Brooks vs Moses

[OzLuke]

The fact that Brooks is complete and utter 3rd rate garbage that will never take the Tigers to the finals, id say Moses is better. Much better.

Bring in the mediocrity accepting fans and downvote away instead of acknowledging reality. That'll work. Im sure Brooks will do the job next year, or the year after, or the year after.

What’s Moses ever done?

Nothing much, just was the half back of a team that made the finals. Infinitely more credible as a player than Luke 'head like a funko pop doll, never lead a team to the finals in 7 seasons, always next year, meh potential, the next Andrew Johns" Brooks.

So being the halfback of the year in a dud team has no credibility??? Considering the field contained pearce, cherry evans, reynolds, johnson, cronk and thurston......

You answered your own question on the credibility of Dally M half of the year when you mentioned all the ones he beat (and you missed a few)

so you're saying effectively the award means nothing?

Like the Nobel Peace Prize. Its meaningless.

Unless you win it.....then it has meaning.....

I doubt all the halfbacks that have won it think of it as meaningless

Yeah, they probably have massive egos that think they should have won it. ITs their birth right. Meanwhile, putting in an effort to win a few games of footy and go into the finals would be nice for your supporters on a decade drought.

Yeah you're right....I guess Brooks has never put in any effort and people voting him as the best in a meaningless vote vindicates that....

But then again it's his birthright....2018 was just his turn.....

 

[The_Return]

The fact that Brooks is complete and utter 3rd rate garbage that will never take the Tigers to the finals, id say Moses is better. Much better.

Bring in the mediocrity accepting fans and downvote away instead of acknowledging reality. That'll work. Im sure Brooks will do the job next year, or the year after, or the year after.

What’s Moses ever done?

Nothing much, just was the half back of a team that made the finals. Infinitely more credible as a player than Luke 'head like a funko pop doll, never lead a team to the finals in 7 seasons, always next year, meh potential, the next Andrew Johns" Brooks.

So being the halfback of the year in a dud team has no credibility??? Considering the field contained pearce, cherry evans, reynolds, johnson, cronk and thurston......

You answered your own question on the credibility of Dally M half of the year when you mentioned all the ones he beat (and you missed a few)

so you're saying effectively the award means nothing?

Like the Nobel Peace Prize. Its meaningless.

Unless you win it.....then it has meaning.....

I doubt all the halfbacks that have won it think of it as meaningless

Yeah, they probably have massive egos that think they should have won it. ITs their birth right. Meanwhile, putting in an effort to win a few games of footy and go into the finals would be nice for your supporters on a decade drought.

Yeah you're right....I guess Brooks has never put in any effort and people voting him as the best in a meaningless vote vindicates that....

But then again it's his birthright...**.2018 was just his turn.....**

Exactly. It sure wasn't for his footy.

 

[OzLuke]

The fact that Brooks is complete and utter 3rd rate garbage that will never take the Tigers to the finals, id say Moses is better. Much better.

Bring in the mediocrity accepting fans and downvote away instead of acknowledging reality. That'll work. Im sure Brooks will do the job next year, or the year after, or the year after.

What’s Moses ever done?

Nothing much, just was the half back of a team that made the finals. Infinitely more credible as a player than Luke 'head like a funko pop doll, never lead a team to the finals in 7 seasons, always next year, meh potential, the next Andrew Johns" Brooks.

So being the halfback of the year in a dud team has no credibility??? Considering the field contained pearce, cherry evans, reynolds, johnson, cronk and thurston......

You answered your own question on the credibility of Dally M half of the year when you mentioned all the ones he beat (and you missed a few)

so you're saying effectively the award means nothing?

Like the Nobel Peace Prize. Its meaningless.

Unless you win it.....then it has meaning.....

I doubt all the halfbacks that have won it think of it as meaningless

Yeah, they probably have massive egos that think they should have won it. ITs their birth right. Meanwhile, putting in an effort to win a few games of footy and go into the finals would be nice for your supporters on a decade drought.

Yeah you're right....I guess Brooks has never put in any effort and people voting him as the best in a meaningless vote vindicates that....

But then again it's his birthright...**.2018 was just his turn.....**

Exactly. Is sure wasnt for his footy.

You're saying Brooks was no good when he won his award?

