Board Needs To Be Held Accountable

weststigers4life

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It seem's incomprehensible that the board has agreed to let Fifita & Gibbs leave without knowing Adam Blair has signed & agreed to join the Wests Tigers next year.How any club would allow a player ( Fifita ) that they have developed & brought through there system with so much untapped potential & ability in front of him leave is mind boggling. :bash No one would disagree that Blair would be a great signing & addition to any club but not at the reported amount of money that is being banded around.To have a player that in my opinion would be ranked as our 4th best player at the club, being on that amount of money can't be justified or any good for team harmony.For the record, i rate Benji #1 Farah #2 & Heighington #3 Everyone understand's that the board have to make tough & sometime's unpopular decision's from time to time, but some of the decision's lately seem DUMB & not putting our club first.They didn't want to resign Benji as they felt he hadn't provided the club great value with all the injuries he had suffered early in his career.Also not wanting to resign Sheens because apart from winning the comp in 05, we never made the semi's.On paper that might of seemed understandable but regardless whoever the coach was, we had injuries & until recently we never have had the depth to cover for injuries.So even if we had Wayne Bennet coaching our side in those years, it wouldn't of made a difference.Judge him of where or club was when he first joined us & where we are today.I admit i don't have a clue who these untouchable people making the decisions are, i just hope it's not made up of half balmain tigers & half western suburbs administrators from when we merged.At the time, that would of been the only logical way to move forward as a joint venture,but we are no longer balmain or wests, we are the mighty Wests Tigers & unless we have independent people of those clubs, making the decisions, we will never move forward or make the correct decisions for our great club.
 
Can anyone let me know if Blair is really worth it, I don't watch many Storm games but I saw last Monday nights game against the Roosters and despite being Captain I barely sighted him, is it because there are a lot of Polynesians in the Storms forwards or is he really over rated?.
When the club signed Gareth Ellis I had never heard of him but he hasn't looked back so the right decision was made with the Pom but I can recall back in the mid 80's the Balmain Tigers signed a then current Kiwi International in Bruce Gall and he turned out to be a complete dud!.
 
I think it is fair to see what signings we make before we hang the management out to dry. They have also locked in key players ie Benji Robbie Lawrence to ling term deals.
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@balmaintigers4life said:
It seem's incomprehensible that the board has agreed to let Fifita & Gibbs leave without knowing Adam Blair has signed & agreed to join the Wests Tigers next year.How any club would allow a player ( Fifita ) that they have developed & brought through there system with so much untapped potential & ability in front of him leave is mind boggling. :bash No one would disagree that Blair would be a great signing & addition to any club but not at the reported amount of money that is being banded around.To have a player that in my opinion would be ranked as our 4th best player at the club, being on that amount of money can't be justified or any good for team harmony.For the record, i rate Benji #1 Farah #2 & Heighington #3 Everyone understand's that the board have to make tough & sometime's unpopular decision's from time to time, but some of the decision's lately seem DUMB & not putting our club first.They didn't want to resign Benji as they felt he hadn't provided the club great value with all the injuries he had suffered early in his career.Also not wanting to resign Sheens because apart from winning the comp in 05, we never made the semi's.On paper that might of seemed understandable but regardless whoever the coach was, we had injuries & until recently we never have had the depth to cover for injuries.So even if we had Wayne Bennet coaching our side in those years, it wouldn't of made a difference.Judge him on where our club was when he first joined us & where we are today.**<big>I admit i don't have a clue who these untouchable people making the decisions are, i just hope it's not made up of half balmain tigers & half western suburbs administrators from when we merged.At the time, that would of been the only logical way to move forward as a joint venture,but we are no longer balmain or wests, we are the mighty Wests Tigers & unless we have independent people of those clubs, making the decisions, we will never move forward or make the correct decisions for our great club.</big>**

Wests Tigers Rugby League Football Pty Ltd is a company, limited by shares, established under a joint venture agreement between the Balmain Tigers DRLFC, Western Suburbs DRLFC and Western Suburbs Leagues Clubs at Ashfield and Campbelltown.

The Constitution of the company provides for a shareholders’ agreement between the two parties, with 50% equity entitlements held by Balmain and 50% by the Wests Group.

