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This isnt a question on whether Brooks is a good little moral choir boy or is Moses a petulant child. The question was who is the better player. Not picking Moses, you need your head read and shows just how much you know about footy. buggar all.
 
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247368) said:
This isnt a question on whether Brooks is a good little moral choir boy or is Moses a petulant child. The question was who is the better player. Not picking Moses, you need your head read and shows just how much you know about footy. buggar all.

What has he ever done that puts him above Brooks though?
 
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This isnt a question on whether Brooks is a good little moral choir boy or is Moses a petulant child. The question was who is the better player. Not picking Moses, you need your head read and shows just how much you know about footy. buggar all.

What has he ever done that puts him above Brooks though?

Can put on at least 1 attacking play a half. Far superior immediately.
 
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247370) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247369) said:
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247368) said:
This isnt a question on whether Brooks is a good little moral choir boy or is Moses a petulant child. The question was who is the better player. Not picking Moses, you need your head read and shows just how much you know about footy. buggar all.

What has he ever done that puts him above Brooks though?

Can put on at least 1 attacking play a half. Far superior immediately.

Except in big games obviously. A very broad example btw.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247372) said:
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@GNR4LIFE said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247369) said:
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247368) said:
This isnt a question on whether Brooks is a good little moral choir boy or is Moses a petulant child. The question was who is the better player. Not picking Moses, you need your head read and shows just how much you know about footy. buggar all.

What has he ever done that puts him above Brooks though?

Can put on at least 1 attacking play a half. Far superior immediately.

Except in big games obviously. A very broad example btw.

So youre saying a couple of bad games a season from Moses far outweighs Brooks entire years/seasons of poor games? Not sure how that makes Brooks a better player in your eyes. Moses did enough for his team to make the finals and win games throughout the season, Brooks goes missing for entire halves if not entire games but viola, is a better player. Confusing.
 
The Eels’ title drought will roll into a 35th year. Now all eyes are on their fading $2.5m star
EELS
Simon Brunsdon
October 12, 2020 11:46am
SIMON BRUNSDON@simonbrunsdon
Source: FOX SPORTS

Experts are questioning whether Mitchell Moses is the right man to lead Parramatta to a drought-breaking premiership after the Eels crashed out of finals on Saturday.

The proud blue and gold club hasn’t won a title since Peter Sterling and Brett Kenny led them to a grand final victory in 1986.

Moses was brought to the club in 2017 with the hope he could be the player to replicate what Sterling did 34 years ago, but he’s yet to deliver.

He missed a crucial penalty goal in the semi final loss to South Sydney but that mistake only points to a much larger picture for the embattled No.7.

“I think he should have done better than what he has,” senior News Corp journalist Phil Rothfield told Big Sports Breakfast on Monday.

“You get someone like Mitchell Moses who has been around the block a few times, and he is on halfback money - 700 or $750,000... same with Luke Brooks.

“The moment you stick that No.7 jersey on there is that expectation that you are the quarterback, the team leader on the football field. They often overrule the captain with tactical decisions out on the field.

“It’s no fluke the best four halfbacks in the competition, their teams are still alive and playing preliminary finals.”

League legend and one of rugby league’s best ever playmakers, Laurie Daley, agreed Moses’ performances in big games have often been underwhelming.

The Eels have arguably the most in-form prop pairing in the NRL this season with Reagan Campbell-Gillard and Junior Paulo laying a solid platform for the team.

**Moses also has Immortal halfback Andrew Johns in his corner, who was brought to the Eels this year in the hope he could be the key to Moses fulfilling his potential.**

“This will be a story that will go deep into the off-season, about Mitch Moses,” Daley said.

**“They’ve faded the last couple of years, and they’ve had the forward pack, they’ve had the ability.”**

Moses was once touted as a future NSW State of Origin star but it’s fair to say he’s failed to live up to that hype so far in his seven years playing first grade.

And at 26 years of age he should be coming into the peak of his career as a playmaker.

He was last year crowned the Dally M Halfback of the Year after laying on 31 try assists and leading the Eels from a 2018 wooden spoon to fifth place on the ladder.

In season 2020 he had only nine try assists and took a back seat to his captain and fullback Clint Gutherson who laid on 19 and was star of the show.

