Brent Kite possibly leaving Manly
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Demonborger
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Lol looks like this was gonna happen but Sheens sacking halted it and now the NRL won't register Stewart due to 300k salary breach - Manly may have blown their cap (or the telegraph is as bad as usual)
GNR4LIFE
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@alexaki said:
He was in the middle of a finals series, what would you expect? is he suppose to be doing handstands in the media in the lead up to a pre-lim final about the prospect of joining another team?
Seriously
weststigers4life
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http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nr … 6523484800
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THE NRL is refusing to register the new contract of NSW Origin fullback Brett Stewart because the Sea Eagles are in breach of next year's $5 million salary cap by $300,000.
News Limited can reveal salary cap auditor Ian Schubert travelled to the club's Narrabeen headquarters last week as part of an on-going audit as Manly try to resolve a raft of back-ended contracts.
Despite shedding a host of players, including NSW Origin forward Tony Williams and Darcy Lussick, Dean Whare, Michael Oldfield and Daniel Harrison, the 2011 premiers are still over the limit.
In terms of new recruits, the Sea Eagles have signed Richie Fa'aoso from the Melbourne Storm on a two-year deal and Brenton Lawrence from the Gold Coast on a three-year contract.
Manly chief operating officer David Perry met with Schubert last week to thrash out strategies on how the Sea Eagles can register Stewart's new four-year deal.
Perry refused to confirm the meeting and was guarded about the club's salary cap predicament.
"I don't want to make any comment other than to say we are working through the issues and we're confident Brett's contract will be registered by February," Perry said.
The Sunday Telegraph can reveal that the Sea Eagles had planned to move Brent Kite to Wests Tigers before coach Tim Sheens was sacked and the deal collapsed.
The Sea Eagles have also discussed shifting cult-figure prop George Rose, injury-prone winger David Williams and forward Vic Mauro in a bid to resolve the problem.
Mauro is on the cusp of moving to the English Super League and The Sunday Telegraph has been told that Manly officials will continue in their attempts to squeeze out Rose.
If the Sea Eagles can move Mauro and Rose, the NRL is expected to rubber-stamp Stewart's new deal.
Manly coach Geoff Toovey was unaware of any salary cap issues but blasted the NRL over the Sea Eagles being handed seven Monday night fixtures in next season's draw.
"I'm not aware of that and I'm not prepared to talk about individual contracts publicly," Toovey said.
"As far as I'm aware, everything in relation to the salary cap is OK at Manly and we're on track. It is what it is.
"When it comes to the draw for next year, we've been shafted. The TV channels obviously decide who's playing when.
"It's not fair for our fans. It's supposed to be all about a level playing field in terms of salary cap, but it's not a level playing field with the draw.
"We've got two lots of three Monday night games in a row.
"It's not really what you would call equitable for all of the teams."
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THE NRL is refusing to register the new contract of NSW Origin fullback Brett Stewart because the Sea Eagles are in breach of next year's $5 million salary cap by $300,000.
News Limited can reveal salary cap auditor Ian Schubert travelled to the club's Narrabeen headquarters last week as part of an on-going audit as Manly try to resolve a raft of back-ended contracts.
Despite shedding a host of players, including NSW Origin forward Tony Williams and Darcy Lussick, Dean Whare, Michael Oldfield and Daniel Harrison, the 2011 premiers are still over the limit.
In terms of new recruits, the Sea Eagles have signed Richie Fa'aoso from the Melbourne Storm on a two-year deal and Brenton Lawrence from the Gold Coast on a three-year contract.
Manly chief operating officer David Perry met with Schubert last week to thrash out strategies on how the Sea Eagles can register Stewart's new four-year deal.
Perry refused to confirm the meeting and was guarded about the club's salary cap predicament.
"I don't want to make any comment other than to say we are working through the issues and we're confident Brett's contract will be registered by February," Perry said.
The Sunday Telegraph can reveal that the Sea Eagles had planned to move Brent Kite to Wests Tigers before coach Tim Sheens was sacked and the deal collapsed.
The Sea Eagles have also discussed shifting cult-figure prop George Rose, injury-prone winger David Williams and forward Vic Mauro in a bid to resolve the problem.
Mauro is on the cusp of moving to the English Super League and The Sunday Telegraph has been told that Manly officials will continue in their attempts to squeeze out Rose.
If the Sea Eagles can move Mauro and Rose, the NRL is expected to rubber-stamp Stewart's new deal.
Manly coach Geoff Toovey was unaware of any salary cap issues but blasted the NRL over the Sea Eagles being handed seven Monday night fixtures in next season's draw.
"I'm not aware of that and I'm not prepared to talk about individual contracts publicly," Toovey said.
"As far as I'm aware, everything in relation to the salary cap is OK at Manly and we're on track. It is what it is.
"When it comes to the draw for next year, we've been shafted. The TV channels obviously decide who's playing when.
"It's not fair for our fans. It's supposed to be all about a level playing field in terms of salary cap, but it's not a level playing field with the draw.
"We've got two lots of three Monday night games in a row.
"It's not really what you would call equitable for all of the teams."
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weststigers4life
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I hope we are still a chance to sign Kite with the above article about Manly being 300k over the salary cap and having to offload players so they can register Stewart's contract. Knowing us, we will sign Rose instead, like the brilliant decision to go with Cashmere instead of Mason. It appears that as soon as Sheens was sacked so did our chances of signing Kite. I think he would be a great signing while we ease the young forwards in the lower grades into FG over the next 18 months.