Both parties to the shareholders agreement provide five Directors of the company plus a Company Secretary who is also the CEO of Wests Tigers, who hold office for a period of three years. The Chairman of the company is provided, in the first term of 12 months, by Balmain Tigers, and the second term by Western Suburbs Magpies. They then alternate.

The Board of Directors is required to meet as and when required, and has established a monthly cycle.
 
@[b said:
balmaintigers4life"]
but **we are no longer balmain or wests**, we are the mighty Wests Tigers

Hmmmm.

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The board IS held accountable. At the Balmain or Wests AGMs you can vote them out if you wish, or you can stand for the board yourself.

From memory, no one has objected to either of the board's re-elections for a while, but nothing is stopping you from doing so. Just make sure you become a member of the respective clubs, wait your three years and then start voting.

I can't speak for Wests, but I think the balmain half is doing a great job
 
Ok one. If you are seriously rating Fifita higher than Chris Lawrence you're delusional.
Secondly Fifita wanted to leave and has decided that the Money offered by the Sharks is too good to refuse, the tigers could not match the offer and Andrew has decided to take the Sharks deal. Cannot blame him most would do the same. The Tigers have thier Salary cap budgets and this is one they just couldn't compete with.
What is the alternative what do you expect the club to do? If the club refuse to let Fifita go we have a unmotivated player not performing using up valuable cap money.
It's sad yes but the reality of modern football.
Yes we have made room for other players possibly Blair and to retain current players.
 
@innsaneink said:
@[b said:
balmaintigers4life"]
but **we are no longer balmain or wests**, we are the mighty Wests Tigers

Hmmmm.

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:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Where is the like button when I need it !
 
@balmaintigers4life said:
It seem's incomprehensible that the board has agreed to let Fifita & Gibbs leave without knowing Adam Blair has signed & agreed to join the Wests Tigers next year.How any club would allow a player ( Fifita ) that they have developed & brought through there system with so much untapped potential & ability in front of him leave is mind boggling. :bash No one would disagree that Blair would be a great signing & addition to any club but not at the reported amount of money that is being banded around.To have a player that in my opinion would be ranked as our 4th best player at the club, being on that amount of money can't be justified or any good for team harmony.For the record, i rate Benji #1 Farah #2 & Heighington #3 Everyone understand's that the board have to make tough & sometime's unpopular decision's from time to time, but some of the decision's lately seem DUMB & not putting our club first.They didn't want to resign Benji as they felt he hadn't provided the club great value with all the injuries he had suffered early in his career.Also not wanting to resign Sheens because apart from winning the comp in 05, we never made the semi's.On paper that might of seemed understandable but regardless whoever the coach was, we had injuries & until recently we never have had the depth to cover for injuries.So even if we had Wayne Bennet coaching our side in those years, it wouldn't of made a difference.Judge him on where our club was when he first joined us & where we are today.I admit i don't have a clue who these untouchable people making the decisions are, i just hope it's not made up of half balmain tigers & half western suburbs administrators from when we merged.At the time, that would of been the only logical way to move forward as a joint venture,but we are no longer balmain or wests, we are the mighty Wests Tigers & unless we have independent people of those clubs, making the decisions, we will never move forward or make the correct decisions for our great club.

You can't blame injuries for us not making the finals 2006-2009\. Every team gets injuries. We wanted to keep Fifita but Sharks offered him alot more $$.
 
the clubs starting to move in the right direction imo .. we won the comp in 05 but instead of getting stronger we held on to our favorite players for various loyalties and the like …fiftas not worth anything near the 350k that is being reported...some in here actually think some of their faves are actually great players .. weve seen a few move on and not many have turned out to be superstars ....
 
@innsaneink said:
@[b said:
balmaintigers4life"]
but **we are no longer balmain or wests**, we are the mighty Wests Tigers

Hmmmm.

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Isn't the constant 'takeover' sarcasm in every topic getting a bit stale?
 
I would have thought top 4 last year and currently sitting in the top 6 isnt bad work from the board. Teams lose players, and sometimes good players. The dogs have been gutted in the last 5 years. The storm have lost a wealth of talent. The sharks have lost two great young props.

So we have lost one prop of potential and another prop with an aging deteriorating body. Not bad really.
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The board,the ceo and Sheens are all trying to change us from a middle of the road side into a great side.