Champion halfback Cooper Cronk fears Moses has tried to strengthen his weakness and in turn has neglected his biggest strength.

A fortnight before Saturday’s semi final loss, he was the target of some brutal Cronk analysis, who had just watched Moses lay on two Eels tries in a win over last-placed Brisbane, but the champion halfback wasn’t as impressed as some onlookers.

**“Mitchell Moses for me again, he did some nice things and set up one try but he had five errors … three of them were bad passes and two seven-tackle sets,” Cronk told Fox League.**

“In big games you just can’t play like that and expect to dominate and win football games.

“There’s no doubt he’s got to play to his strengths. His strength is running the football and I think this year he’s changed his identity and become a little bit more of a manager of a football team.

“And he has to because to be a gun halfback in this competition you need to be good at a lot of different things to control the result of a football game.

“But for Mitchell to play his best football he needs to play to his strengths – his strengths are getting the ball early, taking the line on and coming up with some nice X-factor plays that can get his team over the line.

“But, in among all that he needs to control the tempo of his game, hit the accelerator when it needs to be hit but to also tone it back.

“Now, to have five errors in a big finals game, that will cost you coming up against the Panthers, Storm or the Roosters.”

Moses signed a contact extension last year which ties him to Parramatta until the end of 2022 and is worth about $800,000 a year.
 
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@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247368) said:
This isnt a question on whether Brooks is a good little moral choir boy or is Moses a petulant child. The question was who is the better player. Not picking Moses, you need your head read and shows just how much you know about footy. buggar all.

What has he ever done that puts him above Brooks though?

Can put on at least 1 attacking play a half. Far superior immediately.

Except in big games obviously. A very broad example btw.

***So youre saying a couple of bad games a season from Moses*** far outweighs Brooks entire years/seasons of poor games? Not sure how that makes Brooks a better player in your eyes. Moses did enough for his team to make the finals and win games throughout the season, Brooks goes missing for entire halves if not entire games but viola, is a better player. Confusing.

Exactly. Those bad games always come at crunch time, when the great players usually stand up. The comparison isn’t Brooks and Cleary, which would give your view some merit, it’s a player who if better, is so only marginally.
 
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247374) said:
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@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247370) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247369) said:
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247368) said:
This isnt a question on whether Brooks is a good little moral choir boy or is Moses a petulant child. The question was who is the better player. Not picking Moses, you need your head read and shows just how much you know about footy. buggar all.

What has he ever done that puts him above Brooks though?

Can put on at least 1 attacking play a half. Far superior immediately.

Except in big games obviously. A very broad example btw.

So youre saying a couple of bad games a season from Moses far outweighs Brooks entire years/seasons of poor games? Not sure how that makes Brooks a better player in your eyes. Moses did enough for his team to make the finals and win games throughout the season, Brooks goes missing for entire halves if not entire games but viola, is a better player. Confusing.

Moses has been terrible for pretty much half the season now. I have a Parra mate who gloated about getting him off us for ages now he’s saying the same things I was alluding to. Goes missing in big games, terrible defensive reads etc

Parra haven’t advanced passed week 2 in their last 3 years of him being the main playmaker. That is actually frighteningly bad and highlights how average he is
 
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247371) said:
The Tigers will never make the Finals with Brooks as half back. Been saying it since 2015. I never get tired of being correct.

You like that we don't play finals just so you are correct?

I'm tired of not playing finals.
 
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247371) said:
The Tigers will never make the Finals with Brooks as half back. Been saying it since 2015. I never get tired of being correct.

Could I ask whether you would be happy with Moses again trying to lead you into the finals?
 
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The fact that Brooks is complete and utter 3rd rate garbage that will never take the Tigers to the finals, id say Moses is better. Much better.

Bring in the mediocrity accepting fans and downvote away instead of acknowledging reality. That'll work. Im sure Brooks will do the job next year, or the year after, or the year after.

What’s Moses ever done?

Nothing much, just was the half back of a team that made the finals. Infinitely more credible as a player than Luke 'head like a funko pop doll, never lead a team to the finals in 7 seasons, always next year, meh potential, the next Andrew Johns" Brooks.