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tigerbenji
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Tend to agree, he could be a good signing if not to much money, wouldnt mind Rose either.
@Demonborger said:
I heard on radio about a week or two back he'd re-signed with manly
weststigers4life
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Something's not adding up here, with the telegraph in today's article saying there 300k over the cap yet Manly announced on their website on Nov 3 that they had just signed 3 more player.
http://www.seaeagles.com.au/news-display/Sea-Eagles-sign-Horo-Tonga-and-Lawton/65843
The Kaspersky Sea Eagles have further strengthened their squad with three new signings for 2013.
Former Parramatta Eels players Justin Horo and Esi Tonga, along with former Gold Coast Titan Kayne Lawton, will commence pre-season training with the NRL squad this week.
Horo, 26, is an experienced and versatile back rower, having played 52 first grade games since his debut for Parramatta in 2010.
He's a powerful attacking player who constantly threatens on the edges and is just at home at centre as he is in the forwards.
"Justin's shown plenty of class at Parramatta and is sure to add to the attacking strength of our pack in 2013," Sea Eagles coach Geoff Toovey said.
Tonga, 24 made his debut for the Titans in 2008 before joining older brother Willie at the Eels in 2012\. A dynamic outside back, he will bolster the Sea Eagles' potent attack out wide.
Lawton has played a handful of NRL games for the Titans since his first grade debut in 2009\. Supremely athletic, the 23-year-old is comfortable playing at either hooker or halfback.
Toovey said the three new signings will bring plenty of versatility to the Sea Eagles squad.
"They're a talented group of players and will really add to our depth. We're looking forward to seeing them perform next year."
http://www.seaeagles.com.au/news-display/Sea-Eagles-sign-Horo-Tonga-and-Lawton/65843
The Kaspersky Sea Eagles have further strengthened their squad with three new signings for 2013.
Former Parramatta Eels players Justin Horo and Esi Tonga, along with former Gold Coast Titan Kayne Lawton, will commence pre-season training with the NRL squad this week.
Horo, 26, is an experienced and versatile back rower, having played 52 first grade games since his debut for Parramatta in 2010.
He's a powerful attacking player who constantly threatens on the edges and is just at home at centre as he is in the forwards.
"Justin's shown plenty of class at Parramatta and is sure to add to the attacking strength of our pack in 2013," Sea Eagles coach Geoff Toovey said.
Tonga, 24 made his debut for the Titans in 2008 before joining older brother Willie at the Eels in 2012\. A dynamic outside back, he will bolster the Sea Eagles' potent attack out wide.
Lawton has played a handful of NRL games for the Titans since his first grade debut in 2009\. Supremely athletic, the 23-year-old is comfortable playing at either hooker or halfback.
Toovey said the three new signings will bring plenty of versatility to the Sea Eagles squad.
"They're a talented group of players and will really add to our depth. We're looking forward to seeing them perform next year."
weststigers4life
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@Sabre said:
The Sunday Telegraph can reveal that the Sea Eagles had planned to move Brent Kite to Wests Tigers before coach Tim Sheens was sacked and the deal collapsed.
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There's been plenty of paper talk Sabre that we may be signing Kite. Who knows if there was any genuine truth to the rumor, the only people privy to that sort of info are people from within our club, Manly's club, Kite himself and his manager, everything else is just pure speculation.
BenjiMagic96
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Ill take George Rose
weststigers4life
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@LaT said:
They still have to be on at least the minimum wage but my point was the paper is claiming Manly is 300k over the cap and the NRL isn't registering Stewarts contract until they get back under the cap yet Manly signed another three players only two weeks ago. How can the NRL not register Stewarts contract if their over the cap but registered their latest recruits? Seems a bit odd to me.
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Its easy to imagine what happened: those 3 players being registered still had the Eagles cap under $5m, trying to register B Stewart put them $300k over. See?
Your next question might be "why was Stewarts deal registered after those 3?".
Stewarts deal is taking longer because the cap rise was only recently confirmed as $5m for next year, and the Eagles have been trying to weasel the contract in using backloading techniques, which is harder now because Shuey won't allow backloading in certain circumstances or in certain amounts, a situation we have found ourselves in a few times in recent years.
Your next question might be "why was Stewarts deal registered after those 3?".
Stewarts deal is taking longer because the cap rise was only recently confirmed as $5m for next year, and the Eagles have been trying to weasel the contract in using backloading techniques, which is harder now because Shuey won't allow backloading in certain circumstances or in certain amounts, a situation we have found ourselves in a few times in recent years.
weststigers4life
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@LaT said:
I vaguely remember Stewart was going to re-sign with Manly about two months ago so who knows why it still hasn't been registered. No wonder the average joe blow like myself has no idea how the salary cap works apart from the basic concept of it when clubs themselves don't seem to grasps it by having blues with Schuburt about the cap. It's imperative we need a cap but it just appears from the outside looking in to me that with back ended deals, third party deals etc it's just so complex with a few grey areas if clubs continue to breach the cap.
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LOL….so was Newtown/Singo
happy_tiger
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What they are probably wanting us to pay the full contract for Kite now
If many remember at the time we were going to share the contract 50/50 with Manly
Maybe it is not off the cards just yet ??
We release Moltzen and sign Kite Can definitely live with that
If many remember at the time we were going to share the contract 50/50 with Manly
Maybe it is not off the cards just yet ??
We release Moltzen and sign Kite Can definitely live with that
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