Blocker: Tigers need an Ellis-style enforcer

[The_Patriot]

I like our pack, I wouldnt swap it for many in the league.

More worried about the spine.

We have argubly the weakest pack in the comp and you wouldn't swap it for any.
I'd swap it for a full strength Titans pack tomorrow, at least they have a hooker (actually 2)

Hang on a minute Hangonaminute.

I never said i wouldnt swap it for any. Never said that at all.

"**I like our pack, I wouldnt swap it for many in the league.**"

Hardly the same as what you are saying i said.

Ill go out on a limb and say the league will be talking up our young forward pack by round 6.

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

Our forward pack is awesome and it's gonna be even better next year.

 

[JC99]

Our forward pack will surprise a lot of people this year. Lots of guys will hit their peak this year and keep improving.

 

[Hangonaminute]

I like our pack, I wouldnt swap it for many in the league.

More worried about the spine.

We have argubly the weakest pack in the comp and you wouldn't swap it for any.
I'd swap it for a full strength Titans pack tomorrow, at least they have a hooker (actually 2)

Understand where you are coming from but I reckon our pack is highly underrated. I reckon they will shock a few critics this year. Stefano in 2021 with the addition of another aggressive forward will only help to build on the guys we have there now. Musgrove will do well.

Unfortunately it's still only 2020 and the season hasn't even started, let's talk about next season next season, Stefano isn't here so no point in even mentioning him.

Our pack is looking worse this season than last, just the fact we have no number 9 it's already weaker, add to that losing our best backrower (whether you like him or not) and we're a weaker pack.
Luci doesn't compare to Matterson
And whoever plays 9 doesn't compare to Farah

I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong

 

[Demps]

8 Twal
9 Hooker (Mbye, Walters, Liddle)
10 Eisenhuth
11 Luciano
12 Garner
13 Taylor

14 Che Kam
15 Aloiai
16 Mikaele
17 Musgrove


In my opinion, that's our best pack for 2020 and its very solid imo with a mad purposeful bench.

CheKam, utility/2RF
Covers the backline if needed.
Come on at the end of the halves, run amok against the tired opposition and pull off some clutch plays he's known for.

Aloiai, can play anywhere in the pack.
Lots of impact.
Maybe a nice guy but have seen him fire up a few times before and square up to the opposition.
He's best off the bench for mine.

Mikaele, still a benchie imo.
He's developing nicely though.
Great legs and an absolute machine.
Some room for improvement but a consistent year coming off the bench and he's gonna be a top flight prop in 2021 onward.

Musgrove, looks the real deal.
Should be really pushing for a starting position quite quickly. Let him find his feet and form and shake off the ring rust. He's gonna prove to be a great signing.

Twal and Eiso are starting.
Not big on Eiso but we don't have anyone else really at the moment. Two workhorses. Let em tackle their guts out and make some hard runs before we sub em for the impact boyz.

Garner and Luciano in the backrow.
Garner has been a constant improved and imo is gonna have a stand out year this year. He can hit the line so well, great collaborater with Brooks and has a mean offload.

Luciano has a lot of the same attributes. Great find, great runner and I'm keen to see him really become a star this year. Its looking likely.

Elijah, safest man for the 13...
Obvs listens to critism and always steps up.
Never disappoints.
Known for a few silly errors and penalties but is legitimately our best defender, link man and definitely has a go.

 

[Hangonaminute]

I like our pack, I wouldnt swap it for many in the league.

More worried about the spine.

We have argubly the weakest pack in the comp and you wouldn't swap it for any.
I'd swap it for a full strength Titans pack tomorrow, at least they have a hooker (actually 2)


Hang on a minute Hangonaminute.

I never said i wouldnt swap it for any. Never said that at all.

"**I like our pack, I wouldnt swap it for many in the league.**"

Hardly the same as what you are saying i said.

Ill go out on a limb and say the league will be talking up our young forward pack by round 6.

So what packs would you swap it for?

Because I'd swap it for last years spooners pack.

 

[The_Patriot]

I like our pack, I wouldnt swap it for many in the league.

More worried about the spine.