So being the halfback of the year in a dud team has no credibility??? Considering the field contained pearce, cherry evans, reynolds, johnson, cronk and thurston......

You answered your own question on the credibility of Dally M half of the year when you mentioned all the ones he beat (and you missed a few)

so you're saying effectively the award means nothing?

Like the Nobel Peace Prize. Its meaningless.

Unless you win it.....then it has meaning.....

I doubt all the halfbacks that have won it think of it as meaningless

Yeah, they probably have massive egos that think they should have won it. ITs their birth right. Meanwhile, putting in an effort to win a few games of footy and go into the finals would be nice for your supporters on a decade drought.

Yeah you're right....I guess Brooks has never put in any effort and people voting him as the best in a meaningless vote vindicates that....

But then again it's his birthright...**.2018 was just his turn.....**

Exactly. Is sure wasnt for his footy.

You're saying Brooks was no good when he won his award?

Im saying Brooks has played literally 5 good games in a 145 game career. Putrid player that wouldnt get a start as a half back in Muswellbrook Group 21. Thats how much i think of him. The only evidence i can produce is his appalling percentage of win/loss ratio and finals played.

= garbage.

Well doesn't say much about your ethics when you support a "Tanker"

Undermines every supposedly credible word you tried to put forward on his behalf.

Let alone that he chokes at the drop of a hat. - he is nothing more than a pathetic little sook.

Doesnt say much about your support of the club when you support a proven loser. Try not to wish the club nothing but mediocrity and try to support a wining culture. Dont suffer from schadenfreude. You can do better.

Does playing finals make Moses a winner...

His team has bombed out every time in straight sets..not sure that describes a winning culture

Id take a 50% + wins in a season and finals games over the failure that "Brooks'Team" dishes out every season for the last 7 times.

Im sure all those other 15 teams that can actually make a final in a decade, if they had to choose, they sure would describe Parra as a winning team when the alterative is the Tigers.

Your argument appears to rest solely on the idea of wins and finals appearances, that Moses is better than Brooks because his team plays finals sometimes. Doesn't seem to matter how they perform in the finals.

If you put Luke Brooks in Storm colours 2021 does he finally play finals? And is that down to him or down to the club?

The legitimate problem Parramatta has is they've had terrible terrible results for many seasons, and after finally starting to build a team that can compete, have crashed out miserably several seasons in a row.

Now as a Tigers fan we'd all probably be happy just to have the chance to crash out of the finals several times in a row. But for Eels fans, that result doesn't cut it after one or two campaigns. I'm honestly not sure which is worse - making the finals a la Eels or Sharks and making no dent whatsoever, or not even being there in the first place. Certainly less stress with outcome #2 and questionable additional bragging rights outcome #1.
 
@Geo said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247377) said:
Experts are questioning whether Mitchell Moses is the right man to lead Parramatta to a drought-breaking premiership after the Eels crashed out of finals on Saturday.

Glad the "experts" have caught up to the rest of us.
 
@Geo said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247377) said:
The Eels’ title drought will roll into a 35th year. Now all eyes are on their fading $2.5m star
EELS
Simon Brunsdon
October 12, 2020 11:46am
SIMON BRUNSDON@simonbrunsdon
Source: FOX SPORTS

Experts are questioning whether Mitchell Moses is the right man to lead Parramatta to a drought-breaking premiership after the Eels crashed out of finals on Saturday.

The proud blue and gold club hasn’t won a title since Peter Sterling and Brett Kenny led them to a grand final victory in 1986.

Moses was brought to the club in 2017 with the hope he could be the player to replicate what Sterling did 34 years ago, but he’s yet to deliver.

He missed a crucial penalty goal in the semi final loss to South Sydney but that mistake only points to a much larger picture for the embattled No.7.

“I think he should have done better than what he has,” senior News Corp journalist Phil Rothfield told Big Sports Breakfast on Monday.

“You get someone like Mitchell Moses who has been around the block a few times, and he is on halfback money - 700 or $750,000... same with Luke Brooks.

“The moment you stick that No.7 jersey on there is that expectation that you are the quarterback, the team leader on the football field. They often overrule the captain with tactical decisions out on the field.

“It’s no fluke the best four halfbacks in the competition, their teams are still alive and playing preliminary finals.”

