Brooks Gun Shy

[king_sirro]

Some on here suggested Lachlan Coote to play 6 and Moses 7\. That would be a sensational combination.

Or perhaps we should have kept that humble quiet kid who now plays for penrith at #6?

But that would be breaking up good mates…

Don't rate him myself - letting him go was a good move.

I agree. Austin is crazy selfish. The type of player who throws his head back in despair when the ball isnt passed to him even though his team score. Hate players like that, its all about them. He would be very ordinary in Origin.

 

[happy_tiger]

Some on here suggested Lachlan Coote to play 6 and Moses 7\. That would be a sensational combination.

Or perhaps we should have kept that humble quiet kid who now plays for penrith at #6?

But that would be breaking up good mates…

Don't rate him myself - letting him go was a good move.

I agree. Austin is crazy selfish. The type of player who throws his head back in despair when the ball isnt passed to him even though his team score. Hate players like that, its all about them. He would be very ordinary in Origin.

KS Mate they are talking about Te Maire Martin :laughing:

 

[king_sirro]

Or perhaps we should have kept that humble quiet kid who now plays for penrith at #6?

But that would be breaking up good mates…

Don't rate him myself - letting him go was a good move.

I agree. Austin is crazy selfish. The type of player who throws his head back in despair when the ball isnt passed to him even though his team score. Hate players like that, its all about them. He would be very ordinary in Origin.

KS Mate they are tealking about Te Maire Martin :laughing:

Hahaha….there was another post about Austin earlier and i got mixed up. What a clown lol

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Brooks at this stage appears to be way down on confidence especially at the line, i wont go as far as to say he is scared BUT against Newcastle he appeared very nervy when defenders were anywhere near him in attack and he was to receive the ball in tight situations. We are so frightened in losing a possible superstar but at this stage he needs a stint in lower grades to build his confidence.

The bigger question may well be why is already in a tight situation when he is receiving the ball, as he looked pretty good to me in his first game and went okay in his second. A halfback needs to be allowed to run the team.

I think it fair to say that the halves have progressively struggled in the past few weeks, Brooks more so, and it is either them and/or other factors. Whilst not absolving them of blame, for mine a lot of WT problems originate before they get the ball in their hands.

Lets keep making excuses.

 

[LCA]

Not many no7's dominate when they play behind a pack of forwards that are down on power,grunt and are absolute devoid of a offload

That sums it up perfectly. He will be a force somewhere where he can get exactly that. But, it doesn't seem to be here right now.

 

[cochise]

The biggest problem with this whole Brooks situation is we are basically at decision time as far as his career goes with the WT's

We are past the promise or potential stage now

If he can't find some consistency in the next month we can't sign him or if we do it will be for probably half of what he is expecting

It is as simple as that

He will get exactly what he is expecting next year, he has an option in his favour. Tigers dont really have any say in if he will be here next year.

 

[Harvey]

I can see where some critics of Farah are coming from, they claim a slow delivery gets the halves in trouble??? But what we have not had since Farah's return is the big disappointing meltdowns of about 20 points without blinking an eyelid. It is still that last 8 minutes of the clock before half time that gets us on the downhill slide.

I thought that we had one against the Sharks, other than that we have played 2 sides whose attack was terrible

 

[TrueTiger]

Brooks at this stage appears to be way down on confidence especially at the line, i wont go as far as to say he is scared BUT against Newcastle he appeared very nervy when defenders were anywhere near him in attack and he was to receive the ball in tight situations. We are so frightened in losing a possible superstar but at this stage he needs a stint in lower grades to build his confidence.

The bigger question may well be why is already in a tight situation when he is receiving the ball, as he looked pretty good to me in his first game and went okay in his second. A halfback needs to be allowed to run the team.

I think it fair to say that the halves have progressively struggled in the past few weeks, Brooks more so, and it is either them and/or other factors. Whilst not absolving them of blame, for mine a lot of WT problems originate before they get the ball in their hands.

Lets keep making excuses.

I know I will start WW3 with what I'm about to say,but here goes,Brooks was a standout in NYC and was destined to be our future….not in my books,he has 50 NRL games under his belt and has found the huge step up to the top level overwhelming, he obviously can't handle the intensity of seasoned professionals crowding his playing style,a style that gained many plaudits in the NYC..he has found adapting to the NRL structures to hard to deal with,this is why one game he will look tremendous and the next couple very ordinary.The top playmakers are entertaining themselves at the thought of playing against him and that is why he is looking nervy and testy,forget about the forwards not doing their job or the backs not doing their job,he has to do his job first and lead this team around the park,a park full of professional rugby league players making a living working on that park.
With Arron out for a couple of weeks it will be imperative that he shows this club and team that he is more than capable at doing his job before you start demanding a substantial wage,you must show you can earn it....These next couple of games hopefully he proves me wrong and starts showing the world why he has been so hugely hyped up before coming into the FG team.

