LIVE GAME Broncos v Tigers Rd 5

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Tigers attacking sets on the Broncos line:

• early kick into defenders, can’t handle the rebound.
• Tigers enter the 5th tackle on the front foot. Kicked dead.
• Tigers run shape, forget how to execute a pass, drop it cold.
• Tigers force issue, juggle ends in BNE try.
• Tigers stand flat footed, kick back to short side, no chasers, kick skewed, bounces into touch.

Tigers work hard to win field position, earn a repeat set, then the spine just can’t execute a basic pass or kick.
again get themselves in good field position, but everything turns into slow motion, followed by a kick dead.

Bronx scored multiple tries off grubbers behind the line. Tried it three times, worked twice.
WT tried it twice, ended in a knock on and a seven tackle set.

Koroisau’s only reliable option in the spine at WT at the moment out of Adam Doueihi, Luke Brooks, Brandon Wakeham and Daine Laurie, is John Bateman…..

Wakeham was signed as a minimum wage, backup half. You’re getting what is expected from him. The lack of anything coming from anyone else who has worn 1/6/7 this year is almost comical. Kicks on the 1st tackle whilst attacking the broncos line fresh set fark the guy off.

For where he should be, Doueihi has been most incredibly disappointing since about a month before the end of 2022.
 
Tigers attacking sets on the Broncos line:

• early kick into defenders, can’t handle the rebound.
• Tigers enter the 5th tackle on the front foot. Kicked dead.
• Tigers run shape, forget how to execute a pass, drop it cold.
• Tigers force issue, juggle ends in BNE try.
• Tigers stand flat footed, kick back to short side, no chasers, kick skewed, bounces into touch.

Tigers work hard to win field position, earn a repeat set, then the spine just can’t execute a basic pass or kick.
again get themselves in good field position, but everything turns into slow motion, followed by a kick dead.

Bronx scored multiple tries off grubbers behind the line. Tried it three times, worked twice.
WT tried it twice, ended in a knock on and a seven tackle set.

Koroisau’s only reliable option in the spine at WT at the moment out of Adam Doueihi, Luke Brooks, Brandon Wakeham and Daine Laurie, is John Bateman…..

Wakeham was signed as a minimum wage, backup half. You’re getting what is expected from him. The lack of anything coming from anyone else who has worn 1/6/7 this year is almost comical. Kicks on the 1st tackle whilst attacking the broncos line fresh set fark the guy off.

For where he should be, Doueihi has been most incredibly disappointing since about a month before the end of 2022.
Pretty straight up look at facts there.
 
There's such a difference in halves reaction. An example from Thursday night.

Smith pushes up, catches the eels marker out, looks around & has Walker on his right, Keary on his left. Tedesco would have been there too if he wasnt off. That led to a roosters try.

Api does it, looks around and fkn nothing.

There’s a clear reason why these teams are where they are.

 
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Yep my bad. Missed 7 games not 4. So 29% win rate without Brooks, 8% with based on recent history. So we're 3.4 times more likely to win when Luke Brooks doesn't play

Someone provided the stats the other day and it's more like a 40% win % with Brooks and a 20% win percentage without him.
 
I think we have to look at the problem not in terms of this or that player .
Comparing team to Broncos the obvious glaring difference is Speed !
Brooks however is a given he is not a halfback and must be moved either as a center or released . The rest of the backline are simply too slow .Its not just the Broncos who are fast the top sides all are much faster and fitter

I don't understand how Sheens stated that players need speed in their positions and then he puts AD to fullback. This is what kills me.

I'd keep Brooks and play him at 6 for the rest of the year. Staines to fullback. I'm not sure about 7 but I assume it goes to Wakeham or you could try Api and Simpkins both playing - one at 9 and one at 7.

We are still getting screwed though. We don't have the talent. My issue is that if you have principles about how to make a good team stick to those principles.
 
That's my point...it does matter!
Well we can’t change what’s been done… it’s done is what I’m getting at… if there is something we can do now then I’m all ears mate. I don’t believe in crying over ex’s. Let’s try and look for a new situation and relationship, and by that I mean what can WE do to change the front office instead of saying that they screwed past decisions and just complaining about it over and over when they don’t care obviously
 
I think Sheens is probably past his ‘use by’ date but looking at Robbie and Benji last night they looked pretty clueless I have to say. How do we extricate ourselves from a massive over-investment in dubious coaching and bring in a quality coach who has a record of achievement e.g Flanagan. Our only chance of getting quality players is to have a coach players want to play for.
Sheen was past his use by date 10 years ago
 
Listened to the presser
Sheens says he still has faith in the 17
Will obvs keep persisting

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Sheens is cooked

The club realised Sheens was cooked in 2012,it honestly amazes me that the idiots decided to bring him back as coach more than 10 years after he was sacked and he is in his 70's and not coached at this level for over a decade.Absolute shambles
 
Are we that understaffed that we need our CEO to dress up like a school kid just so we can have another hand in the warm up.
Second to that what is it Pascoe, are you or aren’t you involved / responsible for our front end of ie Football component of the Wests Tigers?
He's an inept d__khead and should be sacked along with the other 2 stooges hagi & sheens
 
The club realised Sheens was cooked in 2012,it honestly amazes me that the idiots decided to bring him back as coach more than 10 years after he was sacked and he is in his 70's and not coached at this level for over a decade.Absolute shambles
2 drongo blokes in their 70's coaching from the sidelines.

Should just hand over the reins to Benji.
 
Well we can’t change what’s been done… it’s done is what I’m getting at… if there is something we can do now then I’m all ears mate. I don’t believe in crying over ex’s. Let’s try and look for a new situation and relationship, and by that I mean what can WE do to change the front office instead of saying that they screwed past decisions and just complaining about it over and over when they don’t care obviously
Maintain the rage! Don't just say 'aahh well...what's done is done' and forget about it. It was obviously one of the worst decisions ever made and they need to be held to account and those responsible sacked!!!
And what we can do is start a petition calling for the 3 stooges to resign
 

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