League legend and one of rugby league’s best ever playmakers, Laurie Daley, agreed Moses’ performances in big games have often been underwhelming.

The Eels have arguably the most in-form prop pairing in the NRL this season with Reagan Campbell-Gillard and Junior Paulo laying a solid platform for the team.

**Moses also has Immortal halfback Andrew Johns in his corner, who was brought to the Eels this year in the hope he could be the key to Moses fulfilling his potential.**

“This will be a story that will go deep into the off-season, about Mitch Moses,” Daley said.

**“They’ve faded the last couple of years, and they’ve had the forward pack, they’ve had the ability.”**

Moses was once touted as a future NSW State of Origin star but it’s fair to say he’s failed to live up to that hype so far in his seven years playing first grade.

And at 26 years of age he should be coming into the peak of his career as a playmaker.

He was last year crowned the Dally M Halfback of the Year after laying on 31 try assists and leading the Eels from a 2018 wooden spoon to fifth place on the ladder.

In season 2020 he had only nine try assists and took a back seat to his captain and fullback Clint Gutherson who laid on 19 and was star of the show.

Champion halfback Cooper Cronk fears Moses has tried to strengthen his weakness and in turn has neglected his biggest strength.

A fortnight before Saturday’s semi final loss, he was the target of some brutal Cronk analysis, who had just watched Moses lay on two Eels tries in a win over last-placed Brisbane, but the champion halfback wasn’t as impressed as some onlookers.

**“Mitchell Moses for me again, he did some nice things and set up one try but he had five errors … three of them were bad passes and two seven-tackle sets,” Cronk told Fox League.**

“In big games you just can’t play like that and expect to dominate and win football games.

“There’s no doubt he’s got to play to his strengths. His strength is running the football and I think this year he’s changed his identity and become a little bit more of a manager of a football team.

“And he has to because to be a gun halfback in this competition you need to be good at a lot of different things to control the result of a football game.

“But for Mitchell to play his best football he needs to play to his strengths – his strengths are getting the ball early, taking the line on and coming up with some nice X-factor plays that can get his team over the line.

“But, in among all that he needs to control the tempo of his game, hit the accelerator when it needs to be hit but to also tone it back.

“Now, to have five errors in a big finals game, that will cost you coming up against the Panthers, Storm or the Roosters.”

Moses signed a contact extension last year which ties him to Parramatta until the end of 2022 and is worth about $800,000 a year.

Bitchell is the perfect fit for the Slimers imo
 
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The fact that Brooks is complete and utter 3rd rate garbage that will never take the Tigers to the finals, id say Moses is better. Much better.

Bring in the mediocrity accepting fans and downvote away instead of acknowledging reality. That'll work. Im sure Brooks will do the job next year, or the year after, or the year after.

What’s Moses ever done?

Nothing much, just was the half back of a team that made the finals. Infinitely more credible as a player than Luke 'head like a funko pop doll, never lead a team to the finals in 7 seasons, always next year, meh potential, the next Andrew Johns" Brooks.

So being the halfback of the year in a dud team has no credibility??? Considering the field contained pearce, cherry evans, reynolds, johnson, cronk and thurston......

You answered your own question on the credibility of Dally M half of the year when you mentioned all the ones he beat (and you missed a few)

so you're saying effectively the award means nothing?

Like the Nobel Peace Prize. Its meaningless.

Unless you win it.....then it has meaning.....

I doubt all the halfbacks that have won it think of it as meaningless

Yeah, they probably have massive egos that think they should have won it. ITs their birth right. Meanwhile, putting in an effort to win a few games of footy and go into the finals would be nice for your supporters on a decade drought.

Yeah you're right....I guess Brooks has never put in any effort and people voting him as the best in a meaningless vote vindicates that....

But then again it's his birthright...**.2018 was just his turn.....**

Exactly. Is sure wasnt for his footy.

You're saying Brooks was no good when he won his award?

Im saying Brooks has played literally 5 good games in a 145 game career. Putrid player that wouldnt get a start as a half back in Muswellbrook Group 21. Thats how much i think of him. The only evidence i can produce is his appalling percentage of win/loss ratio and finals played.

= garbage.