 

[The_Return]

The fact that Brooks is complete and utter 3rd rate garbage that will never take the Tigers to the finals, id say Moses is better. Much better.

Bring in the mediocrity accepting fans and downvote away instead of acknowledging reality. That'll work. Im sure Brooks will do the job next year, or the year after, or the year after.

What’s Moses ever done?

Nothing much, just was the half back of a team that made the finals. Infinitely more credible as a player than Luke 'head like a funko pop doll, never lead a team to the finals in 7 seasons, always next year, meh potential, the next Andrew Johns" Brooks.

So being the halfback of the year in a dud team has no credibility??? Considering the field contained pearce, cherry evans, reynolds, johnson, cronk and thurston......

You answered your own question on the credibility of Dally M half of the year when you mentioned all the ones he beat (and you missed a few)

so you're saying effectively the award means nothing?

Like the Nobel Peace Prize. Its meaningless.

Unless you win it.....then it has meaning.....

I doubt all the halfbacks that have won it think of it as meaningless

Yeah, they probably have massive egos that think they should have won it. ITs their birth right. Meanwhile, putting in an effort to win a few games of footy and go into the finals would be nice for your supporters on a decade drought.

Yeah you're right....I guess Brooks has never put in any effort and people voting him as the best in a meaningless vote vindicates that....

But then again it's his birthright...**.2018 was just his turn.....**

Exactly. Is sure wasnt for his footy.

You're saying Brooks was no good when he won his award?

Im saying Brooks has played literally 5 good games in a 145 game career. Putrid player that wouldnt get a start as a half back in Muswellbrook Group 21. Thats how much i think of him. The only evidence i can produce is his appalling percentage of win/loss ratio and finals played.

= garbage.

 

[cochise]

The fact that Brooks is complete and utter 3rd rate garbage that will never take the Tigers to the finals, id say Moses is better. Much better.

Bring in the mediocrity accepting fans and downvote away instead of acknowledging reality. That'll work. Im sure Brooks will do the job next year, or the year after, or the year after.

What’s Moses ever done?

Nothing much, just was the half back of a team that made the finals. Infinitely more credible as a player than Luke 'head like a funko pop doll, never lead a team to the finals in 7 seasons, always next year, meh potential, the next Andrew Johns" Brooks.

So being the halfback of the year in a dud team has no credibility??? Considering the field contained pearce, cherry evans, reynolds, johnson, cronk and thurston......

You answered your own question on the credibility of Dally M half of the year when you mentioned all the ones he beat (and you missed a few)

so you're saying effectively the award means nothing?

Like the Nobel Peace Prize. Its meaningless.

Unless you win it.....then it has meaning.....

I doubt all the halfbacks that have won it think of it as meaningless

Yeah, they probably have massive egos that think they should have won it. ITs their birth right. Meanwhile, putting in an effort to win a few games of footy and go into the finals would be nice for your supporters on a decade drought.

Yeah you're right....I guess Brooks has never put in any effort and people voting him as the best in a meaningless vote vindicates that....

But then again it's his birthright...**.2018 was just his turn.....**

Exactly. Is sure wasnt for his footy.

You're saying Brooks was no good when he won his award?

Im saying Brooks has played literally 5 good games in a 145 game career. Putrid player that wouldnt get a start as a half back in Muswellbrook Group 21. Thats how much i think of him. The only evidence i can produce is his appalling percentage of win/loss ratio and finals played.

= garbage.

Well he is better than Foran who plays for Aberdeen and who would want to play for the Rams anyway.

 

[OzLuke]

The fact that Brooks is complete and utter 3rd rate garbage that will never take the Tigers to the finals, id say Moses is better. Much better.

Bring in the mediocrity accepting fans and downvote away instead of acknowledging reality. That'll work. Im sure Brooks will do the job next year, or the year after, or the year after.

What’s Moses ever done?

Nothing much, just was the half back of a team that made the finals. Infinitely more credible as a player than Luke 'head like a funko pop doll, never lead a team to the finals in 7 seasons, always next year, meh potential, the next Andrew Johns" Brooks.

So being the halfback of the year in a dud team has no credibility??? Considering the field contained pearce, cherry evans, reynolds, johnson, cronk and thurston......