Keeping your salary cap balanced and keeping the right mix of players is the hardest thing to achieve in the running of a football club. To do this hard calls have to made, they might not always work but you cant stand still. Where most people on this forum are looking at 2011 and maybe 2012, the football club have to look further down the track, probably in three to four year blocks.

Gibbs was a very good experienced Fgrader, but he wasnt a GREAT Fgrader and probably had made it to the top of the hill and is slowly moving down the other side and of course injuries were starting to their toll.So I can see why the club has taken a punt and released him.

Fifita, like others I see as a player with the Xfactor but I also see him as a player that could have a short sharp stay at the top. Are we willing to part with 350g a year for a impact bench player who dosnt have a great defensive game and has limited minutes in his tank???

Iam willing to give the club the benefit of the doubt, I think they are building towards a plan, built around about six marquee players, a few journey men and a whole heap of young athletes making up the balance of the squad.

It will be interesting to see how it unfolds in the next couple of years but I think its a bit rich bagging the club when they are actually trying to lift the club. People want change and scream when they make change
 
@supercoach said:
I am willing to give the club the benefit of the doubt

I'm always willing to give the club the benefit of the doubt however losing Fifita appears a huge loss. Time will tell how it works out. Fifita might not progress.

I really can't see how the board can be held accountable unless we do something really bad like break the salary cap by rorting it. I mean we have a good squad. We have some stability. We have a good coach.

The players have to perform.
 
@Swordy said:
@innsaneink said:
@[b said:
balmaintigers4life"]
but **we are no longer balmain or wests**, we are the mighty Wests Tigers

Hmmmm.

![](http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/thinking/smileys-thinking-802676.gif)

Isn't the constant 'takeover' sarcasm in every topic getting a bit stale?

Well…sometimes we need to be made aware of our own little hypocisys (for want of a word Im struggling to find)
Seems balmaintiger4life, now weststigers4life...doesnt seem to think so and has probably acted accordingly.

Big congrats to him/her
 
Have faith in the board. These days the game is a very different thing and when it seems like they are throwing today out of the window, they are really thinking of tomorrow and beyond. And ultimately, if we don't like it, we can change it!!
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I have to say it took me a little while to accept that the Balmain Tigers are gone form the premiership. So many great memories for me and as Dad didn't live with us when I was growing up, the only time I saw my Dad was when he came and watched me play footy when I was a kid, and when he took me to watch the Tigers play. For me it was more than footy, it was a family thing.

Looking back now, if we had to merge and move with the times, I couldn't think of a better club to share the journey. Magpie people were just like us, loved their footy and their team. It was a lifestyle, not just a game.

Nowadays we are one. Let's just be one. And along the way, lets stick it up the others like the Sea Eagles, Rabbitohs and the Roosters and continue to hate them like we always have! Think of 2005 when we were thought of as pieces of dirt but stuck it up them so hard that they still talk about it today!!

And take a minute to look at my avatar and think of what it means to you all.
 
@tiger05 said:
@supercoach said:
I am willing to give the club the benefit of the doubt

I'm always willing to give the club the benefit of the doubt however losing Fifita appears a huge loss. Time will tell how it works out. Fifita might not progress.

I really can't see how the board can be held accountable unless we do something really bad like break the salary cap by rorting it. I mean we have a good squad. We have some stability. We have a good coach.

The players have to perform.

We have cheated the cap for this last year.
 
@magpie mania said:
@tiger05 said:
@supercoach said:
I am willing to give the club the benefit of the doubt

I'm always willing to give the club the benefit of the doubt however losing Fifita appears a huge loss. Time will tell how it works out. Fifita might not progress.

I really can't see how the board can be held accountable unless we do something really bad like break the salary cap by rorting it. I mean we have a good squad. We have some stability. We have a good coach.

The players have to perform.

We have cheated the cap for this last year.

I think thats half the problem, we took a punt with the cap last year with a grey area in the rules and lost. I think we have to be seen as been squeaky clean with our cap from now on. So the CEO will not be pushing the boundary's.
 
No! The WTs did not cheat the cap last year.
The WTs claimed the dispensation for NRL players (Farah and Gibbs from memory) who had been with the Club since they played under 20s.
In a highly controversial decision the NRL ruled that the dispensation is only available if the under 20s comp those NRL players were in was the current National Youth Comp. Gibbs and Farah played under 20s before the NYC was created.
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