Boston Bomber..

she should be charged, but because we have so many do gooders she will must likely be able to sue the USA for killing her son.
 
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
@TrueTiger said:
Jerry,she is a mother,she can't see the wrong in what her son has done..blind love I think..

As for the posters on our forum,they have a right of an opinion as have you,if we were all the same it would be the most boring forum of all time…geez I can't agree with some of the knuckleheads on here(the Maroon coloured ones in particular),but they are all part of our forum family and we try and be civil to each other as best we can...cheers Jerry...

How many Australian mothers would say that. She doesn't show remorse fine but to crap on the whole nation of over 300 million for the evilness her two sons displayed is abhorrent. You certainly are the voice of reason TT but So that these attacks don't become a daily occurrence there is no voice of reason deserved for these maggots of society they need to be eradicated. Simple.

I'd pick my son over country ever single day of the week.

I'd crap on our country too If I had to choose between country and son.

Irrespective of her belief system, which varies a huge deal from mine, I would probably do a very similar think if provoked like she undoubtedly is.
 
@underdog said:
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
@TrueTiger said:
Jerry,she is a mother,she can't see the wrong in what her son has done..blind love I think..

As for the posters on our forum,they have a right of an opinion as have you,if we were all the same it would be the most boring forum of all time…geez I can't agree with some of the knuckleheads on here(the Maroon coloured ones in particular),but they are all part of our forum family and we try and be civil to each other as best we can...cheers Jerry...

How many Australian mothers would say that. She doesn't show remorse fine but to crap on the whole nation of over 300 million for the evilness her two sons displayed is abhorrent. You certainly are the voice of reason TT but So that these attacks don't become a daily occurrence there is no voice of reason deserved for these maggots of society they need to be eradicated. Simple.

I'd pick my son over country ever single day of the week.

I'd crap on our country too If I had to choose between country and son.

Irrespective of her belief system, which varies a huge deal from mine, I would probably do a very similar think if provoked like she undoubtedly is.

Provoked as in her two sons kill innocent people with hidden explosives she then goes on to tell the surviving family members and all other people from the nation that gave her and her sons a chance that they will burn in hell.Hmmmm.Provoked.Yup ok.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@Yossarian said:
Sorry I have no time for conspiracy theories like this. They're insulting to the victims and misuse facts or flat out make up things to support their case. And they put the emphasis on others to disprove their thesis.

See, now this I don't understand. How is it insulting to victims by disagreeing with the official story? In theorists minds they only want the truth about what happened to the victims. Take 9/11 for example. People say its disrespectful to the victims to say it was an inside job, why? No one is attacking the victims, they're just saying they died under different circumstances to the ones that have been reported. The only theory that is disrespectful is the one where some have claimed that there were actually no victims on 9/11 and that their identities were made up. That's disrespectful to the families, but if you're going to question the Government, sure call them ''loonies'', but they're not disrespecting the families. Hell, some of the families themselves don't believe the official story, just see Jeremy Glick.

As far the Boston Bombing goes, I can only assume that the accused is responsible. Even if that's the case, people questioning it aren't disrespecting the victims, in their minds they just want the true perpetrators held responsible.

There's nothing wrong with questioning the Government, it should be encouraged.

Spot on GNR. Well said. Don't let "Big Brother" control your life. Goverment lies and brain washing go hand in hand. Always question if unsure.
 
@Tigermama said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
@Yossarian said:
Sorry I have no time for conspiracy theories like this. They're insulting to the victims and misuse facts or flat out make up things to support their case. And they put the emphasis on others to disprove their thesis.

See, now this I don't understand. How is it insulting to victims by disagreeing with the official story? In theorists minds they only want the truth about what happened to the victims. Take 9/11 for example. People say its disrespectful to the victims to say it was an inside job, why? No one is attacking the victims, they're just saying they died under different circumstances to the ones that have been reported. The only theory that is disrespectful is the one where some have claimed that there were actually no victims on 9/11 and that their identities were made up. That's disrespectful to the families, but if you're going to question the Government, sure call them ''loonies'', but they're not disrespecting the families. Hell, some of the families themselves don't believe the official story, just see Jeremy Glick.

As far the Boston Bombing goes, I can only assume that the accused is responsible. Even if that's the case, people questioning it aren't disrespecting the victims, in their minds they just want the true perpetrators held responsible.

