Brooks

[hobbo]

I personally think Brooks needs more football. It seems to me that the more touches Brooks gets, the more he develops his game-feel. It is unfortunate that he isn't on the mark from the first minute, but that's the type of footballer he is.

5th tackle options are often taken by Benji and frankly Farah has taken some them of late as well. I do feel that Farah stifles Brooks a little and seems to pass preferentially to Benji which I can understand, but I think it makes us disjointed.

It's like Mbye - a fine footballer with a nice pass and footwork, but you need to give him good and early ball to display his skills.

It's a Catch-22 for me. I believe Farah has added another dimension to the team and it has helped us win matches - we were unacceptably deficient at hooker. But it has come at the expense of the fluidity in attack IMO. We obviously score enough tries to win matches, but they look like uglier wins to me - one great set for a try, then 5 dog sets to waste possession.

Pretty much it .
We have too many dumb players that struggle to play the discipline type of football that the coach wants them to play .

 

[Tim Sheens]

Like others have stated and without discounting that he brings something to the team, I have not changed my opinion on the effects Farah has. He continues to stifle Brooks and it is amplified when Benji is also about.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Has trouble reading a game and making decisions based on that.
His kick that went dead in goal late in the game today to give Manly a 7 tackle set is a perfect example.

6 inches the other way it would have been lauded as good game management. It's not like he hoofed it to Appin. That happens in footy.

He had a ordinary game last night, but it wasn't through lack of trying. And he had plenty of mates.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

He’s one of the best ball running halves in the game.

 

[cktiger]

He’s one of the best ball running halves in the game.

I agree.
Unfortunately we need more than that from him in this team.

 

[jctiger]

I personally think Brooks needs more football. It seems to me that the more touches Brooks gets, the more he develops his game-feel. It is unfortunate that he isn't on the mark from the first minute, but that's the type of footballer he is.

5th tackle options are often taken by Benji and frankly Farah has taken some them of late as well. I do feel that Farah stifles Brooks a little and seems to pass preferentially to Benji which I can understand, but I think it makes us disjointed.

It's like Mbye - a fine footballer with a nice pass and footwork, but you need to give him good and early ball to display his skills.

It's a Catch-22 for me. I believe Farah has added another dimension to the team and it has helped us win matches - we were unacceptably deficient at hooker. But it has come at the expense of the fluidity in attack IMO. We obviously score enough tries to win matches, but they look like uglier wins to me - one great set for a try, then 5 dog sets to waste possession.

Pretty much it .
We have too many dumb players that struggle to play the discipline type of football that the coach wants them to play .

That’s right.
They have to be dumb, that’s the only explanation. How many time in the post match interview do we hear Clearly say we didn’t stick to the game plan. Even after last nights game, Lawrence said if we stuck to our game plane the result will come of the back of it. It’s a simple game plan, just keep the ball in play and get to our kick.
So why can’t we stick to our game plan if it’s so simple and if we aren’t sticking to it wasn’t that what Benji and Farah were bought back for, the calm heads and so on.
So frustrating, week in week out the same thing.

 

[bigsiro]

I personally think Brooks needs more football.

You lost me right there.

 

[Russell]

Like others have stated and without discounting that he brings something to the team, I have not changed my opinion on the effects Farah has. He continues to stifle Brooks and it is amplified when Benji is also about.

Never a truer word spoken.

 

[hobbo]

I personally think Brooks needs more football. It seems to me that the more touches Brooks gets, the more he develops his game-feel. It is unfortunate that he isn't on the mark from the first minute, but that's the type of footballer he is.

5th tackle options are often taken by Benji and frankly Farah has taken some them of late as well. I do feel that Farah stifles Brooks a little and seems to pass preferentially to Benji which I can understand, but I think it makes us disjointed.

It's like Mbye - a fine footballer with a nice pass and footwork, but you need to give him good and early ball to display his skills.