You answered your own question on the credibility of Dally M half of the year when you mentioned all the ones he beat (and you missed a few)

so you're saying effectively the award means nothing?

Like the Nobel Peace Prize. Its meaningless.

Unless you win it.....then it has meaning.....

I doubt all the halfbacks that have won it think of it as meaningless

Yeah, they probably have massive egos that think they should have won it. ITs their birth right. Meanwhile, putting in an effort to win a few games of footy and go into the finals would be nice for your supporters on a decade drought.

Yeah you're right....I guess Brooks has never put in any effort and people voting him as the best in a meaningless vote vindicates that....

But then again it's his birthright...**.2018 was just his turn.....**

Exactly. Is sure wasnt for his footy.

You're saying Brooks was no good when he won his award?

Im saying Brooks has played literally 5 good games in a 145 game career. Putrid player that wouldnt get a start as a half back in Muswellbrook Group 21. Thats how much i think of him. The only evidence i can produce is his appalling percentage of win/loss ratio and finals played.

= garbage.

Thankfully he played all those in 18......

I'd still take him over Moses....

With a better pack in front of him next season it'll be great to watch.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

In retrospect, this should have been a Moses vs Cleary thread. No arguing then.

 

[Chainlink]

if they had stayed together, I think they would've made a good combo.

Moses: sets up more tries, better bombs, more enthusiastic, can push a pass and better support play
Brooks: better defence, short kicking game, faster, better with clutch plays

But, Brooks will always be 100x the man Mitchell will ever be. Low life sook

Club got their positions mixed in my opinion. Tried to force a naturally introverted Brooks into the game controller and a naturally confident (read somewhat arrogant) Moses into a support act.

Can only wonder now how things may / may not be different if they swapped numbers and expectations.

 

[The_Return]

The fact that Brooks is complete and utter 3rd rate garbage that will never take the Tigers to the finals, id say Moses is better. Much better.

Bring in the mediocrity accepting fans and downvote away instead of acknowledging reality. That'll work. Im sure Brooks will do the job next year, or the year after, or the year after.

What’s Moses ever done?

Nothing much, just was the half back of a team that made the finals. Infinitely more credible as a player than Luke 'head like a funko pop doll, never lead a team to the finals in 7 seasons, always next year, meh potential, the next Andrew Johns" Brooks.

So being the halfback of the year in a dud team has no credibility??? Considering the field contained pearce, cherry evans, reynolds, johnson, cronk and thurston......

You answered your own question on the credibility of Dally M half of the year when you mentioned all the ones he beat (and you missed a few)

so you're saying effectively the award means nothing?

Like the Nobel Peace Prize. Its meaningless.

Unless you win it.....then it has meaning.....

I doubt all the halfbacks that have won it think of it as meaningless

Yeah, they probably have massive egos that think they should have won it. ITs their birth right. Meanwhile, putting in an effort to win a few games of footy and go into the finals would be nice for your supporters on a decade drought.

Yeah you're right....I guess Brooks has never put in any effort and people voting him as the best in a meaningless vote vindicates that....

But then again it's his birthright...**.2018 was just his turn.....**

Exactly. Is sure wasnt for his footy.

You're saying Brooks was no good when he won his award?

Im saying Brooks has played literally 5 good games in a 145 game career. Putrid player that wouldnt get a start as a half back in Muswellbrook Group 21. Thats how much i think of him. The only evidence i can produce is his appalling percentage of win/loss ratio and finals played.

= garbage.

Well he is better than Foran who plays for Aberdeen and who would want to play for the Rams anyway.

He might be a chance with Denman.

 

[The_Return]

The fact that Brooks is complete and utter 3rd rate garbage that will never take the Tigers to the finals, id say Moses is better. Much better.

Bring in the mediocrity accepting fans and downvote away instead of acknowledging reality. That'll work. Im sure Brooks will do the job next year, or the year after, or the year after.

What’s Moses ever done?

Nothing much, just was the half back of a team that made the finals. Infinitely more credible as a player than Luke 'head like a funko pop doll, never lead a team to the finals in 7 seasons, always next year, meh potential, the next Andrew Johns" Brooks.

So being the halfback of the year in a dud team has no credibility??? Considering the field contained pearce, cherry evans, reynolds, johnson, cronk and thurston......