We have argubly the weakest pack in the comp and you wouldn't swap it for any.
I'd swap it for a full strength Titans pack tomorrow, at least they have a hooker (actually 2)


Hang on a minute Hangonaminute.

I never said i wouldnt swap it for any. Never said that at all.

"**I like our pack, I wouldnt swap it for many in the league.**"

Hardly the same as what you are saying i said.

Ill go out on a limb and say the league will be talking up our young forward pack by round 6.

So what packs would you swap it for?

Because I'd swap it for last years spooners pack.

Cant help you with that. if thats your opinion all im saying is come back and see me after about 6 to 8 rounds.

These guys will surprise the hell out of you.

 

[Hangonaminute]

I like our pack, I wouldnt swap it for many in the league.

More worried about the spine.

We have argubly the weakest pack in the comp and you wouldn't swap it for any.
I'd swap it for a full strength Titans pack tomorrow, at least they have a hooker (actually 2)


Hang on a minute Hangonaminute.

I never said i wouldnt swap it for any. Never said that at all.

"**I like our pack, I wouldnt swap it for many in the league.**"

Hardly the same as what you are saying i said.

Ill go out on a limb and say the league will be talking up our young forward pack by round 6.

So what packs would you swap it for?

Because I'd swap it for last years spooners pack.

Cant help you with that. if thats your opinion all im saying is come back and see me after about 6 to 8 rounds.

These guys will surprise the hell out of you.

Well you said you wouldn't swap it for "many" so what packs would you swap it for?
How "many"?

 

[Demps]

I like our pack, I wouldnt swap it for many in the league.

More worried about the spine.

We have argubly the weakest pack in the comp and you wouldn't swap it for any.
I'd swap it for a full strength Titans pack tomorrow, at least they have a hooker (actually 2)


Hang on a minute Hangonaminute.

I never said i wouldnt swap it for any. Never said that at all.

"**I like our pack, I wouldnt swap it for many in the league.**"

Hardly the same as what you are saying i said.

Ill go out on a limb and say the league will be talking up our young forward pack by round 6.

So what packs would you swap it for?

Because I'd swap it for last years spooners pack.

Cant help you with that. if thats your opinion all im saying is come back and see me after about 6 to 8 rounds.

These guys will surprise the hell out of you.

Well you said you wouldn't swap it for "many" so what packs would you swap it for?
How "many"?

Bronx

:::

Nah we good

:::

 

[The_Patriot]

I like our pack, I wouldnt swap it for many in the league.

More worried about the spine.

We have argubly the weakest pack in the comp and you wouldn't swap it for any.
I'd swap it for a full strength Titans pack tomorrow, at least they have a hooker (actually 2)


Hang on a minute Hangonaminute.

I never said i wouldnt swap it for any. Never said that at all.

"**I like our pack, I wouldnt swap it for many in the league.**"

Hardly the same as what you are saying i said.

Ill go out on a limb and say the league will be talking up our young forward pack by round 6.

So what packs would you swap it for?

Because I'd swap it for last years spooners pack.

Cant help you with that. if thats your opinion all im saying is come back and see me after about 6 to 8 rounds.

These guys will surprise the hell out of you.

Well you said you wouldn't swap it for "many" so what packs would you swap it for?
How "many"?

Already responded to this question.

Come back and see me after 6 to 8 rounds.

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

I would swap Eisenhuith with Clark (this season, until we get Utoikamanu), move L Lailua to lock, and replace him with Aloiai, Seyfarth to bench instead of Aloiai
8 Twal
9 Hooker (Mbye, Walters, Liddle)
10 Clark
11 Aloai
12 Garner
13 L Lailua

14 Che Kam
15 Seyfarth
16 Mikaele
17 Musgrove

>

 

[Demps]

I would swap Eisenhuith with Clark (this season, until we get Utoikamanu), move L Lailua to lock, and replace him with Aloiai, Seyfarth to bench instead of Aloiai
8 Twal
9 Hooker (Mbye, Walters, Liddle)
10 Clark
11 Aloai
12 Garner
13 L Lailua

14 Che Kam
15 Seyfarth
16 Mikaele
17 Musgrove

>

Clarke for Eiso the only change id make.
Always forget about him.