It's a Catch-22 for me. I believe Farah has added another dimension to the team and it has helped us win matches - we were unacceptably deficient at hooker. But it has come at the expense of the fluidity in attack IMO. We obviously score enough tries to win matches, but they look like uglier wins to me - one great set for a try, then 5 dog sets to waste possession.

Pretty much it .
We have too many dumb players that struggle to play the discipline type of football that the coach wants them to play .

That’s right.
They have to be dumb, that’s the only explanation. How many time in the post match interview do we hear Clearly say we didn’t stick to the game plan. Even after last nights game, Lawrence said if we stuck to our game plane the result will come of the back of it. It’s a simple game plan, just keep the ball in play and get to our kick.
So why can’t we stick to our game plan if it’s so simple and if we aren’t sticking to it wasn’t that what Benji and Farah were bought back for, the calm heads and so on.
So frustrating, week in week out the same thing.

Unfortunately both Farah and Marshall have fallen into bad habits again ..
Then there’s Kev , Fonua and Chee Kam who aren't the brightest bulbs on the Xmas tree .

 

[Spartan117]

He kept trying all night and if he was at a different club he would be a real star.

The Tigers of 2018 are improved but still have a long way to go.

Defense is awesome.

I like this guy heaps.

 

[jirskyr]

Has trouble reading a game and making decisions based on that.
His kick that went dead in goal late in the game today to give Manly a 7 tackle set is a perfect example.

6 inches the other way it would have been lauded as good game management. It's not like he hoofed it to Appin. That happens in footy.

I don't agree - he went for too much. Why kick it 6 inches dead when you can put it into touch 10m short of the try line for the desired result? Lack of execution on the critical plays has often been a Tigers weakness - giving Soward the FG in 2010, kick on full and bomb defusal vs Warriors 2011, failing to dive on the scrum footy vs Roosters 2010 etc.

Look at the end of the match - Liddle took the final 5th tackle for a dart and intentionally gave the ball back to Manly 5m out from their line. DCE took a penalty kick from 45 m out and 30m across. If that was a 7-tackle set, or if Liddle had been tackled 10m out we would have been looking at extra time. He didn't overplay his hand or go for too much. Now Liddle is no benchmark of consistency, but you are better off going for a fair bit less than a little too much.

 

[JD Tiger]

Has trouble reading a game and making decisions based on that.
His kick that went dead in goal late in the game today to give Manly a 7 tackle set is a perfect example.

6 inches the other way it would have been lauded as good game management. It's not like he hoofed it to Appin. That happens in footy.

I don't agree - he went for too much. Why kick it 6 inches dead when you can put it into touch 10m short of the try line for the desired result? Lack of execution on the critical plays has often been a Tigers weakness - giving Soward the FG in 2010, kick on full and bomb defusal vs Warriors 2011, failing to dive on the scrum footy vs Roosters 2010 etc.

Look at the end of the match - Liddle took the final 5th tackle for a dart and intentionally gave the ball back to Manly 5m out from their line. DCE took a penalty kick from 45 m out and 30m across. If that was a 7-tackle set, or if Liddle had been tackled 10m out we would have been looking at extra time. He didn't overplay his hand or go for too much. Now Liddle is no benchmark of consistency, **but you are better off going for a fair bit less than a little too much**.

Well said Jirskyr. We need another half who can manage the game, so Brooksy can do his thing it at 5/8 and all will be well. Hey Ivan, do you know anyone? (And can you solve the 'what do we then do with Reynolds' dilemma?)

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Has trouble reading a game and making decisions based on that.
His kick that went dead in goal late in the game today to give Manly a 7 tackle set is a perfect example.

6 inches the other way it would have been lauded as good game management. It's not like he hoofed it to Appin. That happens in footy.

I don't agree - he went for too much. Why kick it 6 inches dead when you can put it into touch 10m short of the try line for the desired result? Lack of execution on the critical plays has often been a Tigers weakness - giving Soward the FG in 2010, kick on full and bomb defusal vs Warriors 2011, failing to dive on the scrum footy vs Roosters 2010 etc.