You answered your own question on the credibility of Dally M half of the year when you mentioned all the ones he beat (and you missed a few)

so you're saying effectively the award means nothing?

Like the Nobel Peace Prize. Its meaningless.

Unless you win it.....then it has meaning.....

I doubt all the halfbacks that have won it think of it as meaningless

Yeah, they probably have massive egos that think they should have won it. ITs their birth right. Meanwhile, putting in an effort to win a few games of footy and go into the finals would be nice for your supporters on a decade drought.

Yeah you're right....I guess Brooks has never put in any effort and people voting him as the best in a meaningless vote vindicates that....

But then again it's his birthright...**.2018 was just his turn.....**

Exactly. Is sure wasnt for his footy.

You're saying Brooks was no good when he won his award?

Im saying Brooks has played literally 5 good games in a 145 game career. Putrid player that wouldnt get a start as a half back in Muswellbrook Group 21. Thats how much i think of him. The only evidence i can produce is his appalling percentage of win/loss ratio and finals played.

= garbage.

Thankfully he played all those in 18......

I'd still take him over Moses....

With a better pack in front of him next season it'll be great to watch.

I have to admire your faith.

 

[cochise]

The fact that Brooks is complete and utter 3rd rate garbage that will never take the Tigers to the finals, id say Moses is better. Much better.

Bring in the mediocrity accepting fans and downvote away instead of acknowledging reality. That'll work. Im sure Brooks will do the job next year, or the year after, or the year after.

What’s Moses ever done?

Nothing much, just was the half back of a team that made the finals. Infinitely more credible as a player than Luke 'head like a funko pop doll, never lead a team to the finals in 7 seasons, always next year, meh potential, the next Andrew Johns" Brooks.

So being the halfback of the year in a dud team has no credibility??? Considering the field contained pearce, cherry evans, reynolds, johnson, cronk and thurston......

You answered your own question on the credibility of Dally M half of the year when you mentioned all the ones he beat (and you missed a few)

so you're saying effectively the award means nothing?

Like the Nobel Peace Prize. Its meaningless.

Unless you win it.....then it has meaning.....

I doubt all the halfbacks that have won it think of it as meaningless

Yeah, they probably have massive egos that think they should have won it. ITs their birth right. Meanwhile, putting in an effort to win a few games of footy and go into the finals would be nice for your supporters on a decade drought.

Yeah you're right....I guess Brooks has never put in any effort and people voting him as the best in a meaningless vote vindicates that....

But then again it's his birthright...**.2018 was just his turn.....**

Exactly. Is sure wasnt for his footy.

You're saying Brooks was no good when he won his award?

Im saying Brooks has played literally 5 good games in a 145 game career. Putrid player that wouldnt get a start as a half back in Muswellbrook Group 21. Thats how much i think of him. The only evidence i can produce is his appalling percentage of win/loss ratio and finals played.

= garbage.

Well he is better than Foran who plays for Aberdeen and who would want to play for the Rams anyway.

He might be a chance with Denman.

Shame the Sharks are no longer around, or maybe the Bunnan Bears?

 

[watersider]

People underrate Brooks here. He's not a match winner but he's serviceable. I'd say he's more valuable than a player like Kyle Flanagan but not quite as good as Chad Townsend. I think you can win with him.

Moses, at this stage in his career, cannot handle pressure and is therefore not a reliable or effective player to have on the team. Sure, capable of a highlight reel play against us but is rubbish when it really matters. Wasn't he the one that threw the intercept against Canberra at Leichhardt a few years ago when a win would have seen us into the finals? He was awful that day and is really bad in big games. Maybe he'll turn that around, but he hasn't yet.

I'd take Brooks over Moses and hope to get a match winning dominant half partner for him. With Moses as a defensive liability and mentally fragile, I wouldn't want that in my team if I was trying to win a premiership.

On a side note, Gutho was really strong and had a great game, but he has a similar sort of high risk game like Benji and Robbie which also makes it hard to rely on him. He's everything to Parra, but they won't compete with the top tier teams with Moses and Gutho in the side. I agree with other comments on the fact that Dylan Brown is a better prospect than either Moses or Brooks.