Well doesn't say much about your ethics when you support a "Tanker"

Undermines every supposedly credible word you tried to put forward on his behalf.

Let alone that he chokes at the drop of a hat. - he is nothing more than a pathetic little sook.

Doesnt say much about your support of the club when you support a proven loser. Try not to wish the club nothing but mediocrity and try to support a wining culture. Dont suffer from schadenfreude. You can do better.

Does playing finals make Moses a winner...

His team has bombed out every time in straight sets..not sure that describes a winning culture

Id take a 50% + wins in a season and finals games over the failure that "Brooks'Team" dishes out every season for the last 7 times.

Im sure all those other 15 teams that can actually make a final in a decade, if they had to choose, they sure would describe Parra as a winning team when the alterative is the Tigers.

Your argument appears to rest solely on the idea of wins and finals appearances, that Moses is better than Brooks because his team plays finals sometimes. Doesn't seem to matter how they perform in the finals.

If you put Luke Brooks in Storm colours 2021 does he finally play finals? And is that down to him or down to the club?

The legitimate problem Parramatta has is they've had terrible terrible results for many seasons, and after finally starting to build a team that can compete, have crashed out miserably several seasons in a row.

Now as a Tigers fan we'd all probably be happy just to have the chance to crash out of the finals several times in a row. But for Eels fans, that result doesn't cut it after one or two campaigns. I'm honestly not sure which is worse - making the finals a la Eels or Sharks and making no dent whatsoever, or not even being there in the first place. Certainly less stress with outcome #2 and questionable additional bragging rights outcome #1.

He's a winner..who loses a lot..
 
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The fact that Brooks is complete and utter 3rd rate garbage that will never take the Tigers to the finals, id say Moses is better. Much better.

Bring in the mediocrity accepting fans and downvote away instead of acknowledging reality. That'll work. Im sure Brooks will do the job next year, or the year after, or the year after.

What’s Moses ever done?

Nothing much, just was the half back of a team that made the finals. Infinitely more credible as a player than Luke 'head like a funko pop doll, never lead a team to the finals in 7 seasons, always next year, meh potential, the next Andrew Johns" Brooks.

So being the halfback of the year in a dud team has no credibility??? Considering the field contained pearce, cherry evans, reynolds, johnson, cronk and thurston......

You answered your own question on the credibility of Dally M half of the year when you mentioned all the ones he beat (and you missed a few)

so you're saying effectively the award means nothing?

Like the Nobel Peace Prize. Its meaningless.

Unless you win it.....then it has meaning.....

I doubt all the halfbacks that have won it think of it as meaningless

Yeah, they probably have massive egos that think they should have won it. ITs their birth right. Meanwhile, putting in an effort to win a few games of footy and go into the finals would be nice for your supporters on a decade drought.

Yeah you're right....I guess Brooks has never put in any effort and people voting him as the best in a meaningless vote vindicates that....

But then again it's his birthright...**.2018 was just his turn.....**

Exactly. Is sure wasnt for his footy.

You're saying Brooks was no good when he won his award?

Im saying Brooks has played literally 5 good games in a 145 game career. Putrid player that wouldnt get a start as a half back in Muswellbrook Group 21. Thats how much i think of him. The only evidence i can produce is his appalling percentage of win/loss ratio and finals played.

= garbage.

Well doesn't say much about your ethics when you support a "Tanker"

Undermines every supposedly credible word you tried to put forward on his behalf.

Let alone that he chokes at the drop of a hat. - he is nothing more than a pathetic little sook.

Doesnt say much about your support of the club when you support a proven loser. Try not to wish the club nothing but mediocrity and try to support a wining culture. Dont suffer from schadenfreude. You can do better.

Yes, whatever you say Mate.
 
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The fact that Brooks is complete and utter 3rd rate garbage that will never take the Tigers to the finals, id say Moses is better. Much better.

Bring in the mediocrity accepting fans and downvote away instead of acknowledging reality. That'll work. Im sure Brooks will do the job next year, or the year after, or the year after.

What’s Moses ever done?

Nothing much, just was the half back of a team that made the finals. Infinitely more credible as a player than Luke 'head like a funko pop doll, never lead a team to the finals in 7 seasons, always next year, meh potential, the next Andrew Johns" Brooks.