There's nothing wrong with questioning the Government, it should be encouraged.

Spot on GNR. Well said. Don't let "Big Brother" control your life. Goverment lies and brain washing go hand in hand. Always question if unsure.

Is it possible for you guys to make a coherent argument without resorting to insulting people who don't subscribe to your theories? surely there is a middle ground where people can be sceptical without believing every major event is a government plot?
 
@Tiger In The Gong said:
@Yossarian said:
@Tiger In The Gong said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
See, now this I don't understand. How is it insulting to victims by disagreeing with the official story? In theorists minds they only want the truth about what happened to the victims. Take 9/11 for example. People say its disrespectful to the victims to say it was an inside job, why? No one is attacking the victims, they're just saying they died under different circumstances to the ones that have been reported. The only theory that is disrespectful is the one where some have claimed that there were actually no victims on 9/11 and that their identities were made up. That's disrespectful to the families, but if you're going to question the Government, sure call them ''loonies'', but they're not disrespecting the families. Hell, some of the families themselves don't believe the official story, just see Jeremy Glick.

As far the Boston Bombing goes, I can only assume that the accused is responsible. Even if that's the case, people questioning it aren't disrespecting the victims, in their minds they just want the true perpetrators held responsible.

There's nothing wrong with questioning the Government, it should be encouraged.

Exactly, its the people who question the government and look a little deeper into whats going on who care the most about human suffering.

The masses who just accept what they are being force fed are a big part of everything that is wrong with the world.

Grab another Big Mac, head down to your low socio-ecominc corner bottle shop, click on the latest Kardashian story, the things we do.

Question things, nah thats too hard.

For starters I don't appreciate the implied criticism that because I don't have time for conspiracy theories I am some sort of pop culture moron who doesn't question things. This is another issue I have with cospiracy theorists - that anyone who doesn't subscribe to their world viewpoint can be written off as naive or stupid. You know anything about me at all. On the contrary my job requires me to read and analyse a stack of information on a daily basis. If you want to discuss the failed coup in Burundi or the prospects for Haftar in Libya let me know. I have zero interest in the Kardashians or their fellow travellers.

I also have no issue with challenging the official record or government in general. But if the basis of your claim is Seth MacFarlane predicted the Boston Bombings and a key bit of evidence is a throwaway line on Family Guy that mentioned a chocolate sold at a shop near central Boston then I'm sorry but I'm not going to waste my time. If anyone has a real claim based on actual evidence let me know.

Dont take it so personally dude, was talking in general. Although you may have been quoted earlier in the conversation i was just adding to GNR's post.

Seeing as it added to a response directly referring to my position it's hard not to take it personally but I appreciate the clarification. Still think your characterisation of people who don't subscribe to conspiracy theories as being simplistic and flat out wrong. You can not buy into theories like the one floated above without being s simpleton.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@Yossarian said:
Sorry I have no time for conspiracy theories like this. They're insulting to the victims and misuse facts or flat out make up things to support their case. And they put the emphasis on others to disprove their thesis.

See, now this I don't understand. How is it insulting to victims by disagreeing with the official story? In theorists minds they only want the truth about what happened to the victims. Take 9/11 for example. People say its disrespectful to the victims to say it was an inside job, why? No one is attacking the victims, they're just saying they died under different circumstances to the ones that have been reported. The only theory that is disrespectful is the one where some have claimed that there were actually no victims on 9/11 and that their identities were made up. That's disrespectful to the families, but if you're going to question the Government, sure call them ''loonies'', but they're not disrespecting the families. Hell, some of the families themselves don't believe the official story, just see Jeremy Glick.

As far the Boston Bombing goes, I can only assume that the accused is responsible. Even if that's the case, people questioning it aren't disrespecting the victims, in their minds they just want the true perpetrators held responsible.

There's nothing wrong with questioning the Government, it should be encouraged.

The 9/11 denial crowd are the people I had in mind Guñners. Suggesting the whole thing never happened is just insulting. My mother knew someone in one of those planes. It's easy to forget the real victims. Anyway to clarify yet again I encourage questioning government but it can be done without thinking everything is a conspiracy
 
@Yossarian said:
surely there is a middle ground where people can be sceptical without believing every major event is a government plot?

i completely agree with this line of thinking. by _questioning things with your own mind_ you should not be bound to being labelled either a conspiracy theorist nutter or one of the "sheeple": i think everyone should look at things rationally and form their own opinion without giving in to either sensationalism nor propaganda and peer pressure.

having said that, i do have to pull you up on this…

@Yossarian said:
Is it possible for you guys to make a coherent argument without resorting to insulting people who don't subscribe to your theories?

