's a bloody brilliant idea, so tell Brooksy to play both sides of the field! Get rid of the left-right trend and just play as traditional halves. Automatically increases the potency of our attack, and Austin becomes even more of a threat at 6\. I would like to see him shoulder more kicking responsibilities though.
4\. Austin possesses something crucial that Anasta doesn't and that's vision and creative spark. If he can marshal the forwards for the first four tackles while having a license to attack where he sees fit then I don't see any problems.
End of the day we have differing opinions, that's what forums are for. Austin is my first choice 6 for 2015, whether or not he remains so long term is dependent on Moses' development in State Cup, but again, he's locked up long term so we have the luxury of waiting and not rushing.
I just don't see why it'd be worth risking losing Austin just to see how Moses goes at this point.
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A left off field idea but I think he could easily be used at lock?
There isn't a great deal of difference between 5/8 and lock. Look at anasta, fitter, daley. I'm in no way comparing him to them, just the roles they played. It would allow him to concentrate on running the ball and not be burdened with too much passing,kicking and organising. If we put a bit of size on him, his speed and footwork would be dangerous, similar to Tyrone peachey.
I'm not sure of his physical stats but he can't be much smaller than liam fulton.
There isn't a great deal of difference between 5/8 and lock. Look at anasta, fitter, daley. I'm in no way comparing him to them, just the roles they played. It would allow him to concentrate on running the ball and not be burdened with too much passing,kicking and organising. If we put a bit of size on him, his speed and footwork would be dangerous, similar to Tyrone peachey.
I'm not sure of his physical stats but he can't be much smaller than liam fulton.