So being the halfback of the year in a dud team has no credibility??? Considering the field contained pearce, cherry evans, reynolds, johnson, cronk and thurston......

You answered your own question on the credibility of Dally M half of the year when you mentioned all the ones he beat (and you missed a few)

so you're saying effectively the award means nothing?

Like the Nobel Peace Prize. Its meaningless.

Unless you win it.....then it has meaning.....

I doubt all the halfbacks that have won it think of it as meaningless

Yeah, they probably have massive egos that think they should have won it. ITs their birth right. Meanwhile, putting in an effort to win a few games of footy and go into the finals would be nice for your supporters on a decade drought.

Yeah you're right....I guess Brooks has never put in any effort and people voting him as the best in a meaningless vote vindicates that....

But then again it's his birthright...**.2018 was just his turn.....**

Exactly. Is sure wasnt for his footy.

You're saying Brooks was no good when he won his award?

Im saying Brooks has played literally 5 good games in a 145 game career. Putrid player that wouldnt get a start as a half back in Muswellbrook Group 21. Thats how much i think of him. The only evidence i can produce is his appalling percentage of win/loss ratio and finals played.

= garbage.

Well doesn't say much about your ethics when you support a "Tanker"

Undermines every supposedly credible word you tried to put forward on his behalf.

Let alone that he chokes at the drop of a hat. - he is nothing more than a pathetic little sook.

Doesnt say much about your support of the club when you support a proven loser. Try not to wish the club nothing but mediocrity and try to support a wining culture. Dont suffer from schadenfreude. You can do better.

Does playing finals make Moses a winner...

His team has bombed out every time in straight sets..not sure that describes a winning culture

Id take a 50% + wins in a season and finals games over the failure that "Brooks'Team" dishes out every season for the last 7 times.

Im sure all those other 15 teams that can actually make a final in a decade, if they had to choose, they sure would describe Parra as a winning team when the alterative is the Tigers.

Maybe you should support "The Tanker" and his Slimy club if you love him so much.
 
@Russell said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247407) said:
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247365) said:
@Geo said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247348) said:
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247344) said:
@Russell said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247311) said:
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247224) said:
@OzLuke said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247223) said:
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247221) said:
@OzLuke said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247220) said:
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247216) said:
@OzLuke said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247214) said:
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247213) said:
@OzLuke said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247180) said:
@cktiger said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247177) said:
@OzLuke said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247175) said:
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247172) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247149) said:
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247137) said:
The fact that Brooks is complete and utter 3rd rate garbage that will never take the Tigers to the finals, id say Moses is better. Much better.

Bring in the mediocrity accepting fans and downvote away instead of acknowledging reality. That'll work. Im sure Brooks will do the job next year, or the year after, or the year after.

What’s Moses ever done?

Nothing much, just was the half back of a team that made the finals. Infinitely more credible as a player than Luke 'head like a funko pop doll, never lead a team to the finals in 7 seasons, always next year, meh potential, the next Andrew Johns" Brooks.

So being the halfback of the year in a dud team has no credibility??? Considering the field contained pearce, cherry evans, reynolds, johnson, cronk and thurston......

You answered your own question on the credibility of Dally M half of the year when you mentioned all the ones he beat (and you missed a few)

so you're saying effectively the award means nothing?

Like the Nobel Peace Prize. Its meaningless.

Unless you win it.....then it has meaning.....

I doubt all the halfbacks that have won it think of it as meaningless

Yeah, they probably have massive egos that think they should have won it. ITs their birth right. Meanwhile, putting in an effort to win a few games of footy and go into the finals would be nice for your supporters on a decade drought.

Yeah you're right....I guess Brooks has never put in any effort and people voting him as the best in a meaningless vote vindicates that....

But then again it's his birthright...**.2018 was just his turn.....**

Exactly. Is sure wasnt for his footy.

You're saying Brooks was no good when he won his award?

Im saying Brooks has played literally 5 good games in a 145 game career. Putrid player that wouldnt get a start as a half back in Muswellbrook Group 21. Thats how much i think of him. The only evidence i can produce is his appalling percentage of win/loss ratio and finals played.

= garbage.

Well doesn't say much about your ethics when you support a "Tanker"

Undermines every supposedly credible word you tried to put forward on his behalf.