 

[05TIGZZ]

I couldnt even be bothered reading 7 pages of rubbish.

Moses owns Brooks.

***If only we could turn back time.**^

We’d have punted him sooner. Don’t need chokers.

If Brooks can get us to one finals campaign then let’s talk.

 

[jrtiger]

a lot of people saying that Brooks isn't a matchwinner, when he slotted a field goal with a minute to go against the Dogs, put a pinpoint kick through to Doueihi for us to beat Manly, and if it wasn't for a cracking tackle from Gutherson he put Garner into space with 4 minutes to go against Parra. when the game is on the line he can do it, Moses on the other hand is nowhere to be found. give him a preseason without Marshall and with Liddle giving him quick, quality ball from acting half and watch how he improves.

 

[cktiger]

a lot of people saying that Brooks isn't a matchwinner, when he slotted a field goal with a minute to go against the Dogs, put a pinpoint kick through to Doueihi for us to beat Manly, and if it wasn't for a cracking tackle from Gutherson he put Garner into space with 4 minutes to go against Parra. when the game is on the line he can do it, Moses on the other hand is nowhere to be found. give him a preseason without Marshall and with Liddle giving him quick, quality ball from acting half and watch how he improves.

7 seasons and you’ve got a field goal and bomb?

 

[frullens]

ESPN ranked the nrl halfbacks in March this year:
https://www.espn.com/nrl/story/_/id/28838955/espn-ranks-nrl-halfbacks-ahead-2020-season

16. Lachlan Lewis - Canterbury Bulldogs
15. Kyle Flanagan - Sydney Roosters
14. Blake Green - New Zealand Warriors
13. Ashley Taylor - Gold Coast Titans
12. Michael Morgan - North Queensland Cowboys
11. Chad Townsend - Cronulla Sharks
10. Brodie Croft - Brisbane Broncos
9. Jahrome Hughes - Melbourne Storm
8. Ben Hunt - St George Illawarra Dragons
7. George Williams - Canberra Raiders
6. Mitchell Pearce - Newcastle Knights
5. Nathan Cleary - Penrith Panthers
**4. Luke Brooks - Wests Tigers
3. Mitchell Moses - Parramatta Eels**
2. Adam Reynolds - South Sydney Rabbitohs
1. Daly Cherry-Evans - Manly Warringah Sea Eagles

Luke Brooks - Wests Tigers
The Tigers half had a mixed season in 2019, after his Dally M halfback of the year season in 2018. At his best he can change the course of a contest with his kicking and passing games. His first problem this season will be finding a combination with whoever takes the hooking role following Robbie Farah's retirement. Brooks needs to take greater control of the game, which is not always easy with Benji Marshall running around.

Mitchell Moses - Parramatta Eels
The 2019 Dally M halfback of the year, Moses proved himself to be a match-winner as the Eels charged towards a place in the finals. He has all the attributes of a quality half, in his kicking, passing and game management skills. He also has a blistering turn of pace and is hard to contain when on the attack. He just needs to improve his defence and composure under pressure and he'll push Cleary for that Blues jersey.


Obviously they've misjudged Cleary and a few others.

**But from this list who would you have at WT over Brooks?**

I'd only have Reynolds, DCE and Cleary (but I could only cheer for Reynolds)

 

[jrtiger]

a lot of people saying that Brooks isn't a matchwinner, when he slotted a field goal with a minute to go against the Dogs, put a pinpoint kick through to Doueihi for us to beat Manly, and if it wasn't for a cracking tackle from Gutherson he put Garner into space with 4 minutes to go against Parra. when the game is on the line he can do it, Moses on the other hand is nowhere to be found. give him a preseason without Marshall and with Liddle giving him quick, quality ball from acting half and watch how he improves.

7 seasons and you’ve got a field goal and bomb?

that's this year. I'm sure if I went back through the years you'd find more if your heart so desires. point is, in the last few months of the season when it was on the line he wanted the ball in his hands.