 

[Thunderlips]

Brooks and Moses are in the top 5 for try assists and line break assists in the whole comp. With Tedesco the leading try scorer and the most line breaks. It's the supporting cast and their lack of discipline that needs a good boot to the backside.

Having said that, Moses is doing all he can to take that most missed tackles title.

 

[balmain boy]

Yeah… if our forwards repeatedly get dominated our halves will struggle. Nothing new there. His decision making and execution has been poor recently though, even when he's had space.

Players go through fluctuating form. Yes he needs to improve a number of aspects but the team's attack as a whole has looked way off recently. At least he's started taking the line on more.

 

[sideline_eye]

I like Moses' style of defence. He shows no fear of big players running at him and just latches onto them, trying for all he's worth not to let go. Yes, he'll get pushed off at times but his attitude can't be faulted.

 

[underdog]

Coote rivals Tim Moltzen for being injury prone.

They are miles apart in heart though. Lachlan Coote sucks it up and plays his heart out, whilst Moltzen whinges his heart out on Twitter.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

I do agree that Brooks looks down in confidence, but am I the only person in this forum that rates Brooks honestly I do agree he's had a poor start to the season but I do think Brooks will bounce back and will turn into a star and I don't think he needs a mentor

I think Brooks has been beyond ordinary but I honestly think he has the ability to make it in the NRL. I'm not sure what is required to get him there but I don't think he needs a mentor.

Maybe he just needs lots of coaching each and every week.

Or a new club! Lol

 

[cqtiger]

I do agree that Brooks looks down in confidence, but am I the only person in this forum that rates Brooks honestly I do agree he's had a poor start to the season but I do think Brooks will bounce back and will turn into a star and I don't think he needs a mentor

I think Brooks has been beyond ordinary but I honestly think he has the ability to make it in the NRL. I'm not sure what is required to get him there but I don't think he needs a mentor.

Maybe he just needs lots of coaching each and every week.

Or a new club! Lol

I'm afraid GCT is right. Brooks will not improve by staying here. Brooks and Moses together just won't work in the NRL, not at our club anyway. One of them has to go. I'd prefer to keep Moses but toss a coin.

 

[happy_tiger]

I do agree that Brooks looks down in confidence, but am I the only person in this forum that rates Brooks honestly I do agree he's had a poor start to the season but I do think Brooks will bounce back and will turn into a star and I don't think he needs a mentor

I think Brooks has been beyond ordinary but I honestly think he has the ability to make it in the NRL. I'm not sure what is required to get him there but I don't think he needs a mentor.

Maybe he just needs lots of coaching each and every week.

Or a new club! Lol

I'm afraid GCT is right. Brooks will not improve by staying here. Brooks and Moses together just won't work in the NRL, not at our club anyway. One of them has to go. I'd prefer to keep Moses but toss a coin.

I think CQ is right

When can't carry such defensive liabilities either side of the ruck and if it comes down to just keeping one of them , it has to be Moses

 

[stevetiger]

There is no reason why Brooks can't improve here. If he has the ability he can do it at our club.

I'm not stating to keep him or that he has the ability but if he does I am 100% positive he can do it at our club.

 

[Nelson]

You can't just blame the forwards for the poor performances of the halves, they both have responsibilities to each other. Yes the forwards should help protect them in defence and should keep momentum rolling in attack plus provide options. But the halves need to build pressure. That includes both taking good last tackle options and not making excessive low percentage plays when the game doesn't require them. At the moment these two can't help but force the issue and it leads to ball being turned over and a loss of field position. That puts a big defensive load on the forwards (who don't get a breather) and then they are left drained in attack so they don't make the big charges or make the decoy runs that help the halves out. It's also just terrible for morale on the field when boneheaded plays lead to turnovers.

When they throw stupid face balls at forwards on their own 20 on the second tackle they are not making responsible decisions. The natural game of both of these guys is to play extremely aggressively in attack. Telling them to just play their natural game is not a good way to coach them, and is not good for the team. JT has gone from one extreme to the other.

People are pointing to their try assists but look at the results. We are losing reasonably high scoring games. While they may get impressive try assist stats by low percentage plays coming off we end the game with 40-45% possession because of all the ball turned over when the low percentage plays don't come off…and we lose! They need some balanced benchmarks set.

 

[Sabre]

I don't know if it's that he's gun shy, I think he seems to lack focus and intensity.
He seems like his mind is on something else a lot of the time.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

I don't know if it's that he's gun shy, I think he seems to lack focus and intensity.
He seems like his mind is on something else a lot of the time.

I agree especially in comparison to Moses. I was terrified last week every time the ball went out the left side, first time in my life I have felt that.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

This is what happens when you go with 2 young halves simultaneously. Ironically his best games were when he played alongside marshal and Anasta when Braith had his better games.

Long term Brooks may be a better option than Moses unless you feel Moses can win us a premiership like Marshall and I don't.