 

[Strider]

Frizell 2021

 

[TrueTiger]

If it were up to Blocker, every player would be 110kg and thick as bricks. The only reason he still has a job is to cater to those less intelligent, older fans.

Im a much older fan and was there at LO to cheer Blocker,Sironen,S.Gale,Elias and co on for many years and now Im a staunch WTs member and supporter...you can bag Blocker all you like,but,he has a point ...the only one who comes anywhere near Ellis in the last couple of seasons really was Matterson,he left on his own accord to chase something better..
Our pack is reasonable,but we have many young guys who need much NRL experience to toughen them up,once that happens they will become a force especially under Madge..
He also has a point about Brooks having to own this team,this year he should have everything in his favour to do so...

 

[jadtiger]

Blocker is correct in saying we need an enforcer but i wouldnt bother trying to get the one he mentioned(too old and has not played at NRL level) but i am hard pressed trying to think of anybody suitable.
Developing our own may be best option with JA probably being most likely

 

[Demps]

Blocker is correct in saying we need an enforcer but i wouldnt bother trying to get the one he mentioned(too old and has not played at NRL level) but i am hard pressed trying to think of anybody suitable.
Developing our own may be best option with JA probably being most likely

Aloiai is a dark horse imo
Has an aggressive side he busts out rarely.

 

[TrueTiger]

If it were up to Blocker, every player would be 110kg and thick as bricks. The only reason he still has a job is to cater to those less intelligent, older fans.

Us older fans happen to have been around to watch and support some very tough,hard working Rugby League players that have gone before these younger players and set a platform on how the game was played...it has changed somewhat,but to call us less intelligent because we are older really shows how disrespectful the younger generation are...you should be ashamed of yourself to even think that way...
You probably wouldn't even consider how some of us older people go out of our way to help younger kids learn the game and help when we can...
Call us less intelligent and older,however we have always had our dignity,pride and respect for our older folk,you may consider taking a leaf out of our book...

 

[ElleryHanley]

I think Mikaele Musgrove and Aloiai all have it in them to fill that role...this year..

Musgrove and Aloiai are the key to our entire season IMO.

One / both of them has to be the pack leader and aggressive. Stand over blokes when you have knocked them down...give their opposing big men a smirk after a hit...get in blokes faces.

Basically everything JWH does.

We need that.

I am not sure what Aloiai will become. Will he be the leader / good sign a few weeks ago with his "we noticed / we will respond" tweet re our pack being rated the lowest.

Or will he be too nice for it? First into prayer after games / other forwards genuinely like him / nice fella.

One thing is for sure, we do not need Lawry / ET / Eisenhuth type vets in the young forwards ears. Great blokes, but no anger in any of them.

We need a JWH style hitman revving them up.

 

[Demps]

I think Mikaele Musgrove and Aloiai all have it in them to fill that role...this year..

Musgrove and Aloiai are the key to our entire season IMO.

One / both of them has to be the pack leader and aggressive. Stand over blokes when you have knocked them down...give their opposing big men a smirk after a hit...get in blokes faces.

Basically everything JWH does.

We need that.

I am not sure what Aloiai will become. Will he be the leader / good sign a few weeks ago with his "we noticed / we will respond" tweet re our pack being rated the lowest.

Or will he be too nice for it? First into prayer after games / other forwards genuinely like him / nice fella.

One thing is for sure, we do not need Lawry / ET / Eisenhuth type vets in the young forwards ears. Great blokes, but no anger in any of them.

We need a JWH style hitman revving them up.

They're more than capable.
Wouldn't underestimate Mikaele either.
He is a hard runner... could be our Payne Haas or Tuamalolo if he lives up to potential.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

If it were up to Blocker, every player would be 110kg and thick as bricks. The only reason he still has a job is to cater to those less intelligent, older fans.

Well that must be me because I think he’s 100% correct. He didn’t say every player, he said one enforcer. And no matter how old he is, he knows the value of a tough leader up front. Wemiss it badly. But from what I saw the other night I think musgrove could grow into this type of player