 

[cktiger]

ESPN ranked the nrl halfbacks in March this year:
https://www.espn.com/nrl/story/_/id/28838955/espn-ranks-nrl-halfbacks-ahead-2020-season

16. Lachlan Lewis - Canterbury Bulldogs
15. Kyle Flanagan - Sydney Roosters
14. Blake Green - New Zealand Warriors
13. Ashley Taylor - Gold Coast Titans
12. Michael Morgan - North Queensland Cowboys
11. Chad Townsend - Cronulla Sharks
10. Brodie Croft - Brisbane Broncos
9. Jahrome Hughes - Melbourne Storm
8. Ben Hunt - St George Illawarra Dragons
7. George Williams - Canberra Raiders
6. Mitchell Pearce - Newcastle Knights
5. Nathan Cleary - Penrith Panthers
**4. Luke Brooks - Wests Tigers
3. Mitchell Moses - Parramatta Eels**
2. Adam Reynolds - South Sydney Rabbitohs
1. Daly Cherry-Evans - Manly Warringah Sea Eagles

Luke Brooks - Wests Tigers
The Tigers half had a mixed season in 2019, after his Dally M halfback of the year season in 2018. At his best he can change the course of a contest with his kicking and passing games. His first problem this season will be finding a combination with whoever takes the hooking role following Robbie Farah's retirement. Brooks needs to take greater control of the game, which is not always easy with Benji Marshall running around.

Mitchell Moses - Parramatta Eels
The 2019 Dally M halfback of the year, Moses proved himself to be a match-winner as the Eels charged towards a place in the finals. He has all the attributes of a quality half, in his kicking, passing and game management skills. He also has a blistering turn of pace and is hard to contain when on the attack. He just needs to improve his defence and composure under pressure and he'll push Cleary for that Blues jersey.


Obviously they've misjudged Cleary and a few others.

**But from this list who would you have at WT over Brooks?**

I'd only have Reynolds, DCE and Cleary (but I could only cheer for Reynolds)

That was done prior to this years games.... Brooks wouldn’t be at the pointy end after a dismal year that saw him benched.
I really hope for a miracle but can’t see him ever being much more than he is now.

 

[Cairnstigers]

This what one Parra fan thinks of him - LOL - i thought it must have been a WT forum member who snuck in to their forum.

Don't blame Moses??? The little coward was missing all night and when it mattered most he misses a conversion Stephen Hawking could of thrown over. He had absolutely nothing to do with any of our tries tonight and we looked far more dangerous when he was nowhere near the ball. Paulo and Guth played more first receiver than he did. He's not a 7's ........... he's a running 6 at best i have been saying this since 2017. Too bad the bald muppet in charge doesn't have a ............ clue.

Alan Hunt October 11, 2020 at 1:48am
We don't have anyone capable of playing 7 at the entire club, there is not a lot on the market either. We are stuck with him and Bea Arthur and more mediocrity.

unt October 11, 2020 at 2:05am
Who are you again you abusive worm??? Angry Eel indeed. **Moses is a down hill sking gutless little worm just like you. Moses struts around like he's king ............ abuses team mates for mistakers yet he has done nothing and won nothing. He still has no idea how to pace a game let alone lead a team around the park. In their 20 m zone he was MIA for almost the entire game. It's not all his fault though because you can't lay all the blame on him when you have a coach who is better suited to the Grafton Ghosts**.

Kenny Edwards
Is that you

 

[watersider]

a lot of people saying that Brooks isn't a matchwinner, when he slotted a field goal with a minute to go against the Dogs, put a pinpoint kick through to Doueihi for us to beat Manly, and if it wasn't for a cracking tackle from Gutherson he put Garner into space with 4 minutes to go against Parra. when the game is on the line he can do it, Moses on the other hand is nowhere to be found. give him a preseason without Marshall and with Liddle giving him quick, quality ball from acting half and watch how he improves.

I like your support of him, and I agree he can finish games and isn't someone who panics in important moments, but if you compare him to Cleary he can't consistently sustain a strong kicking game or make good decisions all the time so for that reason I don't think he's someone who can lift a team, or guide them and therefore he's not a matchwinner. I just think DCE and Cleary and Keary and probably Whighton now, just have that ability to control a game and step up at decisive moments. It's not really a criticism of Brooks to say he isn't that, so few players are, but he too often fluffs a kick in attacking position or throws a hospital pass when we have the advantage or doesn't find space in his clearing kicks. I think he has all the skills, he just doesn't have that mindset, that desire that the other players have.