Look at the end of the match - Liddle took the final 5th tackle for a dart and intentionally gave the ball back to Manly 5m out from their line. DCE took a penalty kick from 45 m out and 30m across. If that was a 7-tackle set, or if Liddle had been tackled 10m out we would have been looking at extra time. He didn't overplay his hand or go for too much. Now Liddle is no benchmark of consistency, but you are better off going for a fair bit less than a little too much.

Yeah fair call. He didn't smash it over the dead ball line though like some are making out ala Pita Godinet.

 

[jirskyr]

Yeah fair call. He didn't smash it over the dead ball line though like some are making out ala Pita Godinet.

Remember Mick Beuttner at LO many years ago? Best over-kick I've ever seen.

 

[Roar_Power]

He’s one of the best ball running halves in the game.

I agree.
Unfortunately we need more than that from him in this team.

No, he needs more from his team mates. He has done an exemplary job this season overall.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Yeah fair call. He didn't smash it over the dead ball line though like some are making out ala Pita Godinet.

Remember Mick Beuttner at LO many years ago? Best over-kick I've ever seen.

Was Buettner the one who pretty much shanked a line drop out back over his own head?

 

[jirskyr]

Yeah fair call. He didn't smash it over the dead ball line though like some are making out ala Pita Godinet.

Remember Mick Beuttner at LO many years ago? Best over-kick I've ever seen.

Was Buettner the one who pretty much shanked a line drop out back over his own head?

I don't recall that one, but in one instance we put in a short kick and Beuttner beat the defence to it, tried to toe it ahead and struck it like Paul Scholes, ended up about 12 rows deep in the Keith Barnes stand on the full.

 

[Needaname]

He gets overridden by other personalities in the team still way too often.

Start of the year was awesome as he really took control. Towards the end of the season has gone missing more and more, but isn't always his fault.

Even Brandy Alexander made mention of him screaming for the ball a couple of times last night, and being ignored.

Which game was it recently where Marshall went off injured and Brooks had to close the game out?
Thought that was a good example of how he can play when there isn’t too many chiefs around.

 

[greatodensraven]

He gets overridden by other personalities in the team still way too often.

Start of the year was awesome as he really took control. Towards the end of the season has gone missing more and more, but isn't always his fault.

Even Brandy Alexander made mention of him screaming for the ball a couple of times last night, and being ignored.

Which game was it recently where Marshall went off injured and Brooks had to close the game out?
Thought that was a good example of how he can play when there isn’t too many chiefs around.

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[earl]

I personally think Brooks needs more football. It seems to me that the more touches Brooks gets, the more he develops his game-feel. It is unfortunate that he isn't on the mark from the first minute, but that's the type of footballer he is.

5th tackle options are often taken by Benji and frankly Farah has taken some them of late as well. I do feel that Farah stifles Brooks a little and seems to pass preferentially to Benji which I can understand, but I think it makes us disjointed.

It's like Mbye - a fine footballer with a nice pass and footwork, but you need to give him good and early ball to display his skills.

It's a Catch-22 for me. I believe Farah has added another dimension to the team and it has helped us win matches - we were unacceptably deficient at hooker. But it has come at the expense of the fluidity in attack IMO. We obviously score enough tries to win matches, but they look like uglier wins to me - one great set for a try, then 5 dog sets to waste possession.

Pretty much it .
We have too many dumb players that struggle to play the discipline type of football that the coach wants them to play .

That’s right.
They have to be dumb, that’s the only explanation. How many time in the post match interview do we hear Clearly say we didn’t stick to the game plan. Even after last nights game, Lawrence said if we stuck to our game plane the result will come of the back of it. It’s a simple game plan, just keep the ball in play and get to our kick.
So why can’t we stick to our game plan if it’s so simple and if we aren’t sticking to it wasn’t that what Benji and Farah were bought back for, the calm heads and so on.
So frustrating, week in week out the same thing.

Unfortunately both Farah and Marshall have fallen into bad habits again ..
Then there’s Kev , Fonua and Chee Kam who aren't the brightest bulbs on the Xmas tree .

A couple of spot on comments here.