Let alone that he chokes at the drop of a hat. - he is nothing more than a pathetic little sook.

Doesnt say much about your support of the club when you support a proven loser. Try not to wish the club nothing but mediocrity and try to support a wining culture. Dont suffer from schadenfreude. You can do better.

Does playing finals make Moses a winner...

His team has bombed out every time in straight sets..not sure that describes a winning culture

Id take a 50% + wins in a season and finals games over the failure that "Brooks'Team" dishes out every season for the last 7 times.

Im sure all those other 15 teams that can actually make a final in a decade, if they had to choose, they sure would describe Parra as a winning team when the alterative is the Tigers.

Maybe you should support "The Tanker" and his Slimy club if you love him so much.

How you have on turned on you former favourite son Russell.
 
@cktiger said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247415) said:
@Russell said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247407) said:
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247365) said:
@Geo said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247348) said:
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247344) said:
@Russell said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247311) said:
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247224) said:
@OzLuke said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247223) said:
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247221) said:
@OzLuke said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247220) said:
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247216) said:
@OzLuke said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247214) said:
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247213) said:
@OzLuke said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247180) said:
@cktiger said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247177) said:
@OzLuke said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247175) said:
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247172) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247149) said:
@The_Return said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247137) said:
The fact that Brooks is complete and utter 3rd rate garbage that will never take the Tigers to the finals, id say Moses is better. Much better.

Bring in the mediocrity accepting fans and downvote away instead of acknowledging reality. That'll work. Im sure Brooks will do the job next year, or the year after, or the year after.

What’s Moses ever done?

Nothing much, just was the half back of a team that made the finals. Infinitely more credible as a player than Luke 'head like a funko pop doll, never lead a team to the finals in 7 seasons, always next year, meh potential, the next Andrew Johns" Brooks.

So being the halfback of the year in a dud team has no credibility??? Considering the field contained pearce, cherry evans, reynolds, johnson, cronk and thurston......

You answered your own question on the credibility of Dally M half of the year when you mentioned all the ones he beat (and you missed a few)

so you're saying effectively the award means nothing?

Like the Nobel Peace Prize. Its meaningless.

Unless you win it.....then it has meaning.....

I doubt all the halfbacks that have won it think of it as meaningless

Yeah, they probably have massive egos that think they should have won it. ITs their birth right. Meanwhile, putting in an effort to win a few games of footy and go into the finals would be nice for your supporters on a decade drought.

Yeah you're right....I guess Brooks has never put in any effort and people voting him as the best in a meaningless vote vindicates that....

But then again it's his birthright...**.2018 was just his turn.....**

Exactly. Is sure wasnt for his footy.

You're saying Brooks was no good when he won his award?

Im saying Brooks has played literally 5 good games in a 145 game career. Putrid player that wouldnt get a start as a half back in Muswellbrook Group 21. Thats how much i think of him. The only evidence i can produce is his appalling percentage of win/loss ratio and finals played.

= garbage.

Well doesn't say much about your ethics when you support a "Tanker"

Undermines every supposedly credible word you tried to put forward on his behalf.

Let alone that he chokes at the drop of a hat. - he is nothing more than a pathetic little sook.

Doesnt say much about your support of the club when you support a proven loser. Try not to wish the club nothing but mediocrity and try to support a wining culture. Dont suffer from schadenfreude. You can do better.

Does playing finals make Moses a winner...

His team has bombed out every time in straight sets..not sure that describes a winning culture

Id take a 50% + wins in a season and finals games over the failure that "Brooks'Team" dishes out every season for the last 7 times.

Im sure all those other 15 teams that can actually make a final in a decade, if they had to choose, they sure would describe Parra as a winning team when the alterative is the Tigers.

Maybe you should support "The Tanker" and his Slimy club if you love him so much.

How you have on turned on you former favourite son Russell.

He wasn't a Tanker then was he?
 
@Geo said in [Brooks vs Moses](/post/1247377) said:
He was last year crowned the Dally M Halfback of the Year after laying on 31 try assists and leading the Eels from a 2018 wooden spoon to fifth place on the ladder.

Yes, but based on that logic, he also led them to the wooden spoon in 2018.
 
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