…as i think it is slightly hypocritical after your hyperbolic rant at me earlier in the thread regarding extremist laws...

*shaking my head at myself: i walked away and shouldve just stayed there!! 😕
 
@Tigermama said:
My post isn't insulting anyone Yossarian. I have my beliefs, as you have yours. Let's leave it at that shall we?

I respect that mate. I just object to the suggestion that unless you subscribe to a certain viewpoint you must be ignorant to some bigger truth. That's really my only beef. People can believe what they want.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
I can see Jerry being a massive Bill O'Reilly fan

And I see you as a guy who is all too ready to say 9-11 was an inside job. Well how about the 25,000 terrorist attacks that have happened around the world since then. Were they USA inside jobs too. You guys are operating under a billion to one odds with your views and the best you can come up with is calling me a Bill O'reilly fan because I speak of inconvenient truths.

As usual I am supported by the silent majority on here but the vocal minority on here who are one of two things, Democrat loving or Arabic background refuse to call facts as facts and would just prefer to blame the white man for everything. Its sickening.Grow up.P.S a LOT more facts on Bill Oreilly than the rest of American TV WHICH IS SO POLITICALLY BIASED TOWARDS THE DEMOCRATS THEY HAVE ZERO INTEREST IN REALITY.Who do you think Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton and all the rest of Hollywood vote for.It aint Bill O'reilly that's for sure.

Such a shame that our education dept has been taken over by people like yourselves with such oppressive views where you are teaching the kids the white men is evil rather than 2 plus 2 equals 4.
 
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
I can see Jerry being a massive Bill O'Reilly fan

And I see you as a guy who is all too ready to say 9-11 was an inside job. Well how about the 25,000 terrorist attacks that have happened around the world since then. Were they USA inside jobs too. You guys are operating under a billion to one odds with your views and the best you can come up with is calling me a Bill O'reilly fan because I speak of inconvenient truths.

As usual I am supported by the silent majority on here but the vocal minority on here who are one of two things, Democrat loving or Arabic background refuse to call facts as facts and would just prefer to blame the white man for everything. Its sickening.Grow up.P.S a LOT more facts on Bill Oreilly than the rest of American TV WHICH IS SO POLITICALLY BIASED TOWARDS THE DEMOCRATS THEY HAVE ZERO INTEREST IN REALITY.Who do you think Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton and all the rest of Hollywood vote for.It aint Bill O'reilly that's for sure.

Such a shame that our education dept has been taken over by people like yourselves with such oppressive views where you are teaching the kids the white men is evil rather than 2 plus 2 equals 4.

I knew you were a Bill 'O fan. Tide goes in, tide goes out. It can't be explained can it Jerry
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
I can see Jerry being a massive Bill O'Reilly fan

And I see you as a guy who is all too ready to say 9-11 was an inside job. Well how about the 25,000 terrorist attacks that have happened around the world since then. Were they USA inside jobs too. You guys are operating under a billion to one odds with your views and the best you can come up with is calling me a Bill O'reilly fan because I speak of inconvenient truths.

As usual I am supported by the silent majority on here but the vocal minority on here who are one of two things, Democrat loving or Arabic background refuse to call facts as facts and would just prefer to blame the white man for everything. Its sickening.Grow up.P.S a LOT more facts on Bill Oreilly than the rest of American TV WHICH IS SO POLITICALLY BIASED TOWARDS THE DEMOCRATS THEY HAVE ZERO INTEREST IN REALITY.Who do you think Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton and all the rest of Hollywood vote for.It aint Bill O'reilly that's for sure.

Such a shame that our education dept has been taken over by people like yourselves with such oppressive views where you are teaching the kids the white men is evil rather than 2 plus 2 equals 4.

I knew you were a Bill 'O fan. Tide goes in, tide goes out. It can't be explained can it Jerry

Such an intelligent response GNR Make sure you don't impose your crap on the kids you teach ok.Just keep it to 2 plus 2 equals four and not the white man is the square root of all things evil. When you teach kids dribble which isn't true it is a kind of mental paedophilia ok.
 

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